WDW COVID-19 Operational Changes- Reservation System-Rope Drop Procedures

[scard192]

Good question. I dont see why not especially in these circumstances. @yulilin3 would probably know more.

sorry, I meant airport security.

 

[Dopey'swife2]

I guess due to the potential crowds of people from all over the world.

It sounds as if these folks trust that everyone is using safe practices like they are. The problem is they don’t know if people in or around Orlando have the virus because they aren’t testing that many people. 400 tests have been ran in the state with 150 results still pending. The population of Florida is 21M. More tests don’t arrive until next week. WHO just defined this as a pandemic. I just don’t see the happiness in hand sanitizing every time I touch something or trusting that kids or all adults will follow the guidelines either. Disney is a touchy feely park. There’s just too much risk in trusting that cast members wipe down everything after someone has touched it, sneezed or coughed on it. Mark my words, there will be a large spread of this virus throughout the area and people will regret choosing fun over safety for not only themselves but other people at Disney, on their flights, in their hometowns. I hope I’m wrong but I certainly would not take the risk.

 

[eeyoreandtink]

I guess due to the potential crowds of people from all over the world.

the world cannot shut down every time there is a new bug. We live in a global society.

 

[eeyoreandtink]

It sounds as if these folks trust that everyone is using safe practices like they are. The problem is they don’t know if people in or around Orlando have the virus because they aren’t testing that many people. 400 tests have been ran in the state with 150 results still pending. The population of Florida is 21M. More tests don’t arrive until next week. WHO just defined this as a pandemic. I just don’t see the happiness in hand sanitizing every time I touch something or trusting that kids or all adults will follow the guidelines either. Disney is a touchy feely park. There’s just too much risk in trusting that cast members wipe down everything after someone has touched it, sneezed or coughed on it. Mark my words, there will be a large spread of this virus throughout the area and people will regret choosing fun over safety for not only themselves but other people at Disney, on their flights, in their hometowns. I hope I’m wrong but I certainly would not take the risk.

No, I am trusting what the science shows. this isn't the zombie apocalypse the media is billing it as. For the vast majority of people, it is simply a cold, nothing more. People in the at risk groups should stay home and limit their contact for sure, but the whole world doesn't need to stop for this. We need to take the same precautions we would if there was a flu outbreak in our area.

Also, would you say the same about the flu? Would you cancel your trip if you know Disney cast members had the flu and you could potentially spread it at home? It kills thousands every day. Yes, I know the line about "we have a vaccine" ect, but that vaccine is only marginally effective a lot of the time. Yes, the death rate for flu is lower, but it attacks children in a way this virus does not.

I say all this to say, if you wouldn't cancel or close something for a flu outbreak, then it isn't necessary for this either.

 

[Spridell]

It sounds as if these folks trust that everyone is using safe practices like they are. The problem is they don’t know if people in or around Orlando have the virus because they aren’t testing that many people. 400 tests have been ran in the state with 150 results still pending. The population of Florida is 21M. More tests don’t arrive until next week. WHO just defined this as a pandemic. I just don’t see the happiness in hand sanitizing every time I touch something or trusting that kids or all adults will follow the guidelines either. Disney is a touchy feely park. There’s just too much risk in trusting that cast members wipe down everything after someone has touched it, sneezed or coughed on it. Mark my words, there will be a large spread of this virus throughout the area and people will regret choosing fun over safety for not only themselves but other people at Disney, on their flights, in their hometowns. I hope I’m wrong but I certainly would not take the risk.

Do what's best for you. If you feel unsafe you have the option not to travel. If other people feel safe they have the right TO travel.

Swine, H1N1, etc... were also all "pandemics" and Disney stayed open through those.

 

[Mango7100]

No, I am trusting what the science shows. this isn't the zombie apocalypse the media is billing it as. For the vast majority of people, it is simply a cold, nothing more. People in the at risk groups should stay home and limit their contact for sure, but the whole world doesn't need to stop for this.

