"We" didn't all share reagan's sunset, some people had a party.

[ghcoughlin]

Yes the party for George Bush was a fundraiser...for his Presidential Library.The proceeds are to benefit 3 organizations.One is for children's cancer center in Texas.It was recently named after their daughter Robin who died at age 3 from cancer.I can't remember the third organization off the top of my head.OOH those "evil Republicans" donating to a cause.And funding it without taxpayers $$$$.Every President raises funds for their library...even your beloved Clinton.This way the taxpayers don't flip the bill for the library.You make it sound as though it was for his son's campaign.The taxpayers DID NOT pay for this event.
No political figures were invited to the private ceremony.They were to be at "The State Funeral" only.I believe only Arnold and Margaret Thatcher were invited.

 

[always quiet]

I am not saying I think anyone's behavior at Pres. Reagan's service was disrespectful, nor am I voicing an opinion on whether Pres. Bush should of continued on with his plans to have a birthday celebration for himself. Personally, I feel everyone, including those who are voicing their opinions here, have to answer for themselves in front of a much higher authority than any found here on earth. No matter what anyone does in life, there is always going to be someone out there who disagrees with their actions. If all of us lived life just to please others, there would be a whole lot of unhappy people in this world.

 

[AirForceRocks]

Originally posted by Planogirl
Clinton wasn't asleep. The picture that is currently being used to slam the Clintons was apparently taken during a moment of prayer since the people behind them were also "asleep".

One time, perhaps. But there were at least three separate times when the camera was on President Clinton, one of which was during PM Mulroney's eulogy, and he appeared to be sleeping.

And as it has been pointed out, the Bush bash was a charity fundraiser.

 

[LScot]

I think it was fine that the Bush family did the party. If it had been a quiet family gathering then they may have cancelled it, who knows.

And kudos for GB for skydiving (again) at 80! How awesome is that?!

I didn't notice Clinton falling asleep. I thought they both looked uncomfortable being there but that may just be MO. I really don't care if he fell asleep or not. He didn't show respect when in the White House and I wouldn't expect him to now either.

 

[Galahad]

And kudos for GB for skydiving (again) at 80! How awesome is that?!

I Agree. But I can't help but think that President Bush's Orthopod was at least cringing a bit when the President landed on his hips (after all, they are probably out of warranty).

 

[Dan Murphy]

Originally posted by Truth
The moment ?
Did you read the link ?
The party on Friday was just the first of many
during a three day celebration.
His birthday was Saturday June 12, not Friday June 11

So had President Reagan been such a strong connection why not be there to see that final sunset and see him laid to rest ?

The small minor point is that Dan's post would be better titled " Some " rather than the more inclusive " We "

Taking nothing away from Dan,
just wanted to make sure that the record here reflected that while most of America
was involved in the splendor of that last beautiful sunset which was one of the very best parts of the weeks observance, some people who claimed to be so close to President Reagan had other priorities.

Not really sure how I got into this (if the 'Dan' referred to is me) If it is, I meant NOT to include you, Truth, nor anyone who did not want to be included. Being that I think maybe more of the country was involved in sharing the moment, than not, and not having the space in the subject line to exclude you and the others, took the more inclusive approach of using the common word, 'we', meaning, a nation, a people, not you, nor you, nor you, individually. Next time there is a national event, let me know if I should exclude you or not.

 

[dmadman43]

So had President Reagan been such a strong connection why not be there to see that final sunset and see him laid to rest ?

Uh...because is was a private ceremony and he wasn't invited? Just guessing.

 

[disykat]

I think it's perfectly reasonable to go on with a long planned event. RR's death had been long expected and appropriately mourned.

I have also laughed at funerals and closed my eyes or tried not to yawn by contorting my face at many a church service. I'm glad I didn't have cameras on me catching every expression.

I think the media and we the audience seem to be holding people to a very unrealistic standard of behavior - regardless of political associations.

 

[JohnsPrincess]

I think it was perfectly acceptable for the Bush's to go on with their party. After all...RR "left us" years ago do the Alzheimers (spelling??). This was not a sudden, unexpected, horrible thing. This was a very old, ill man finally being able to rest. I paid my respects in my own way, but still carried on with my life and my plans...I can't see that he would have wanted it any other way.

 

[Eeyore1954]

Originally posted by disykat
I have also laughed at funerals and closed my eyes or tried not to yawn by contorting my face at many a church service. I'm glad I didn't have cameras on me catching every expression.

I think the media and we the audience seem to be holding people to a very unrealistic standard of behavior - regardless of political associations.

ITA! At my father's visitation and funeral, our family and friends shared several laughs at humorous memories of my dad. Both occasions were filled with meeting people and friends, including old high school friends I'd not seen in over 20 years. For us, it was a celebration of my father's life and spirit, and even though we grieved, we could still find laughter in our memories.

I've had numerous times where I've had to fight fatigue or a lack of sleep or pure & simple boredom at a speaker. I am glad people aren't there to critique my every expression either!

