Very upseting situation at California Grill.

[princesswendy720]

Agreed!

And why are we correcting the OP's spelling? I don't think there is anyone on here who isn't guilty of making a typo here and there. Lighten up.

 

[livie1205]

WOW YOU GUYS ARE SOOOO RUDE....maybe the op is simply soft hearted...good for her! she MAY not have understood what was going on but when I think I see something bad happen to someone else I feel bad for them...HUMAN nature...if you have a heart at all...

 

[DebbieB]

My question is why didn't E stand up for herself?

 

[yooperfan]

To the people posting it's not their problem, I wonder how you'll feel if you are asked to leave a lounge so someone else can have your table. That family of three had just as much right to have a table in the lounge as anyone else.

 

[The Hendies]

I think OP was sensitive because she works in food service and the situation seemed to cheat E. I guess it's no different than a bus driver taking a vacation to DWD and notices something strange about Disney drivers. Since it didn't seem that OP was going to be able do anything, she was just geting it off her chest. If I had noticed, I would have let E know that I noticed, and felt badly for her.

(Yes, I know.... there are 2 "t's" in getting! Did you notice?)

 

[bumbershoot]

I definitely notice stuff going on between employees, no matter where I am. At DCA one day I saw two male CMs being total jerks to a female CM, and watched them push her until she yelled at them and stormed away. Anyone not seeing the whole thing would have put the blame on her, but those guys pushed her buttons until she blew. I felt bad for her.

So I would notice something like that, definitely! I would have written something down, though, and handed it over to a manager.

...that disgusted me...

For those talking about *disgusting* things, note that seeing something disgusting is different than being disgusted by a situation.

 

[shortypots]

So did you notice how E responded to J's actions?

Actually, we told E about the situation. Especially after we asked if J had given up the table since she was using E's station. She said that J made no offer of another table and just shrugged about the fact she took her table. However, she was visibly upset by it. Also, when we told her about the family that was asked to leave she was completely shocked.

Yeah, I'm not sure what the problem was there either. How did that disgust you (shortypots)?

I don't get it, either.

How do you know that it wasn't already arranged between the two servers? How do you know they hadn't discussed how to handle the situation and this was their solution? How do you know J wasn't told by her boss what to do?

The truth is you don't know. You are certainly free to assume anything you like. Personally, I wouldn't get upset about something unless it directly affected me AND I had all the details--including conversations that may have taken place outside of my hearing.

Remember, this is Disney. I would guess that some things are done a bit differently due to the sheer numbers of people--and problems--they deal with on a daily basis.

As mentioned above, it was not previously arranged with E. I also highly doubt that management would ever allow a server to just ask a family to leave so another table could be served dinner. We observed the whole situation.

The reason that this is so disappointing to me is for these reasons-
1) A family was asked to leave that was doing absolutely nothing wrong and just waiting for their table. This is not right and should never happen anywhere let alone in Disneyworld.
2) J was essentially taking money out of E's pocket by taking her table- this is stealing! And it occurred right under Disney Management's noses and I have a problem with this.

For those of you who still do not understand why I have a problem with that, sorry to hear that, but apparently your moral compass points in a different direction than mine.

the lounge tables should be used to feed people if it means seating and not backing up the wait times so I don't understand why she thinks it was awful to move the family to the chairs along the wall since they were just parking there to "wait" anyway.

Completely disagree. Lounge tables are for lounging, which could mean sitting while waiting for your table.

I think shortypots was upset out of compassion to E. I can understand that. Sometimes people get upset when they think others are being hurt. I don't like to see anyone hurt either - or insulted. Which is why I wanted to add my 2 cents. Why must we be mean to others on the boards?

Thank you. I agree. I felt bad for E because essentially J was taking money out of her pocket, as well as for the family who felt they were wrong for sitting in the lounge area.

My question is why didn't E stand up for herself?

She was brand new only having been there for a month. She didn't want to rock the boat. She had to find a new job when all the clubs at Pleasure Island closed.

And why are we correcting the OP's spelling? I don't think there is anyone on here who isn't guilty of making a typo here and there. Lighten up.

gues they don't relize it is bad etiquete to corect speling on a mesage bored.

If I had noticed, I would have let E know that I noticed, and felt badly for her.

We did let E know, but since she was so new, she didn't want to rock the boat already so just shrugged it off.

 

[TDC Nala]

Since you found it that disturbing (I wasn't there and don't have the slightest idea whether I would have found such a thing disturbing or just interesting), the thing to do would have been bringing it to the attention of a manager as it was happening -although you did make it clear that your party couldn't or did not wish to talk to a manager at the restaurant. You can always write a letter, but at this point in time I would say that it is a bit far removed, especially as it wasn't something that actually happened to you. But it's possible the managers could be alerted that these things are happening, if indeed it happens on a regular basis. And it's suggested that you write an actual paper letter, not send an email.

By the way, you CAN sit in the California Grill lounge and eat there.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

The meal was good, but having been in food service, we notice these types of things more often than the typical person.

Everybody in America that finishes high school (or college if they go) should have to pull ONE YEAR waiting tables before they can get ANY other job. I don't care if they are going to be a DOCTOR.

This would serve to make ALL our lives a little better.

It should be a LAW.

 

[colonialtinker]

Everybody in America that finishes high school (or college if they go) should have to pull ONE YEAR waiting tables before they can get ANY other job. I don't care if they are going to be a DOCTOR.

This would serve to make ALL our lives a little better.

It should be a LAW.

I agree.

