VDH Unit and Sales Tracker

[VGCgroupie]

Does anyone have the current member incentive offer pdf?

Update: https://dvcexplorer.com/fin/m/VillasatDisneyland_Member_DeveloperCredit.pdf

Do we know if there is any additional Magic Key incentives or anything like that?

ooooohhhhh are you eyeing VDH?

There is this. But I dont have the official PDF for it.

• Magic Key holders can save $1,500 on a Disney Vacation Club membership with a special offer for The Villas at Disneyland Hotel! Offer starts at 100 Vacation Club Points and the more you purchase, the more you save — offer expires on February 10th, 2025.

 

[AstroBlasters]

ooooohhhhh are you eyeing VDH?

There is this. But I dont have the official PDF for it.

• Magic Key holders can save $1,500 on a Disney Vacation Club membership with a special offer for The Villas at Disneyland Hotel! Offer starts at 100 Vacation Club Points and the more you purchase, the more you save — offer expires on February 10th, 2025.

So, on 100 points that would be $15 off to get you down to $205 with incentives before closing costs?

 

[AstroBlasters]

ooooohhhhh are you eyeing VDH?

There is this. But I dont have the official PDF for it.

• Magic Key holders can save $1,500 on a Disney Vacation Club membership with a special offer for The Villas at Disneyland Hotel! Offer starts at 100 Vacation Club Points and the more you purchase, the more you save — offer expires on February 10th, 2025.

I’m just trying to wrap my head around the hypothetical costs difference between someone buying enough points to do some bank/borrow during the time we are planning to visit in August vs the current cash prices.

Current cash night for a 1 bedroom DVC vila: $999 + tax

Total points needed: 222

So, at $205pp

205x222=45,510
45510/49=928.776 annual amortization

222x9.8207=2,180.195 dues

2180+929=3,109 annual cost

3109/5=621.8 per night + tax

But, if you include a 4% loss of potential interest on the initial capital outlay.

45510x4%=1,820.4 loss interest
1820.4/5=364.08 lost interest per night

621.8+364.08=985.88 new nightly cost + tax

Very simplified method…. it’s not that $986 per night is an awful price for a 1bd villa…. it’s just not that different from the current cash price Disney is offering for a DVC villa and I find that interesting.

For comparison, a Deluxe Studio Preferred View is $604/night + tax cash price.

It is also interesting to see that the delta in cash and points between a 1bd and a studio is about 165%. Very different from other resorts where the 1bd is DOUBLE the points.

For instance at VGC for the same period:
Studio: 142
1BD: 284

VDH:
Studio PV: 136 points
1BD: 222 points

 

[VGCgroupie]

I’m just trying to wrap my head around the hypothetical costs difference between someone buying enough points to do some bank/borrow during the time we are planning to visit in August vs the current cash prices.

Current cash night for a 1 bedroom DVC vila: $999 + tax

Total points needed: 222

So, at $205pp

205x222=45,510
45510/49=928.776 annual amortization

222x9.8207=2,180.195 dues

2180+929=3,109 annual cost

3109/5=621.8 per night + tax

But, if you include a 4% loss of potential interest on the initial capital outlay.

45510x4%=1,820.4 loss interest
1820.4/5=364.08 lost interest per night

621.8+364.08=985.88 new nightly cost + tax

Very simplified method…. it’s not that $986 per night is an awful price for a 1bd villa…. it’s just not that different from the current cash price Disney is offering for a DVC villa and I find that interesting.

For comparison, a Deluxe Studio Preferred View is $604/night + tax cash price.

It is also interesting to see that the delta in cash and points between a 1bd and a studio is about 165%. Very different from other resorts where the 1bd is DOUBLE the points.

For instance at VGC for the same period:
Studio: 142
1BD: 284

VDH:
Studio PV: 136 points
1BD: 222 points

205 seems right.

I haven’t checked out the cash rates lately. $999 seems really low

 

[AstroBlasters]

205 seems right.

I haven’t checked out the cash rates lately. $999 seems really low

August 8-13

 

[The_MT]

August 8-13

go all the way to the end to see the final cash price. the taxes on cash rooms are insanely high, much higher than the VDH transient tax, it's not apples to apples

 

[VGCgroupie]

go all the way to the end to see the final cash price. the taxes on cash rooms are insanely high, much higher than the VDH transient tax, it's not apples to apples

Really?? That makes me insanely happy!!

 

[AstroBlasters]

go all the way to the end to see the final cash price. the taxes on cash rooms are insanely high, much higher than the VDH transient tax, it's not apples to apples

$223 a night in tax for cash price. $125ish for VDH…. So, a $100 a night savings.

 

[VGCgroupie]

August 8-13

Are you going to Disney's website? I have been looking for an easy way to compare rack rates. So far I haven't found a website that easily does rack rates for VDH.

 

[VGCgroupie]

August 8-13

I knew 1 beds weren't as good of a value but that doesnt seem worth buying if staying in a 1 bed during these times was all you would use it for.

I cant get an apples to apples comparison for my stay since cash rooms are sold out my dates. I chose the following week which I presume would be cheaper than my dates since my dates are during a special event and a holiday. 2 bedroom cash price including tax $9,796.41. 226 points $648.62 in tax at checkout.

 

[AstroBlasters]

I knew 1 beds weren't as good of a value but that doesnt seem worth buying if staying in a 1 bed during these times was all you would use it for.

