VWL Groupies & Lovers Thread (Special Collectors Edition 2.5) updated 2 February 2025

Hello all, we just got back from our stay at the WLV. We were there from September 26-October 4. It was our first time staying there. It is such a beautiful resort. The construction didn't at all take away from our enjoyment. We look forward to staying there again!
Welcome to the Groupies, Isabella! We'd love to hear more about your trip, as we're a chatty, friendly bunch. So glad you had a wonderful time at the Lodge and that the construction didn't dampen your vacation spirits. The Lodge, in general, and VWL, in particular, bring great joy to us, and we love to hear that they bring happiness to others, as well. Pull up a rocker and set a spell!
 
A big WELCOME to all the new groupies!!!!

Thanks for the kind words everyone about our DDs wedding

Mia
We will be eating at 11:50 at San Angel the 24th(sorry, forgot about that one). If I can talk T into it, might could slip over to the Lodge(I dont need much of an excuse for that)and catch you folks. If you could PM your cell # and I will give you mine, then it may be easier as time approached to make this happen.

twokats
PM me your cell and I will do the same and lets see if we can catch up
 
So I've made a bit of a sad decision yesterday and that was to sell my dvc after this next trip. :sad2:

I've actually been thinking about it for a while but wanted to wait until I tested out the whole magic band/fp+ thing before deciding.

Basically I'm just not loving the new changes. I don't like the magic bands, then yesterday it was announced that Disney is testing out a Fp+ only availability for one of it's headliners. In my experience Disney rarely only "test" something. Usually it's simply a prelude to what they plan to do. So for the next couple of days if you are at the world and don't have a fp+ for TSM you aren't riding it. AT ALL!!
I keep thinking of some poor smuck who saved up all year and is taking his kid to the world only to find out he can't ride a major ride because he didn't have reservations. :sad1:

I think this is the direction management is taking the parks, all the major rides will get rid of the standby lines and require you to reserve your spot if you want any chance of riding at all. I could totally be wrong and I hope that I am. I simply don't vacation regularly anywhere where my day is planned out in blocks of time.

Now don't get me wrong, we'll definitely go, we've got a trip with the whole family planned next August but I'll just wait for the discounts to go.

I really thought when I brought my dvc that I would be enjoying it for the next 50 years so it is bittersweet.
 
So I've made a bit of a sad decision yesterday and that was to sell my dvc after this next trip. :sad2:

I've actually been thinking about it for a while but wanted to wait until I tested out the whole magic band/fp+ thing before deciding.

Basically I'm just not loving the new changes. I don't like the magic bands, then yesterday it was announced that Disney is testing out a Fp+ only availability for one of it's headliners. In my experience Disney rarely only "test" something. Usually it's simply a prelude to what they plan to do. So for the next couple of days if you are at the world and don't have a fp+ for TSM you aren't riding it. AT ALL!!
I keep thinking of some poor smuck who saved up all year and is taking his kid to the world only to find out he can't ride a major ride because he didn't have reservations. :sad1:

I think this is the direction management is taking the parks, all the major rides will get rid of the standby lines and require you to reserve your spot if you want any chance of riding at all. I could totally be wrong and I hope that I am. I simply don't vacation regularly anywhere where my day is planned out in blocks of time.

Now don't get me wrong, we'll definitely go, we've got a trip with the whole family planned next August but I'll just wait for the discounts to go.

I really thought when I brought my dvc that I would be enjoying it for the next 50 years so it is bittersweet.

We will be heading down to the World in 2 weeks on our honeymoon, and this will be my first experience with the Magic Bands / FP+ / MDE circus. I must say, I'm a little hesitant about the whole mess, but am trying to go into it with an open mind. Regardless of how it turns out, I just don't know that it would lead to me selling my DVC interest. So much of what I enjoy is outside of the parks, and even when in the parks, so much of my enjoyment comes from things outside of the rides themselves (i.e. strolling down Mainstreet, riding the train, walking around W.S. at EPCOT with a drink in hand and poking my head into the different shops, etc.). In some respects, I'm definitely not excited about some of the changes taking place at our beloved WDW. On the other hand, I am surprised at the amount of investment being made - from the Disney Springs project to Avatarland, things currently in the works at HS, etc. Again, I'm not enamored with everything (I'm still sick about Maelstrom), but I want to reserve full judgment until I see the finished product. Even if I am less than pleased with the outcome, that will simply mean more relaxing vacations, as I will be spending more time at the resort and less energy running around the parks.