OP - I would send a letter. What gets me about the whole story is that most people haven't realize if J's tables had more then 6 people she will automatically get a 18% tip, while E loses a potential tip from the missing table. J knew what she was doing and knew that E was too green to say anything to the management. I really dislike the J's in this world.

 

[inaminute]

Completely disagree. Lounge tables are for lounging, which could mean sitting while waiting for your table.

Not at CG. Our first meal there was in the lounge. We were asked if we'd mind eating there. Not our choice, but were glad we took it. Great table, great service. The only bad thing was we were asked if we were leaving by another guest--right before the fireworks. The answer was an emphatic "No, we're having another glass of wine."

OP, thanks for clearing up some details. Glad to know you weren't simply assuming some things. I think that if I were aware of how things work in restaurants and had the details of the situation, I might have been annoyed as well.

 

[southernbelle5672]

OP - Some people just don't care about others. It's tough for empathetic people like you and me to understand, but all they care about is themselves.

Keeping being empathetic & caring - don't listen to all of these naysayers.

 

[hogwartsdropout]

I dont think its nice to name the people involved, I'd hate it if I read a thread like this on here!!

 

[Camryben]

Let me share something that happened to my girlfriend and I at a disney restaurant.

We stay at the WL for a few days to a week every holiday season. Last year we were there the week of the 16th. The day we went to the MK we decided it was quicker to take the boat back to the WL then stand in one of the lines at the park. We ate at the quickservice restaurant, the roaring fork I think. We both ordered cheeseburgers and also a brownie to split (it was a huge brownie.) While we were eating a mother came in. She had two children one was stroller age and the other was about 6 years old. The youngest child was screaming the whole time during this ordeal. I finished my burger and was waiting for my girlfriend to finish hers before we tackled our brownie goodness. The older child was playing with a toy car and "driving it" over all the tables, including tables where people were eating. The older child then walks over to our table sticks two of his fingers into our brownie and says "oooh what's that?" I sat there in shock for a second than turned to the mother who looked at us then turned her back to us and the child in the stroller, because she had been on her cellphone since she walked in and could not hear her phone over her screaming child. She looks around then gets up. I am stupidly assuming she is getting us another brownie. We never see her again. We sat there for another ten minutes while her older child continued to play on people's tables and her younger child continued to scream in the stroller with nobody watching it. I do not have children so my ideals on child raising could not be on point. But I vote for mother of the year for her.

First and last time we have done quickservice.

 

[wendy darling]

Let me share something that happened to my girlfriend and I at a disney restaurant.

We stay at the WL for a few days to a week every holiday season. Last year we were there the week of the 16th. The day we went to the MK we decided it was quicker to take the boat back to the WL then stand in one of the lines at the park. We ate at the quickservice restaurant, the roaring fork I think. We both ordered cheeseburgers and also a brownie to split (it was a huge brownie.) While we were eating a mother came in. She had two children one was stroller age and the other was about 6 years old. The youngest child was screaming the whole time during this ordeal. I finished my burger and was waiting for my girlfriend to finish hers before we tackled our brownie goodness. The older child was playing with a toy car and "driving it" over all the tables, including tables where people were eating. The older child then walks over to our table sticks two of his fingers into our brownie and says "oooh what's that?" I sat there in shock for a second than turned to the mother who looked at us then turned her back to us and the child in the stroller, because she had been on her cellphone since she walked in and could not hear her phone over her screaming child. She looks around then gets up. I am stupidly assuming she is getting us another brownie. We never see her again. We sat there for another ten minutes while her older child continued to play on people's tables and her younger child continued to scream in the stroller with nobody watching it. I do not have children so my ideals on child raising could not be on point. But I vote for mother of the year for her.

First and last time we have done quickservice.

that's horrible!! Some people should not be allowed to reproduce!! If that were my child- they would not have been running around in the first place, and second I would have apologized and bought a new brownie for you guys.

OP- I would have felt bad as well for her. I am sure she works very hard for her tips, and they only get a certain amount of tables per shift.

 

[NHTikiBeckie]

Thanks for explaining it better. At first read It wasn't very clear. I really wish a manager was alerted at the time though.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Completely disagree. Lounge tables are for lounging, which could mean sitting while waiting for your table.

Disagree. The lounge belongs to and is part of the restaurant. Diners take precedence over loungers.

It should be a LAW.

So should knowing how to spell

 

[mickaholic4077]

I agree.

OP - I would send a letter. What gets me about the whole story is that most people haven't realize if J's tables had more then 6 people she will automatically get a 18% tip, while E loses a potential tip from the missing table. J knew what she was doing and knew that E was too green to say anything to the management. I really dislike the J's in this world.

Hey!! My neice's name is J!!!

 

[shortypots]

Disagree. The lounge belongs to and is part of the restaurant. Diners take precedence over loungers.

So should knowing how to spell

Again, I strongly disagree. The lounge may be part of the restaurant, but so is the bar area. Should I be told I am not allowed to sit there and have a drink because I am not eating something? No. These folks looked perfectly willing to order a drink, but when their waitress came over she asked them if they were waiting for a table for dinner, they were asked to leave when they said yes instead of, " Can I get you something while you wait?"

As for your spelling comment, I think it is completely rude for anyone to mention spelling errors on the boards. This is a message board for opinions, and I do not begrudge people their opinions, but let's face it, no one spells correctly all the time, especially when typing is involved.

 

[Pumbaa_]

Enough of the arguing. This is not the debate board. Please stick to the topic or the thread will be closed

thank you!