WDW Summary of NEW DAS changes and Disney Genie - Post ONE is an updated summary

[lanejudy]

So the ILL rides ARE excluded.

The the ILL$ rides are not included in the Advanced Planning selections for DAS. No word yet on whether a regular day-of DAS return time can be booked for the ILL$ attractions. I expect they will be since there is a standby wait time posted (except for Remy).

 

[SarahC97]

This is addressed in the information Disney has given about Genie+

wdwinfo wrote an article after they got a preview of Genie. This is a quote from the article:
»I feel that it’s important to note that either a standby line or virtual queue will be offered at each attraction. Guests who would rather not purchase Genie+ or Individual Lighting Lane selections will still have access to the attractions they’d like to ride. »

And, this screenshot from the Disney website confirms the ILAS attractions will have Standby Lines (Top left column)
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OK, so all the ILL rides will have standby options? I find this all very confusing! LOL

 

[lanejudy]

OK, so all the ILL rides will have standby options? I find this all very confusing! LOL

Except for Remy, which will require a Boarding Group. If you obtain a BG at 7am (or 1pm), you may use DAS with Remy -- just like RotR until recently.

 

[SarahC97]

Except for Remy, which will require a Boarding Group. If you obtain a BG at 7am (or 1pm), you may use DAS with Remy -- just like RotR until recently.

I see. Thanks so much for clarifying!

 

[mshanson3121]

I'm on the phone with the DAS CM right now - they had no idea the info had even been released - color me shocked. Dear Disney - if you're going to release major changes to the public, perhaps educate your employees on the changes FIRST. Makes for better customer service.

 

[mshanson3121]

*** JUST CONFIRMED VIA PHONE CM*** who did go check with a supervisor:

All IAS rides WILL be excluded from DAS. Not just advance selection, but day of as well. The only options will be standby or purchasing an IAS.

I'm REALLY hoping she's wrong. But... quite honestly, I fully expect this to be true. I've also emailed DAS as well, so we'll see if I get the same info.

 

[SarahC97]

*** JUST CONFIRMED VIA PHONE CM*** who did go check with a supervisor:

All IAS rides WILL be excluded from DAS. Not just advance selection, but day of as well. The only options will be standby or purchasing an IAS.

I'm REALLY hoping she's wrong. But... quite honestly, I fully expect this to be true. I've also emailed DAS as well, so we'll see if I get the same info.

Wow. That's a load of BS if true.

 

[lanejudy]

*** JUST CONFIRMED VIA PHONE CM*** who did go check with a supervisor:

All IAS rides WILL be excluded from DAS. Not just advance selection, but day of as well. The only options will be standby or purchasing an IAS.

I'm REALLY hoping she's wrong. But... quite honestly, I fully expect this to be true. I've also emailed DAS as well, so we'll see if I get the same info.

Sorry, I don't trust the phone CMs. It doesn't make sense because that ride is no longer accessible. I think we'll have to wait until next week to find out. But with a posted standby wait time, there is no reason to not allow a DAS return time for those attractions.

 

[mshanson3121]

Wow. That's a load of BS if true.

Since our ASD daughter's favorite ride is 7D, yeah, this is a HUGE blow.

 

[mshanson3121]

Sorry, I don't trust the phone CMs. It doesn't make sense because that ride is no longer accessible. I think we'll have to wait until next week to find out. But with a posted standby wait time, there is no reason to not allow a DAS return time for those attractions.

Sure there is - $.

 

[SueM in MN]

Between 2 and 30 days in advance.

ETA: all days of your trip must fall within the 2-30 day pre-planning window. You need to already have your tickets and park reservations, and you must have your Friends & Family linked.

Shoot!
We have a trip planned, but the last days are a few farther days out than 30

 

[SarahC97]

Sorry, I don't trust the phone CMs. It doesn't make sense because that ride is no longer accessible. I think we'll have to wait until next week to find out. But with a posted standby wait time, there is no reason to not allow a DAS return time for those attractions.

This is my first thought too. I mean, I'm no lawyer, but isn't the point of DAS to provide equal access? How is that equal access? Seems that would open them up to lawsuits.

 

[mshanson3121]

This is my first thought too. I mean, I'm no lawyer, but isn't the point of DAS to provide equal access? How is that equal access? Seems that would open them up to lawsuits.

Yes, but there have always been rides that are inaccesible to certain people. Legally, Disney only has to provide reasonable access - not full. So that is 100% how they can get away with this, if this is in fact correct.

 

[DLgal]

Yes, but there have always been rides that are inaccesible to certain people. Legally, Disney only has to provide reasonable access - not full. So that is 100% how they can get away with this, if this is in fact correct.

Exactly. People will sue if this is the case. And rightly so.

 

[SarahC97]

Yes, but there have always been rides that are inaccesible to certain people. Legally, Disney only has to provide reasonable access - not full. So that is 100% how they can get away with this, if this is in fact correct.

True. But yeah, what a huge blow to those of us who depend on DAS to be able to go on rides. If true, I'm super disappointed.

 

[lanejudy]

Yes, but there have always been rides that are inaccesible to certain people.

But those attractions are inaccessible due to physical limitations in the design. I would argue that it being accessible only through an extra-pay entrance and inaccessible through the "free" entrance is not meeting ADA.

 

[figmentfinesse]

I’m going to guess that those CMs are confusing the fact you can’t book rides that use IA$ in advance with day of usage. I’m on team “you’ll be able to get a day of DAS for those rides or people will sue” team.

 

[mshanson3121]

I suggest some

But those attractions are inaccessible due to physical limitations in the design. I would argue that it being accessible only through an extra-pay entrance and inaccessible through the "free" entrance is not meeting ADA.

DAS is a courtesy however, not a legal requirement. ADA only requires "reasonable accessibility", and doesn't require every single ride be accessible.

 

[mshanson3121]

I’m going to guess that those CMs are confusing the fact you can’t book rides that use IA$ in advance with day of usage. I’m on team “you’ll be able to get a day of DAS for those rides or people will sue” team.

I asked specifically (and clarified twice) about the difference between advance selection and same-day selection, and she confirmed that she was told by her supervisor that IAS rides will not be available for advance selection OR day of. So we'll see. Hopefully it's wrong. But it absolutely makes sense to exclude those rides:

1. Legally, they can.
2. Financially, they want to.
3. By excluding these rides it will cut down on DAS abuse.

 

[OurBigTrip]

Phone CMs are notorious for giving out bad information…I would take anything they say about not being able to use DAS for IA$ rides with a grain of salt.