I think it would be fair to give it 1-2 more trips before making the final decision to sell. Disney is very much trying to figure this new FP+ / Magic Band thing out - maybe even more so than us guests are. I think they will continue to tweak things, some of which will be favorable, others of which we won't care for. Perhaps a few extra trips will give you time to learn the "in's and out's" of the new system, which might make it more bearable for you.

Just wanted to offer a contrasting opinion (which I'm hoping doesn't change after my upcoming trip!) :lmao:
 

And on that note of Honeymoon, I just thought I would share for the group a few details about the planning. I proposed to my now wife last September at the Wilderness Lodge (technically, it was about 15 feet away from the Mickey topiary outside of the Villas). Needless to say, she said "yes", and that spot holds a special place in both of our hearts. At the 11 month window, I booked 10 days at VWL for the honeymoon, and we couldn't wait to return "home".

This summer, I found out about the construction on Silver Springs Pool, and was devastated at the thought of the entire courtyard area that we love so much being walled off under construction. We were so upset about the potential of our honeymoon memories being plagued with construction walls and heavy equipment, that we decided to change resorts. It took an act of congress and multiple calls to Members Services, but I finally received a sympathetic CM who pulled a few strings and moved us over to BLT. It's no WL, but we do very much enjoy the Contemporary / BLT, so this will suffice. We will be sure to visit the Lodge and take a stroll down the very walkway that we shared that special moment only 13 short months before. :thumbsup2

Again, this will be our first trip with Magic Bands, FP+ and being tied to our cell phones for MDE. I'm not so sure how that's going to play out, but we're excited nonetheless to be returning "home" for our honeymoon :)
 
We will be heading down to the World in 2 weeks on our honeymoon, and this

I think it would be fair to give it 1-2 more trips before making the final decision to sell. Disney is very much trying to figure this new FP+ / Magic Band thing out - maybe even more so than us guests are. I think they will continue to tweak things, some of which will be favorable, others of which we won't care for. Perhaps a few extra trips will give you time to learn the "in's and out's" of the new system, which might make it more bearable for you.

Just wanted to offer a contrasting opinion (which I'm hoping doesn't change after my upcoming trip!) :lmao:

Hey Andrew,
Thanks for the opinion. This won't happen soon as we do have one more trip on the books.

I think it's just more of a realization that the vacation "style" that Disney is moving towards is not the way we really vacation.
We did hate the magic band/fp+ thing but you're right we've only one trip under our belts with it. for example, when I vacation I like to "disconnect". I don't turn on my cell, I take a notebook to simply download pictures and I don't wear a watch. Our tv is never on and we never let the kids "text" their friends, I hate when I go to restaurants and see kids lost in their own private cell phone world, so now that's virtually impossible to do at the world. any corrections or changes have to be made on a smart phone (of which I don't own) or you're in a line at a kiosk.
We rarely eat on site anymore, once again a large part of having to do the 90 day adr, dance. That wasn't to bad to work around since we're not big fans of the food quality.

Now like I said, I'll still go to the world but it seems our trips are morphing into 3 or 4 day long weekends and now since there is rarely a time when the mouseworld is not offering a discount, it's got me thinking that I'd be better served just getting a r/o discount.

I may be just reacting to the stupidity of fp+ only rides so hopefully that won't become permanent.
 
So I've made a bit of a sad decision yesterday and that was to sell my dvc after this next trip. :sad2: . . . . . . . . .

ELIZA61 - :eek: WHOA! SAY IT AIN't SO! SAY It AIN'T SO! :eek:

OK , ,OK , , I've gotten ahold of myself and stopped thinking all of the dumb thoughts that rushed into my head. After re-reading your post, it was clear that you didn't say you wouldn't visit the ol' thread as usual, offer your opinion when moved to, or laugh or cry with the Groupies as we continue onward with this continual Disney evolution. And I know you will keep us in the know as to your travel plans so we can enjoy a chance meeting, or group hug in one of those special Groupie Meets that somehow occur from time to time.

Gosh, how one's head can race off into silly thoughts so quickly, especially when there is a disturbance in the Force.

Better than most, you know that all great things end, and with them are the good and sad memories. May your great memories rise to the top.
 
Hello all, we just got back from our stay at the WLV. We were there from September 26-October 4. It was our first time staying there. It is such a beautiful resort. The construction didn't at all take away from our enjoyment. We look forward to staying there again!