I cant get an apples to apples comparison for my stay since cash rooms are sold out my dates. I chose the following week which I presume would be cheaper than my dates since my dates are during a special event and a holiday. 2 bedroom cash price including tax $9,796.41. 226 points $648.62 in tax at checkout.

I actually think the 1BD villas at VDH maybe some of the best 1BD value in the DVC system relative to the studio prices….

 

[VGCgroupie]

I actually think the 1BD villas at VDH maybe some of the best 1BD value in the DVC system relative to the studio prices….

Yeah it's much better than other resorts. But relative to cost of DVC vs cash it doesn't seem to be a great value, at least for the dates you were looking at.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Yeah it's much better than other resorts. But relative to cost of DVC vs cash it doesn't seem to be a great value, at least for the dates you were looking at.

Even the deluxe DVC studios are pretty attractive at cash prices at that time….

Granted this is 8m out…. but still….

 

[AstroBlasters]

https://dvcexplorer.com/fin/m/VillasatDisneyland_Member_MagicKey.pdf

Offer with Magic Key Incentive. $205pp @ 100points with MK.

If someone is only looking for 100 points and has a MK…. hard to beat a $34pp incentive…..

Sales idea, let people buy MK if they are buying into DVC-Y even if they are not available to the general public…..

 

[Genie+]

I’m just trying to wrap my head around the hypothetical costs difference between someone buying enough points to do some bank/borrow during the time we are planning to visit in August vs the current cash prices.

Current cash night for a 1 bedroom DVC vila: $999 + tax

Total points needed: 222

So, at $205pp

205x222=45,510
45510/49=928.776 annual amortization

222x9.8207=2,180.195 dues

2180+929=3,109 annual cost

3109/5=621.8 per night + tax

But, if you include a 4% loss of potential interest on the initial capital outlay.

45510x4%=1,820.4 loss interest
1820.4/5=364.08 lost interest per night

621.8+364.08=985.88 new nightly cost + tax

Very simplified method…. it’s not that $986 per night is an awful price for a 1bd villa…. it’s just not that different from the current cash price Disney is offering for a DVC villa and I find that interesting.

For comparison, a Deluxe Studio Preferred View is $604/night + tax cash price.

It is also interesting to see that the delta in cash and points between a 1bd and a studio is about 165%. Very different from other resorts where the 1bd is DOUBLE the points.

For instance at VGC for the same period:
Studio: 142
1BD: 284

VDH:
Studio PV: 136 points
1BD: 222 points

It won’t change the math much but buying by Feb 10 I think you’d still get 50 years (for all UYs, except Feb would need to buy before Feb 1st).

You’d get 2024 UY allotment, and the last allotment 2073, plus everything in between. I used my fingers to double check because my brain kept saying 49 years. If you start counting with 2024 allotment right up to 2073’s final allotment, It’s like a newly found free vacation!

 

[emchen]

I’m just trying to wrap my head around the hypothetical costs difference between someone buying enough points to do some bank/borrow during the time we are planning to visit in August vs the current cash prices.

Current cash night for a 1 bedroom DVC vila: $999 + tax

Total points needed: 222

So, at $205pp

205x222=45,510
45510/49=928.776 annual amortization

222x9.8207=2,180.195 dues

2180+929=3,109 annual cost

3109/5=621.8 per night + tax

But, if you include a 4% loss of potential interest on the initial capital outlay.

45510x4%=1,820.4 loss interest
1820.4/5=364.08 lost interest per night

621.8+364.08=985.88 new nightly cost + tax

Very simplified method…. it’s not that $986 per night is an awful price for a 1bd villa…. it’s just not that different from the current cash price Disney is offering for a DVC villa and I find that interesting.

For comparison, a Deluxe Studio Preferred View is $604/night + tax cash price.

It is also interesting to see that the delta in cash and points between a 1bd and a studio is about 165%. Very different from other resorts where the 1bd is DOUBLE the points.

For instance at VGC for the same period:
Studio: 142
1BD: 284

VDH:
Studio PV: 136 points
1BD: 222 points

What’s the phrase thrown around by DVC guides? Hedge against inflation? Sure $999 per for 1-br is close now, but in 25 years? I’m sure the delta would be quite significant.

 

[AstroBlasters]

What’s the phrase thrown around by DVC guides? Hedge against inflation? Sure $999 per for 1-br is close now, but in 25 years? I’m sure the delta would be quite significant.

It better be “up to” 50%….

 

[Dobermanns]

It won’t change the math much but buying by Feb 10 I think you’d still get 50 years (for all UYs, except Feb would need to buy before Feb 1st).

You’d get 2024 UY allotment, and the last allotment 2073, plus everything in between. I used my fingers to double check because my brain kept saying 49 years. If you start counting with 2024 allotment right up to 2073’s final allotment, It’s like a newly found free vacation!

Yeah. I added on in Nov to my Dec UY. 2023 points went to MB, and still have 50 years of points left.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Yeah. I added on in Nov to my Dec UY. 2023 points went to MB, and still have 50 years of points left.

But there are only 50 years total…. so how can you still have 50 years?

 

[Genie+]

But there are only 50 years total…. so how can you still have 50 years?

Some resorts start with as many as 51 years. CFW, VDH and RIV were possible.

Like with RIV, it expires 2070 but you could’ve gotten 2019’s points. If you count each allotment 2019 to 2069, its 51 years of points.