Vaping....much worse than cigarettes.

[Pea-n-Me]

Why not just use edibles and leave foreign substances out of lungs?

Exactly

 

[wgeo]

Why not just use edibles and leave foreign substances out of lungs?

I just watched a documentary that highlighted how challenging it is to get quality control and accurate amounts of thc across edibles. Perhaps the doc was biased (I did not research their sources), but on first glance it appeared to show both sides, but it did highlight the lack of oversight amongst quality control in edibles and the challenges to keeping the dosages equal amonst every sample within an edible batch. It also mentioned how it takes longer for edibles to take affect so mentioned that people often overdose themselves because it is so easy to eat a handful of gummies, for example.

 

[Captainkidd76]

Smoking marijuana is not nearly as bad as cigarettes. I'm shocked people really don't know this.

 

[Dan Murphy]

I'm not trying to argue the issue.

Really?

 

[Drasticq]

Smoking marijuana is not nearly as bad as cigarettes. I'm shocked people really don't know this.

Well, to be fair, with marijuana there is always the inherent risk of an allergic reaction in more than a few people. Like a dear friend of mine (who shall remain nameless on a public bulletin board). Smoked five spliffs, suffered what is dubbed "Cannabis Induced Psychosis" and underwent a HUGE psychotic breakdown. He is currently in an intensive care ward for psychiatric patients and is being treated with 900mg Clozapine, several antidepressants including MAOIs and mood stabilisers such as Sodium Valproate. He is violent and is sedated often with the use of benzodiazepines. His mother tries to bring in food from McDonalds, but often he just throws it to the wall.

For the MOST part cannabis is safer than smoking or alcohol. But for those allergic to cannabis (probably more so with stronger strains such as skunk) it's hell. As for frequency of said allergic reactions, I've been informed it is between 1 in 10 and 1 in 100. At one point doctors thought they had devised a clinical test, but it fell short.

 

[Carol_]

I agree kids should not Vape, as to its much worse then ciggerettes, I dont know ? it seems like a scientist are over the place trying to push there agenda ( much like the media)

I’m an MD with a very strange job. I don’t treat living patients. If anything, I’d make more money if deaths increased. I have no agenda, only a great deal of expensive and extensive education that makes it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that vaping is far more lethal than cigarettes.

 

[Sjm9911]

I’m an MD with a very strange job. I don’t treat living patients. If anything, I’d make more money if deaths increased. I have no agenda, only a great deal of expensive and extensive education that makes it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that vaping is far more lethal than cigarettes.

And you have resurch to back this up? Or is it just baised on your education? I can say that almost the same amount of people that died from vaping were killed on bicycles in NYC this year, so does that make bicycles much worse then vaping? It seems that with lack of evidence people like to jump to conclusions. Smoking kills many more then 23 people a year. Thats a fact. I know the year isnt over but , i think vaping is a long way off from being worse then smoking.

 

[Captainkidd76]

Really?

Really. I have my opinions on the issue. They're not always going to be the same as someone else. If this isn't allowed, then a Mod will shut the thread down. Nobody is insulting anyone. Calling people names. It's a respectful, aduit discussion.

 

[Captainkidd76]

I’m an MD with a very strange job. I don’t treat living patients. If anything, I’d make more money if deaths increased. I have no agenda, only a great deal of expensive and extensive education that makes it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that vaping is far more lethal than cigarettes.

You have no agenda yet you just made a statement with absolutely zero evidence, and one that the majority of people in your profession would disagree with.

 

[wgeo]

You have no agenda yet you just made a statement with absolutely zero evidence, and one that the majority of people in your profession would disagree with.

Do you have evidence that the majority of people in her profession would disagree with her?

 

[Captainkidd76]

Do you have evidence that the majority of people in her profession would disagree with her?

No. Good point.

 

[ronandannette]

I just watched a documentary that highlighted how challenging it is to get quality control and accurate amounts of thc across edibles. Perhaps the doc was biased (I did not research their sources), but on first glance it appeared to show both sides, but it did highlight the lack of oversight amongst quality control in edibles and the challenges to keeping the dosages equal amonst every sample within an edible batch. It also mentioned how it takes longer for edibles to take affect so mentioned that people often overdose themselves because it is so easy to eat a handful of gummies, for example.

When recreational pot was became legal here last year, edibles were excluded for exactly the reasons you mention. They are supposedly being phased in but since all legal products for sale must be produced by government-approved facilities, I don't think very many are available yet.

 

[Captainkidd76]

When recreational pot was became legal here last year, edibles were excluded for exactly the reasons you mention. They are supposedly being phased in but since all legal products for sale must be produced by government-approved facilities, I don't think very many are available yet.

Are you referring to edibles at dispensaries or "off the street"?

 

[ronandannette]

Are you referring to edibles at dispensaries or "off the street"?

Neither, exactly. Recreational marijuana is legal in Canada and is sold through private, government-licensed retail outlets. The only catch is that the products must come from government-licensed and inspected growers/production facilities. The cart got put before the horse and there are way more outlets than the approved supply chain can keep up with. Edibles were not legalized for sale initially but they have since been phased in. I don't partake so I'm not sure what the state of availability for them is - I'd guess it's no better than for weed.

 

[Sjm9911]

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/illegal-vapes-traced-california-woman-050227876.html

 

[Pea-n-Me]

In the news today:

First double lung transplant performed on patient with vaping-related lung damage!

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/2569550001

 

[Sjm9911]

https://www.nj.com/healthfit/2020/0...-new-study-shows-it-might-be-for-nothing.html

 

[mjkacmom]

https://www.nj.com/healthfit/2020/0...-new-study-shows-it-might-be-for-nothing.html

A vape shop a few blocks away is now an oxygen bar. I really feel like those fun flavors were geared towards kids and teens who were not trying to break a nicotine habit, but starting one. Adults I know who are using them for the intended purpose don’t go for the fruity flavors, it’s not like tobacco tastes fruity. So many teens who start vaping nicotine move on to THC oils which are so much more potent than pot.

 

[Sjm9911]

A vape shop a few blocks away is now an oxygen bar. I really feel like those fun flavors were geared towards kids and teens who were not trying to break a nicotine habit, but starting one. Adults I know who are using them for the intended purpose don’t go for the fruity flavors, it’s not like tobacco tastes fruity. So many teens who start vaping nicotine move on to THC oils which are so much more potent than pot.

Your 100 percent wrong on the flavoring. As people quit smoking there tasts change. So the tabacco tastes as other non smokers smell it, bad. So they move on to the flavored vapes. You can feel whatever you want, but the flavors came about because adults didnt like the tabacco anymore.

 

[TheIncredibles!]

A vape shop a few blocks away is now an oxygen bar. I really feel like those fun flavors were geared towards kids and teens who were not trying to break a nicotine habit, but starting one. Adults I know who are using them for the intended purpose don’t go for the fruity flavors, it’s not like tobacco tastes fruity. So many teens who start vaping nicotine move on to THC oils which are so much more potent than pot.

I am a medical marijuana user. I had ONE vape that was grape flavored, I loved it Now they took flavorings away and they all taste like skunky pinesol