Isabella...WELCOME the to Groupies thread! Thanks for stopping by and sharing your impressions. Just think how much you'll enjoy VWL once the pool construction is complete! :)

We asked about access to BB. The CM asked us how many days we wanted to go, then she went back to the manager, who added them to our Magic Bands. ..... It seemed a generous allowance, to us, to provide BB access. :)

Lisa...I agree that the BB tickets are very generous. There have been a lot of pool closings at various resorts over the years and I haven't seen Disney offer one of their water parks as a gesture of customer service. I'm sure there will be plenty of people unhappy that their pool closed down and no water park admissions given. As for me, I'm happy any time Disney is able to provide a surprise benefit like this. :thumbsup2

So I've made a bit of a sad decision yesterday and that was to sell my dvc after this next trip. :sad2:

Eliza...that is sad indeed, mostly because a place that we all love so much just isn't what you want it to be anymore.

I have a hard time believing that Disney will do away with standby lines completely...maybe only during the high peak seasons? But who knows? :confused3

I do know that so far, FP+ actually works better for our vacation style than the previous system because we do not plan a lot and tend to sleep in or hang by the pool in the morning. Therefore, there were many attractions (Toy Story Mania) that we did not do for years because we could never get a FP and didn't want to wait 110 minutes. So now we can "book" a few "must do" attractions while still maintaining our leisurely touring style. The only concession we had to make was to pick a park to go to in advance.

As for ADR's, we still don't make any prior to a trip (none placed for our October 24th trip coming up). Again, our touring style allows us to book ADR's while at WDW since we tend to skip lunch and eat dinner late afternoon when ADR's are more available.

I'm glad to have had the chance to meet up with you a couple of times at WDW and hope to have the chance to do so again in the future. Be well, my friend. :)

And on that note of Honeymoon, I just thought I would share for the group a few details about the planning. I proposed to my now wife last September at the Wilderness Lodge (technically, it was about 15 feet away from the Mickey topiary outside of the Villas). Needless to say, she said "yes", and that spot holds a special place in both of our hearts.

Andrew...wonderful story, and of course you have come exactly to the right place to find people who will appreciate the sentimentality and emotion you have for our favorite vacation spot. Thank you for sharing your story. :love:
 
Jimmy...I had the opportunity to view the wedding video and it was great! And I was impressed that you held your composure together so well. ::yes::

Thanks for sharing your family's magical day with the rest of us. :thumbsup2


By the way, I've been "eavesdropping" on the various meeting comments and I hope to have the chance to drop in on one or two of them. Maria, I think we'll have a good opportunity to get together on the back end of your trip if we can't meet sooner. :)
 
So I've made a bit of a sad decision yesterday and that was to sell my dvc after this next trip. :sad2: ... I've actually been thinking about it for a while but wanted to wait... before deciding. ... I really thought when I brought my dvc that I would be enjoying it for the next 50 years so it is bittersweet.
Awww... I can so relate. :flower3: In the late 1990s, we became DVC members and we also bought some other, less expensive, resale timeshares. But DVC was my favorite. A few years in, finances required that we sell most of them and I did not want to sell our DVC. :headache: To me, it represented our future opportunity to return to WDW and DVC HHI. Finally, when we were down to just 2 favored timeshares, as a strictly financial decision, we sold our DVC contract. :sad1: For me, there were tears of disappointment.

Less than a year later, we were able to trade our other timeshare into a spring week at DVC HHI. :goodvibes The whole wonderful week, we felt so blessed and aware that DVC membership is just one of several ways to enjoy Disney resort vacations and WDW. Disney fun would definitely still be in our future. :cool2:

Our VWL vacation last week was a timeshare exchange - not as flexible as points reservations but we had a really, really great time! ::yes:: Eliza, it sounds like you've got a nice plan to take advantage of discounts and deals, as they suit. You know that renting points is possible. Buying back in is always an option if you want, later.

I remember how hard it was for us to decide to sell and then do so. :worried: But it was the right choice for us. I wish you peace, if it's what makes the most sense for you. :eeyore: Thanks for sharing your decision.
 
HI groupies, I've been following along now and then keeping up with you all. But now that my trip is a mere 25 days away, it has been more often.

Selling your DVC is a sad decision, but only you can decide. Personally, we loved FP+ on our trip last Dec. Granted, it has been much more difficult to schedule this time, but I think there are couple of reasons for that. We usually vacation during non-peak times, but we are going during W&D marathon weekend AND our dates fall during a free dining period. Both of those items are leading me to believe we will not have our usual leisurely trip. But that's ok. We are also spending 2 days at Potter, so sacrifices must be made.

