What do you think about the Early Morning Magic Fantasyland ?

[beesly]

Isn't the EMM hour beginning at 7:00? There are no pre-park opening reservations that early, so people with the EMM tickets will, indeed, get into the park with an almost empty Main Street. People with BOG and CP pre-open ADR's won't be in the park until almost an hour later, and I suspect by that point that EMM people will be well on their way to their 8th or so go around on 7DMT.

EMM begins at 7:45. They'd be entering the park at the same time as anyone else with a PPO ADR between 8-8:30.

 

[Lothlórien]

Hmmmm. . . Good point! Disney is masterful at the "lock you in" concept. . . MDE to get you onsite with no car; ticket pricing structure to make adding a WDW day financially more appealing than going to Uni for a day; FP+ to mentally lock you in to your plans. . . Adding at this time, at this price may cause a lot of huffing and eye rolling, ending with "well, I'll go ahead and add it so it doesn't mess up my other plans!

BINGO!!!!

 

[maryj11]

To be honest, this will be a good thing for 95% of the Magic Kingdom attendees. This will not hurt your trip but help. The only people this hurts are those seduced by the fantasy of riding 7DMT multiple times in a row over and over with no wait.

1) The reason it sold out so fast was the capacity being that small. This is not even in the same ballpark as driving attendance like EMH drive attendance. I would bet ticket capacity was reverse engineered from Pinocchio. First they determined the number that they could serve in 1 hour, then they determined how many rides they needed to open along with 7DMT and Peter Pan. This is 1000 people or less who already had tickets to Magic Kingdom. This is not even close to EMH impact. I would not plan your day around this event.

2) This is only going to help pull down most wait times for 7DMT and Peter Pan. Do you really think that anyone who would pay for this event was not already a certainty to ride these rides anyway? Opening the ride an hour early = more people get to ride these popular rides per day (bonus capacity if you will). If you don't want to pay these prices, no worries. There are now 750-1000 people who no longer need to ride this ride. I doubt they used fast passes for them, nor will they do these rides at "rope drop." This won't hurt you. The park hours are not any different then what they were before, this is just extra time.

3) The only people this hurts minimally are those who booked a BOG breakfast for the sole purpose of getting a no wait ride at Peter Pan or 7DMT. Now you will have a short wait (but still ahead of all of the rope droppers). You still will be in good shape. If I had a BOG reservation but not tickets to the event, I would certainly not dump it as for the most part your benefit of beating rope droppers is in tact.

This event in among itself is actually a positive. The fear is the slippery slope this is treading on and the future application of this logic. For example, do they get rid of EMH? Does this discourage Disney from opening Norway early? Will they find additional hard ticket events to get more money per visitor? Will this be a way to limit attendance to Avatar? Star Wars? or Toy Story land?

People just need to relax and not let this minor change cause them to tear their plans up. If you had a good plan before, the plan is still good.

This makes me feel much better about planning our MK days on the event day without buying an event ticket. We have both our MK days planned on Saturday and Tuesday. I was thinking about switching days but I think we will just stick with them and see how things go the end of April and May for it. Who knows it may make crowds less because people may want to avoid that park like a EMH day.

 

[counselormom]

I'm one of the ones that posted yesterday that I called and was told it was sold out. I really think it was
a glitch, the CM had no idea what I was talking about and had to go get a supervisor. Then it was sold out for everyday the day after they hit the website, I just don't think that happened. After much thought I went ahead and booked it when the days opened up yesterday evening. It's just my DD (age 11) and I for this trip. It's her second trip, she was too young to remember her first. It will also probably be our last, we have been really enjoying our Universal trips as our kids become older and the ease of planning and the
Front of the Line passes when staying onsite. I just finally decided it was worth it to me to not have the stress and booked the EMM for one of our days in June. It does annoy me though that I gave in and I do think Disney will be adding more of these events.
But for some insight into how it will affect the day for others I will say that after booking I:
Canceled my 8:00 ADR for BOG and changed my fastpasses from SDMT and Peter Pan to other rides outside Fantasyland.
When 9:00 hits we will ride other Fantasyland rides, go to the breakfast at 9:30 or so and then it will be time for our fastpasses.
So I don't really think it will have a huge impact for all the RD people, at least for those two rides. I've kept my 8:20 BOG ADR for
the other day in our week so it will be interesting to see how that compares to our EMM day.