I think it is completely a mischaracterization to call this a simple cold and frankly that is the mentality that is dangerous. How many of us still go about our normal day with a cold, I do. Schools do not close, countries do not shut down, major conferences do not cancel, the government does not ban gatherings due to a cold. For a majority yes the symptoms mild, for others no. How many of the US population are 70 and over? Now how many adults (not just those over 70) have underlying conditions such as diabetes, asthma, COPD, hypertension, immunosuppression? It’s a lot.
I am not reading sensational news. I am listening to WHO, CDC, NIH, etc. last time I checked they have people working there with medical backgrounds so they kind of know what’s going on. And yes, I have a medical degree as well

 

[eeyoreandtink]

I think it is completely a mischaracterization to call this a simple cold and frankly that is the mentality that is dangerous. How many of us still go about our normal day with a cold, I do. Schools do not close, countries do not shut down, major conferences do not cancel, the government does not ban gatherings due to a cold. For a majority yes the symptoms mild, for others no. How many of the US population are 70 and over? Now how many adults (not just those over 70) have underlying conditions such as diabetes, asthma, COPD, hypertension, immunosuppression? It’s a lot.
I am not reading sensational news. I am listening to WHO, CDC, NIH, etc. last time I checked they have people working there with medical backgrounds so they kind of know what’s going on. And yes, I have a medical degree as well

It isn't a misharacterization, it is what the WHO has said. For the majority of people, symptoms mimic the common cold. I have a biochemistry degree. I have read the recommendations. People in the at risk groups need to limit travel and stay home. Same is true for ANY other illness of this type, including flu. Those groups are vulnerable to any number of other pathogens on a daily basis, so of which are more deadly than this. Yes, they need to take precautions. The rest of us need to go about our daily lives and practice good hygiene. Staying home if we are ill. These are the recommendations of all major agencies. The frenzy to close down the world isn't coming from them.

 

[mckennarose]

Can we please stay on topic, before this escalates?

 

[eeyoreandtink]

Can we please stay on topic, before this escalates?

It's on topic. We are discussing the need (or not) for the parks to close.

 

[Mango7100]

It isn't a misharacterization, it is what the WHO has said. For the majority of people, symptoms mimic the common cold. I have a biochemistry degree. I have read the recommendations. People in the at risk groups need to limit travel and stay home. Same is true for ANY other illness of this type, including flu. Those groups are vulnerable to any number of other pathogens on a daily basis, so of which are more deadly than this. Yes, they need to take precautions. The rest of us need to go about our daily lives and practice good hygiene. Staying home if we are ill. These are the recommendations of all major agencies.

I agree you should stay at home if you are ill. But the problem is that so many do not. We are trained to tough it out, shake it off, keep working. And because it is mild in many cases, people will think “eh...it’s just a little cough, I’m fine” and unknowingly spread it to others. That’s the problem. That’s where other entities, government, corporations, etc, feel like they have to step in and try to stop the spread and flatten the curve to keep the healthcare system from being completely drained (with subsequent higher fatality rates due to lack of care and lack of proper hospitalization)

 

[Mango7100]

Sorry, if this is veering too far off topic. I will stop

 

[eeyoreandtink]

I agree you should stay at home if you are ill. But the problem is that so many do not. We are trained to thought it out, shake it off, keep working. The general population. And because it is mild in many cases, people will think “eh...it’s just a little cough, I’m fine” and unknowingly spread it to others. That’s the problem. That’s where other entities, government, corporations, etc, feel like they have to step in and try to stop the spread and flatten the curve to keep the healthcare system from being completely drained (with subsequent higher fatality rates due to lack of care and lack of proper hospitalization)

Our healthcare system will not be completely drained by this. Only 18% of those infected that we know of have required hospital treatment, 8% have required advanced treatment. Those numbers are likely actually much lower because many have no idea they are infected because symptoms are so mild. The panic is needless.

 

[Dopey'swife2]

It isn't a misharacterization, it is what the WHO has said. For the majority of people, symptoms mimic the common cold. I have a biochemistry degree. I have read the recommendations. People in the at risk groups need to limit travel and stay home. Same is true for ANY other illness of this type, including flu. Those groups are vulnerable to any number of other pathogens on a daily basis, so of which are more deadly than this. Yes, they need to take precautions. The rest of us need to go about our daily lives and practice good hygiene. Staying home if we are ill. These are the recommendations of all major agencies. The frenzy to close down the world isn't coming from them.

How does one implement social distancing as recommended by the WHO and the CDC while at Disney?

 

[GADisneyDad14]

The TPAS board isn't really the best forum for debating or discussing the virus itself. That is far more than anyone here can tackle and there are an abundance of threads (mostly on the Community Board) available for broader discussion.

Whether WDW should or shouldn't close isn't really solvable question. At the moment it is not closed and there have been no schedule modifications, that's about all we know.