In this case, I really think all of these different tests are just that: tests. What works, what doesn't. Why it works well for some things and not others. When all is said and done, I think we will have a combination of things. Some rides will have stand-by and some won't. There IS a lot of money invested in it, so they want to see it through, and they have to really.

Call me naive, but I still trust Disney to do the right thing in the end. It is just painful getting there sometimes.
 
So I've made a bit of a sad decision yesterday and that was to sell my dvc after this next trip. :sad2:

I've actually been thinking about it for a while but wanted to wait until I tested out the whole magic band/fp+ thing before deciding.

Basically I'm just not loving the new changes. I don't like the magic bands, then yesterday it was announced that Disney is testing out a Fp+ only availability for one of it's headliners. In my experience Disney rarely only "test" something. Usually it's simply a prelude to what they plan to do. So for the next couple of days if you are at the world and don't have a fp+ for TSM you aren't riding it. AT ALL!!
I keep thinking of some poor smuck who saved up all year and is taking his kid to the world only to find out he can't ride a major ride because he didn't have reservations. :sad1:

I think this is the direction management is taking the parks, all the major rides will get rid of the standby lines and require you to reserve your spot if you want any chance of riding at all. I could totally be wrong and I hope that I am. I simply don't vacation regularly anywhere where my day is planned out in blocks of time.

Now don't get me wrong, we'll definitely go, we've got a trip with the whole family planned next August but I'll just wait for the discounts to go.

I really thought when I brought my dvc that I would be enjoying it for the next 50 years so it is bittersweet.
I fully understand your decision to let go of your DVC, and it is a bit sad. However, I re-read a few times what you posted, and it sounds more like your vacation needs and habits have morphed a bit over the years, and that facet along with the often head-shaking decisions Disney management brings to the table, DVC just isn't a good fit anymore. Makes complete sense.

I've had similar thoughts regarding Disney as they continue to modernize, though in this case I don't necessarily mean that as a compliment. Sometimes, new is fine (the FP+ actually fits our park touring model just fine), but just as often, old is good, too. Disney built its rabid fan base on nostalgia, but within the past several years, they've abandoned that strategy. They appear to be doing well at getting bodies into hotels, parks, and restaurants, only the appeal is to a newer generation. For example, I'm sure in 20 years those who are kids now and will have kids of their own will reminisce about the early, fun days of the new Frozen ride in Epcot (formerly Maelstrom). They'll tell stories of blinging out MagicBands and how antiquated they were (I'm sure something else will come along in the interim). They'll brag about how characters' signatures used to be easy and free (future guests will have to pay to get "special" sightings and signatures--you heard it here first) just by just going to a station in a park. . .much like we used to recall them walking freely around the various parks. And perhaps they'll even relate how there used to be these things called "standby lines." (Hey, does this new FP+ only strategy seem a bit like the old E-ticket days?) What bothers me most is the homogenization of so many pieces of the Disney experience, from staged character signings, to dining, to souvenirs. The unique twists that used to be de rigeur for Disney now owe more to the company's stockholders than imagineering.

How does all this impact me? It takes away a little bit of my magic, but I'd be naive if I didn't think that for millions of others, the changes are creating their own memories and magic. I just don't have to like it. I don't like Maelstrom closing. I don't like so much planning. Heck, I'm still sad that the gondolas at DL ever went away. While change is inevitable, my continuing to return to the World is not. I haven't reached that point yet, and as a corollary, my DVC ownership still works for luv and me. I just don't know if it will always be that way, so I'm sympathetic to your feelings.

Still, Disney continues to get it right the majority of the time, and I'm drawn there for reasons--as Andrew put it--beyond the rides and venues themselves. A little bit of my soul has been captured by Disney since so much of my wonderful life with luv revolves around how we met through the Mouse. I will always have tender thoughts for Disney, and I'll continue to visit in the foreseeable future (despite my veiled threats to luv about what I'd do to some of the corporate suits if we met in a dark alley). But. There may very well come a day when DVC, as an extension of my Disney fondness, may not fit the bill for us, either.