 

[maryj11]

I'm one of the ones that posted yesterday that I called and was told it was sold out. I really think it was
a glitch, the CM had no idea what I was talking about and had to go get a supervisor. Then it was sold out for everyday the day after they hit the website, I just don't think that happened. After much thought I went ahead and booked it when the days opened up yesterday evening. It's just my DD (age 11) and I for this trip. It's her second trip, she was too young to remember her first. It will also probably be our last, we have been really enjoying our Universal trips as our kids become older and the ease of planning and the
Front of the Line passes when staying onsite. I just finally decided it was worth it to me to not have the stress and booked the EMM for one of our days in June. It does annoy me though that I gave in and I do think Disney will be adding more of these events.
But for some insight into how it will affect the day for others I will say that after booking I:
Canceled my 8:00 ADR for BOG and changed my fastpasses from SDMT and Peter Pan to other rides outside Fantasyland.
When 9:00 hits we will ride other Fantasyland rides, go to the breakfast at 9:30 or so and then it will be time for our fastpasses.
So I don't really think it will have a huge impact for all the RD people, at least for those two rides. I've kept my 8:20 BOG ADR for
the other day in our week so it will be interesting to see how that compares to our EMM day.

I just checked and there are reservations available for both our Magic Kingdom days. Last night there was only availability for 1 day. The only thing I dont think we would like is having to get up so early. If we were to arrive by 7:30 we would probably have to get to the bus stop by 6:30.

 

[ginny65]

I thought the EMM hour begins at 7:45 a.m. but I'm sure someone will correct me if I am mistaken.

 

[SaintsManiac]

I'm one of the ones that posted yesterday that I called and was told it was sold out. I really think it was
a glitch, the CM had no idea what I was talking about and had to go get a supervisor. Then it was sold out for everyday the day after they hit the website, I just don't think that happened. After much thought I went ahead and booked it when the days opened up yesterday evening. It's just my DD (age 11) and I for this trip. It's her second trip, she was too young to remember her first. It will also probably be our last, we have been really enjoying our Universal trips as our kids become older and the ease of planning and the
Front of the Line passes when staying onsite. I just finally decided it was worth it to me to not have the stress and booked the EMM for one of our days in June. It does annoy me though that I gave in and I do think Disney will be adding more of these events.
But for some insight into how it will affect the day for others I will say that after booking I:
Canceled my 8:00 ADR for BOG and changed my fastpasses from SDMT and Peter Pan to other rides outside Fantasyland.
When 9:00 hits we will ride other Fantasyland rides, go to the breakfast at 9:30 or so and then it will be time for our fastpasses.
So I don't really think it will have a huge impact for all the RD people, at least for those two rides. I've kept my 8:20 BOG ADR for
the other day in our week so it will be interesting to see how that compares to our EMM day.

Would you be willing to come back and share the experience? I'm so curious about it. Not going back until next year, so I have to live vicariously through everyone else

 

[mshanson3121]

EMM begins at 7:45. They'd be entering the park at the same time as anyone else with a PPO ADR between 8-8:30.

Except those people won't be allowed to go on rides. Normally they'll open some rides for dining guests around 8:45. So, the people paying for this event get a full extra hour. Plus, the event runs until 10:00, so they are can ride first, then go for their breakfast is my understanding. Needless to say, will be pretty easy to get repeat rides on PP and 7D, between 7:45 - 9:00+.

 

[maryj11]

I thought the EMM hour begins at 7:45 a.m. but I'm sure someone will correct me if I am mistaken.

Yes it starts at 7:45 but check in starts at 7:30.

 

[ginny65]

So if all the EMM people are pouring in at 7:30, when will they allow the ADR people to come into the park, and will it be the same check-in point outside the gate? Our ADR is 8:10 a.m.