 

[Eeyore1954]

Originally posted by Dan Murphy
Not really sure how I got into this (if the 'Dan' referred to is me) If it is, I meant NOT to include you, Truth, nor anyone who did not want to be included. Being that I think maybe more of the country was involved in sharing the moment, than not, and not having the space in the subject line to exclude you and the others, took the more inclusive approach of using the common word, 'we', meaning, a nation, a people, not you, nor you, nor you, individually. Next time there is a national event, let me know if I should exclude you or not.

Dan, not assuming to speak for the OP, but my "read" of this thread is that he is referring to former President George H.W. Bush in the "we didn't all share..."

 

[Dan Murphy]

Originally posted by Eeyore1954
Dan, not assuming to speak for the OP, but my "read" of this thread is that he is referring to former President George H.W. Bush in the "we didn't all share..."

I thought Truth was referring to this thread I had posted when he mentioned my name, sunset and we.................

http://disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=586738

 

[faithinkarma]

Originally posted by Eeyore1954
ITA! At my father's visitation and funeral, our family and friends shared several laughs at humorous memories of my dad. Both occasions were filled with meeting people and friends, including old high school friends I'd not seen in over 20 years. For us, it was a celebration of my father's life and spirit, and even though we grieved, we could still find laughter in our memories.

I've had numerous times where I've had to fight fatigue or a lack of sleep or pure & simple boredom at a speaker. I am glad people aren't there to critique my every expression either!

That is so well said !

This is something that happens at most funerals, when it is the death of an older person that is not sudden and shocking. You talk to the other mourners about the deceased's life. You share the good things they did during their life that touched you. You share the laughter and joy they brought into your own life. And you all laugh when these stories are told. It's called celebrating a person's life.

 

[Eeyore1954]

Originally posted by Dan Murphy
I thought Truth was referring to this thread I had posted when he mentioned my name, sunset and we.................

http://disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=586738

Hmm... could be, Dan ... I sit corrected. (Opens mouth to change the foot currently in it!)

 

[Alice28]

I just can't help but wonder if the tables were turned, and let's pretend it's 10-20+++ years down the road and it's former President Clinton's funeral. GWB is having a hard time staying awake, or perhaps it's some other hated Republican President that comes into office between now and the time Clinton passes; I have a sneaking suspicion he would be SLAMMED right out of the water. I guess after watching Clinton for 8 years in office, I think that man KNOWS how to be appropriate when the camera is on him. I understand people get sleepy or bored, but this was a HUGE national event and I would kind of think some effort would be made to look like you are paying attention...especially sitting in the front row and especially if you are a former President. I mean geez, it took much effort on my part to stay awake during some college classes or church services, but I did so out of respect to my professor/pastor and others around me, you know? And it wasn't just one time- it was every single time the camera was put on him, which I believe was 3 times. Very strange.

And kudos to #41 for going on with his party and celebrating life- taxpayers did not pay for that party- gimme a break.

 

[PamOKW]

Joy Behar had a positive spin -- It's the first time Bill and Hill have slept together in a long time.

 

[N.Bailey]

Originally posted by Eeyore1954
ITA! At my father's visitation and funeral, our family and friends shared several laughs at humorous memories of my dad. Both occasions were filled with meeting people and friends, including old high school friends I'd not seen in over 20 years. For us, it was a celebration of my father's life and spirit, and even though we grieved, we could still find laughter in our memories.

I've had numerous times where I've had to fight fatigue or a lack of sleep or pure & simple boredom at a speaker. I am glad people aren't there to critique my every expression either!

I do agree with you to a certain extent. While it's just assumption on my part, I really don't believe that Bill was fighting sleep at all. Call me names, flame away, but I really think he made those facial gestures on purpose. Kind of like, I have to be here, but I don't have to like it. Hey, maybe I'm wrong? What do I know. I just think with the world watching, and it being a once every 30 or so year event, it wouldn't take too much effort to keep your eyes open.

As for raising money for the libraries, I read here that Ronald Reagan's library raised enough money to pay for 2/3 of his funeral, so taxpayers didn't have to foot the entire bill. Does anyone have any information about that?

 

[cati]

Sorry, but I do not see the big deal if people want to spend their OWN money and go to Bush's birthday celebration. I do not see the big deal if these people want to spend their OWN money and do WHATEVER they want to - including spending it or giving it away. NO, that is not our tax dollars... that is people who work for a living and are spending their own money as they see fit!

 

[Laura]

Originally posted by always quiet
I am not saying I think anyone's behavior at Pres. Reagan's service was disrespectful, nor am I voicing an opinion on whether Pres. Bush should of continued on with his plans to have a birthday celebration for himself. Personally, I feel everyone, including those who are voicing their opinions here, have to answer for themselves in front of a much higher authority than any found here on earth. No matter what anyone does in life, there is always going to be someone out there who disagrees with their actions. If all of us lived life just to please others, there would be a whole lot of unhappy people in this world.

I think that was very well put.

 

[doxdogy]

Now this is just my own opinion and if it was stated once already, please pardon me for echoing someone elses sentiments. Everything we heard this past week about Mr. Reagan was that he was a person who valued friendships and family. Somehow I think that he would have been very disappointed if Mr. Bush had postponed his birthday celebration due to his passing. You only turn 80 once in your life.

On a lighter note, it was stated on the news the other night, that Mrs. Bush gave her consent for this jump. But, she did tell him that one way or another this would be his last jump.