Most come to TPAS looking for practical planning discussion as it relates to their vacation investments based on current known information, hence the intended purpose of this thread.

That line is admittedly vague, I get it. We're mainly just trying to have a thread that doesn't dissolve into any arguing or unsolvable healthcare debates that are beyond the scope of theme park planning.

Thanks all.

 

[mckennarose]

It's on topic. We are discussing the need (or not) for the parks to close.

You know that people are starting to share their personal opinions of how bad it is, complete with medical background and reasons why they think people are over reacting, panicking, not taking things seriously enough.

There will be overlap of personal experience in your decisions to go to parks, not go to parks, how much to prepare, etc... I understand that. But it is, or has the potential to veer off topic quickly, like the other thread which was closed. All I'm doing is trying to remind everyone what the focus of the thread is. It's not a debate on who is right, has more accurate information, more medical experience, or if people should/shouldn't panic, worry, or take it too seriously, or not serious enough. People should and will make decisions for themselves.

In the meantime, as evidenced by the number of posts in the past few days, this thread is important and we don't want it shut down.

 

[yulilin3]

It sounds as if these folks trust that everyone is using safe practices like they are. The problem is they don’t know if people in or around Orlando have the virus because they aren’t testing that many people. 400 tests have been ran in the state with 150 results still pending. The population of Florida is 21M. More tests don’t arrive until next week. WHO just defined this as a pandemic. I just don’t see the happiness in hand sanitizing every time I touch something or trusting that kids or all adults will follow the guidelines either. Disney is a touchy feely park. There’s just too much risk in trusting that cast members wipe down everything after someone has touched it, sneezed or coughed on it. Mark my words, there will be a large spread of this virus throughout the area and people will regret choosing fun over safety for not only themselves but other people at Disney, on their flights, in their hometowns. I hope I’m wrong but I certainly would not take the risk.

And that's your prerogative, obviously. Personally I am not trusting the CM or anyone to keep safety procedures and wiping things down, I take manners into my own hands and I am cautious. I am not in the high mortality rate (which is the elderly) most everyone else that has been infected go through the symptoms and come through fine, obviously no one likes being sick but I'm not going to stop doing what I'm doing scared of getting sick with this when I have researched the virus. Again a personal decision, I won't knock you out for not coming and you won't knock me down for going.
Disney will decide to close if they see that it's the best thing to do for their CM (which they need to operate) as of now there has been 0 confirmed cases here in Orlando or Kissimmee where 99% of Disney's work force lives in

 

[cakebaker]

Ughh. I hate all the ridiculousness surrounding this. There is certainly no shortage of food. The only thing I have had a hard time getting is hand sanitizer. My sister and I got together and made a big batch with aloe vera gel and isopropyl alcohol for her classroom. She teaches your children and doesn't have a sink in her room so it is necessary for her.

Just a heads up- You might want to research the hazards of making your own sanitizer. It’s not as simple as mixing alcohol and aloe vera. I was going make some myself as I can’t find any here, but after looking into it 1) There’s no guarantee what you make at home is effective and 2) It can actually do harm depending on the recipe you use. Personally, as a parent, I wouldn’t allow my child to use any home made mix. My kids are all teachers and would never consider it.

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/why-you-shouldnt-make-your-own-hand-sanitizer/

 

[eeyoreandtink]

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[eeyoreandtink]

Just a heads up- You might want to research the hazards of making your own sanitizer. It’s not as simple as mixing alcohol and aloe vera. I was going make some myself as I can’t find any here, but after looking into it 1) There’s no guarantee what you make at home is effective and 2) It can actually do harm depending on the recipe you use. Personally, as a parent, I wouldn’t allow my child to use any home made mix. My kids are all teachers and would never consider it.

We did our research, but thanks. It needs to be 70% alcohol by volume, pure aloe.

 

[eeyoreandtink]

And that's your prerogative, obviously. Personally I am not trusting the CM or anyone to keep safety procedures and wiping things down, I take manners into my own hands and I am cautious. I am not in the high mortality rate (which is the elderly) most everyone else that has been infected go through the symptoms and come through fine, obviously no one likes being sick but I'm not going to stop doing what I'm doing scared of getting sick with this when I have researched the virus. Again a personal decision, I won't knock you out for not coming and you won't knock me down for going.
Disney will decide to close if they see that it's the best thing to do for their CM (which they need to operate) as of now there has been 0 confirmed cases here in Orlando or Kissimmee where 99% of Disney's work force lives in

THIS!