 

[Maliboo]

Except those people won't be allowed to go on rides. Normally they'll open some rides for dining guests around 8:45. So, the people paying for this event get a full extra hour. Plus, the event runs until 10:00, so they are can ride first, then go for their breakfast is my understanding. Needless to say, will be pretty easy to get repeat rides on PP and 7D, between 7:45 - 9:00+.

The number of repeat rides all depends on how many people they allow to buy tickets. It isn't going to be ride, walk around, ride, walk around, ride, walk around, ride, etc.

 

[WEDWDW]

Isn't the EMM hour beginning at 7:00?

7:45 am-the same time early ADRs are allowed in.

 

[lvdis]

So if all the EMM people are pouring in at 7:30, when will they allow the ADR people to come into the park, and will it be the same check-in point outside the gate? Our ADR is 8:10 a.m.

I'd like to know this too.

We have an ADR at CP on 4/30 at 8:20am. For some reason when the magic mornings were first being talked about I didn't they they affected us. I didn't realize until this morning that 4/30 was one of the days being offered. I'm not changing my plans, but I wonder how it might impact entering the park that morning. I was hoping to enter before 8, maybe by 7:50 or so.

 

[beesly]

Except those people won't be allowed to go on rides. Normally they'll open some rides for dining guests around 8:45. So, the people paying for this event get a full extra hour. Plus, the event runs until 10:00, so they are can ride first, then go for their breakfast is my understanding. Needless to say, will be pretty easy to get repeat rides on PP and 7D, between 7:45 - 9:00+.

Right, but the person I quoted and responded to was saying that EMM folks would get to enter onto an empty Main Street, which they won't.

 

[counselormom]

I just checked and there are reservations available for both our Magic Kingdom days. Last night there was only availability for 1 day. The only thing I dont think we would like is having to get up so early. If we were to arrive by 7:30 we would probably have to get to the bus stop by 6:30.

That is going to be an early morning, we are coming from AKL so I'm thinking 6:30 too. Are you going to book the EMM?

 

[counselormom]

Would you be willing to come back and share the experience? I'm so curious about it. Not going back until next year, so I have to live vicariously through everyone else

I would be happy too. I'm hoping that someone who will be going to it in April will report back.

 

[Mintycake]

Okay silly question but how hard is it to get FP+ for these rides? My trip isn't coming up until December but I've been playing around with the Disney App (which lets you practice FP+ 30 days out from current date) and I can almost always get 7DMT, PP and Pooh if I want them. How long do you wait in a FP+ line? I'm just not sure what all the hype is about this. My plan was to FP+ these rides and then get to the park for RD to get do other things like Haunted Mansion, Princess Fairytale hall, etc. I haven't been to Disney since before FP existed so excuse me if this sounds silly.

 

[ginny65]

I am SO glad we chose 7DMT as a FP+ for that morning instead of thinking we could stand in a regular line!!! I can't even imagine how long that line is going to be that morning.

 

[maryj11]

That is going to be an early morning, we are coming from AKL so I'm thinking 6:30 too. Are you going to book the EMM?

No I was just thinking about it. I dont think we will but we are still going to the park those days Hope it works out.

 

[BudgieMama]

Okay silly question but how hard is it to get FP+ for these rides? My trip isn't coming up until December but I've been playing around with the Disney App (which lets you practice FP+ 30 days out from current date) and I can almost always get 7DMT, PP and Pooh if I want them. How long do you wait in a FP+ line? I'm just not sure what all the hype is about this. My plan was to FP+ these rides and then get to the park for RD to get do other things like Haunted Mansion, Princess Fairytale hall, etc. I haven't been to Disney since before FP existed so excuse me if this sounds silly.

FP+ will only give you one entry to that ride though, and I guess the value for some people is being able to re-ride (hopefully) multiple times. At busy times of the year, when it's harder to get a FP+, if you or your child LOVED one of the rides, getting those multiple rides might be worth the money.