What do you do about a barking dog?

[Tab2Disney]

I am purchasing mine next week for our upcoming trip to FW.

I love dogs too(I have 3 of my own) and they STAY AT HOME when we vacation, so I don't care anything about hearing other people's dogs bark day and night. From the two trips to FW this past year, I can see that Disney cares less and less about this fact and especially since they are going to make the whole campground pet friendly. There were dogs in every loop and they don't really have pet rules that they enforce anymore.

I hope it works so that I can enforce the rules myself!

Really? I didn't realize that they were going to make the whole campground pet friendly. That surprises me, it seems like they would continue to keep some areas seperate for those people that don't travel with pets. It doesn't have to be marked that way it can be according to whatever is needed.
We haven't ever traveled with ours there are just to many of them. Maybe, one day the lil dog will get to go. Just probably not to Disney. I couldn't ride the bus to DTD with him

 

[Shan-man]

With all due respect to the Flame, this is rumor, and is substantiated only by the fact that FW has in the past placed pet owners in non-pet loops (as is their purview), especially during the loop renovations. Of course, a lot of campers never even announce that they need a pet loop (how are they to know, CRO doesn't ask if you are traveling with pets!) and are placed in non-pet loops. I suspect that once the renovations are done, there will at least be the attempt to enforce loop designations. If nothing else, the investment in "No Pets Beyond this Point" signs would seem to suggest this.

 

[TheFlame]

Shan-man: I know that you are very well versed in all things Disney(and I love reading your opinions and advice ) , but I was told this to be fact by two different Disney cast members on our trips in Jan. 08 and Nov. 08 and I have been told this recently by phone when making a ressie. ( I hope they were all wrong! )

I am not at all happy about it , but it would make sense being that they do not enforce the rules they have and it is very obvious that more and more people are bringing their pets with them, whether they tell the front desk or not.

They told me that eventually after all of the renovations were done that this would go into effect...............now...............since that information came from several different cast members(that work for the Walt Disney Company) I would think it is on it's way to being somewhere near the planet next to the planet where all truth lies!



BTW- The other place we love to camp besides Disney is Myrtle Beach. None of the campgrounds in Myrtle Beach have a certain area that is designated for pets and they are TERRIBLE about enforcing the rules there! We have had more bad experiences than I can count because of rude and uncaring pet owners. They have basically the same rules as Disney except for the fact they don't have pet loops. It is very frustrating for those of us who leave our pet poop and barkers at home!

 

[Shan-man]

Well that is certainly interesting. I have been told recently by CRO that I will be in 300 next December since it will be the only preferred pet loop. If everything is going to be pet-friendly then I would be placed in 100-300. And when I questioned this directly she assured me this was according to the designations as they will exist after the renovations are done. So, I would say that there is, at the least, some conflicting information being disseminated. Flame, I am sorry I questioned your sources, I have just heard this rumor floated many times and never with any weight behind it. I'm sorry I doubted you.

 

[TheFlame]

Well that is certainly interesting. I have been told recently by CRO that I will be in 300 next December since it will be the only preferred pet loop. If everything is going to be pet-friendly then I would be placed in 100-300. And when I questioned this directly she assured me this was according to the designations as they will exist after the renovations are done. So, I would say that there is, at the least, some conflicting information being disseminated. Flame, I am sorry I questioned your sources, I have just heard this rumor floated many times and never with any weight behind it. I'm sorry I doubted you.

Shan! Don't apologize! It's not like this is the first time Disney has given out different answers to the same question!

Thank you for all of the help you give us on the Dis!

 

[pmm0724]

For those of you who think the whole fort should be pet friendly, I have finally got to add my 2 cents. We camp in a Class A with my grandson who is allergic to dogs and cats. Even though we requested a NON pet loop via fax, we were put in a pet loop (I assume accidently) last time we were there and had to make an emergency 911 call in the middle of the night as my grandson had a severe asthma attack. We hadn't asked to be moved as we were only there for the weekend and were already settled in the loop when we realized there were dogs all around us. We didn't think that just being in a pet loop would trigger his asthma, but apparently it was enough. Of course, next time we will know not to allow Disney to put us in a pet loop and will check it out before we "park".