Andrew: As you may be aware, luv and I got married at the Lodge in July of 2013. While I didn't propose to her there, it holds very romantic and dear places in both our hearts. I love that Mickey topiary, too, though I recall it in the years before the three-nights-in-a-row hard freezes (2009?) when he had a tail. That severe cold made him lose it. I keep hoping they'll try to grow one back, but no luck so far. ;)
 
not sure how my internet service is going to be over the next couple days, so, sooooooo, we are going to start celebrating early around here, because in 2 days Audipolo will be 1 yr older

So, Happy Birthday Audipolo!!!!
 
Eliza
You know we love you here and any decision you make will not jeopardize your status in the groupies:goodvibes With that being said, let me share my sentiments with your current status and this is based on no fact, only opinion.

We too were once where you are, disenchantment with WDW, ready to sell. Cant remember why, we just were. For us, so glad we didnt sell. Whatever the reason, it passed and we have had countless fun trips since. The deal with TSM will pass too, WDW will figure out they are making a bone head move(because we on the net will let them know)Heard a blog yesterday from DIS unplugged and they were voicing their displeasure very much.

I guess my point is this, and its only my opinion, sit tight, let it play out, then see where you are then.
 
A big WELCOME to all the new groupies!!!!

Thanks for the kind words everyone about our DDs wedding

Mia
We will be eating at 11:50 at San Angel the 24th(sorry, forgot about that one). If I can talk T into it, might could slip over to the Lodge(I dont need much of an excuse for that)and catch you folks. If you could PM your cell # and I will give you mine, then it may be easier as time approached to make this happen.

twokats
PM me your cell and I will do the same and lets see if we can catch up
Oh yea....the San Angel lunch makes it a bit more challenging for a meet Jimmy. I will PM you my cell just in case. We have a 10 am Port check-in on Sat Oct 25. So we will be up bright and early to drive to Port Canaveral. Not sure if a quick swing-by would be possible? I miss SO MANY VWL Groupie meets despite the fact we are in the World at the same time. I really try but have also missed Jule (horselover) a number of times....Corinne too!! This can't be!!! I will be on the same cruise as Blossomz so that is cool!!!
 
eliza....I understand how you feel. Rob and I feel very similarly. It has been a hard pill to swallow with all these changes to the WDW park system. If you had a couple hours to sit and listen how the new Magic Bands and My Disney Experience/FP+ etc put such major stress on my daughter's wedding week in WDW you would wonder why am I even going back. I was reduced to crying no less than 3-4x that week from Magic Bands not working our door locks, in the parks, for purchases.......to missing reservations all together......it was so bad, the front desk at Bay Lake recognized it and voluntarily put a $200 credit on our account. Hands down, in over 50 trips since 1986, my daughter's wedding week was the worst experience with My Disney Experience (we couldn't even get the wifi to work the app when we were in our rooms trying to adjust FP times and make ADR's for meals. We had to walk over to Concierge at the front desk to get issues fixed or taken care of. So I absolutely can understand what you are thinking and how you are feeling. You know we all love you here......vent any time......we support you whatever your decision. And I couldn't agree more with Sleepy and Jimmytammy's statements.
 
:grouphug:eliza You can count on the Groupies to support your decision. We're here for you :goodvibes

Wishing audiopolo a very Happy Birthday!

Andrew Congratulations and Best Wishes on your fast-approaching nuptials! Our daughter honeymooned at VWL 5 yrs ago - and invited us to go with them on the Anniversary trip - in 15 days. Sounds like we may be in the World at the same time. Enjoy these next few weeks of festivities. They'll be behind you in the blink of an eye.

WELCOME to our new Groupies! So nice to have you here!

Enjoy your week-end!
 
Thank you everyone for the kind words! It means quite a bit to both my wife and I. We are very blessed to have found each other, and also to be able to honeymoon at a place we love so much. We really wish we could be staying at VWL with no construction, but BLT will make do. Getting us through this is knowing we already have a return trip on the books for June 2015 at our beloved Lodge!

DiznyDi - Our countdown is at 12 days, so we will definitely be there at the same time! Curious to know - what part of Northeast Ohio do you live in? We are located in Lake County about 25 minutes east of Cleveland. It really is a small world after all, isn't it?

:)
 
Hey folks!

Just got back from viewing the ships at port, one was a Royal Caribbean, the other, The Dream:thumbsup2 Very nice from what I could see. We hung out at a little village just beyond the port where there were several restaurants and a new observation tower that was very cool, gave a lot of info about the area.

We leave AnnieT and Alan's house for debarkation in the AM. Nice but too short a visit, IMO. We always have fun catching up! Will continue once back in the World.
 



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