 

[lisa8200]

For those of you who think the whole fort should be pet friendly, I have finally got to add my 2 cents. We camp in a Class A with my grandson who is allergic to dogs and cats. Even though we requested a NON pet loop via fax, we were put in a pet loop (I assume accidently) last time we were there and had to make an emergency 911 call in the middle of the night as my grandson had a severe asthma attack. We hadn't asked to be moved as we were only there for the weekend and were already settled in the loop when we realized there were dogs all around us. We didn't think that just being in a pet loop would trigger his asthma, but apparently it was enough. Of course, next time we will know not to allow Disney to put us in a pet loop and will check it out before we "park".

For this reason I would think that Disney would keep at least a minimal amount of space as designated non pet. The pet friendly areas may become the majority but, due to potential health reasons, you would think they would have an area for those that ask for a non pet loop( instead of the past where the request would be FOR pet ). Disney hates to lose a nickle if they can help it. I myself don't have a problem either way so I'll just wait and see....

 

[BradyBz12]

We are relatively new to camping (tent) and I would like to take our two big dogs with us (in general/ not FW yet).

Actually, if you're tent camping, you'll have to kennel your dogs. Current rules prohibit dogs in tents at FW.

That issue aside... in general I would recommend to anyone that wants to bring their dog camping for the first time and doesn't want to bother their neighbors, that you do some short trial runs first.

Even if your dogs don't bark at home, camping is going to be very different for them - different surroundings and stimulus, and being completely out of their normal routine/surroundings can make dogs react very differently than they normally would at home. This is especially true for dogs that may not spend a lot of time away from home - camping or otherwise. And dogs that are nervous or anxious are likely to do lots of things they normally wouldn't - including bark.

Our dogs are seasoned campers at this point, but when we first got our TT and knew our first FW trip was coming up, we did a bunch of weekend trips - even just going to visit friends and parking in their yard - just so they got used to the whole deal. They became more and more comfortable with the whole camper setup - where their beds/crates were, that you don't just rush out the door, that it's fine to be in the camper for a while alone, etc.

Our first couple of days at FW we made sure to spend extra time with them to help them sort out the new routine for the trip. They are both already used to being crated, so that was easy. We made sure they got plenty of exercise before we left them (a tired dog is a good, quiet dog!), and we gave them safe chew toys to occupy themselves while we were gone. We also made sure to leave the TV and air/fan on for white noise, as the less they can hear going on outside, the less likely they are to bark. We did a few short trial runs - went out for a while, snuck back, went out a little while longer... and talked with our neighbors to make sure they'd let us know if anyone was being disruptive. The final key is to know your dogs and know how long they can comfortably left alone. My dogs are super routine-oriented, and if we push their schedule too much, they get very out of sorts and are more likely to be agitated, bark, etc.

With some proper preparation and the ability to be flexible to make it work for your dogs, you can have some really lovely camping experiences together... and make friends with your neighbors too.

Both of my dogs are rescues.

They're very lucky to have found you!!

 

[tinkerbell34]

BradyBz12, I really value your advice! Thank you very much!

 

[BigDaddyRog]

Brady...you seem like a great trainer...I dont even have the patience to get my dogs house trained!! I wouldnt dream of bringing them on vacation with me, I might be too tempted to leave them there!!!

 

[BradyBz12]

Aw shucks...

Just loads of experience living with crazy Border Collies and doing rescue with this wacky breed for almost 9 years. Plus we don't have any kids, and our pups really do go practically everywhere with us, so we've gotten really good at the ins and outs of preparing them for travel so that we all have a good time.

That being said, I'm totally not opposed for the pups staying home so "mom and dad" can have a break. Hey, isn't that was "grandparents" are for?

 

[Cindy F]

......(a tired dog is a good, quiet dog.......

I agree! Brownie is exhausted by the time he gets off the sofa and walks upstairs...he usually has to take a nap after that

 

[BradyBz12]

I agree! Brownie is exhausted by the time he gets off the sofa and walks upstairs...he usually has to take a nap after that

Ah... I dream of that day...
My 2 aren't tired even after running full speed in deep snow for HOURS. And that includes the 7 year old!

DH brought our 2 year old to the FW dog park every day we were there and kicked her Jolly Ball for her for a looooong time. Sometimes almost an hour. He said he got loads of comments from people sitting on the benches with their dogs that they couldn't believe she just kept going and going and going...

That's a border collie for you!!