Vacation Homes That Cannot be Rebuilt after Ike

brerrabbit

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The press is really jumping on the fact that due to a Texas Law written and enacted in 1959 will effectively block some homeowners from rebuilding their damaged homes. I am a lifetime Texan and since I was old enough to be aware of my world I have been aware of this law. Maybe because I have fished the Texas Gulf Coast my entire life, maybe because my Father taught me about it when I was young, but according to every major news source it is a "little known Texas law". Basically what it says is you cannot build on state land and state land extends from the water to the vegetation/dune line. I am a advocate of not building in these areas and I have always been. I grew up on the unihabited beaches of Galveston Island and have wished for years that they would stay that way.

There are definately two sides to the arguement but one of the better sources for information on why we should not build and the economic costs to all US citizens is found at the Heinze Group Studies. This is the conclusion of one of their many studies done in 2000.

Federal initiatives such as the Robert T. Stafford Disaster
Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, National Flood Insurance Program,
beach nourishment programs, tax incentives for second homes,
and infrastructure projects, as well as relevant state and local policies
and practices, should be reexamined by legislative and executive bodies
at all levels to reduce their role as possible stimulators of coastal
growth and enhancers of vulnerability in known hazardous areas.
Human and social costs should be part of the benefit–cost analysis
used to determine any project’s viability. Similarly, vulnerability
assessments should be undertaken by all government jurisdictions as
part of regular land use planning and zoning processes.

The full study can be found here:

http://heinzhome.heinzctrinfo.net/publications/PDF/Full_report_human_links.pdf

One of the many articles calling the law "little known" can be found here;

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26780578

Notice in the msnbc article that it says that every person that builds in these areas are told about the law at several points during the purchase process.

What do you think about it all.
 
The homes are insured (hopefully), they get the payout and then it becomes "unbuildable". I don't see what the big deal is.

Who owns the land after that?
 
Yay Texas :thumbsup2 I'm sick of my tax dollars subsidizing the rebuilding of other peoples' foolish ventures.
 
The homes are insured (hopefully), they get the payout and then it becomes "unbuildable". I don't see what the big deal is.

Who owns the land after that?

The land is essentionly "gone", erode into the Gulf. If the structure is on the Gulf side of the dunes, on the beach then the State of Texas owns the land according to the Texas Open Beach Law.

And, yes they are insured. Insured by heavily subsidized federal insurance programs that every taxpayer in America pays for. So those who lost their $500 k vacation homes appreciate your support.
 

The land is essentionly "gone", erode into the Gulf. If the structure is on the Gulf side of the dunes, on the beach then the State of Texas owns the land according to the Texas Open Beach Law.

And, yes they are insured. Insured by heavily subsidized federal insurance programs that every taxpayer in America pays for. So those who lost their $500 k vacation homes appreciate your support.

Well it is allowed.:confused3 Not much we can do right? Or can we.:confused3
 
And, yes they are insured. Insured by heavily subsidized federal insurance programs that every taxpayer in America pays for. So those who lost their $500 k vacation homes appreciate your support.

But at least with this law, we only pay for these houses once not time and time again. Wonder if AIG underwrites this insurance? If so we're paying twice - talk about adding insult to injury :mad:
 
We pay only once for the homes that wind up on the beach. The ones on the second, third, fourth row etc. we will pay for again and again until such time as they wind up on the beach.

In addition there are several law suits that are attempting to get elevated to the supreme court so that they can have the Texas Open Beach law declared unconstitutional. I am not sure what will happen if it is other than eventually these people will own houses that are a quarter of a mile offshore and then they are going to have to fight marine navagation laws.
 
As one TX law maker said, READ YOUR DEED! The law is there. These people built there homes knowing (if not it's their own fault for not reading) that this was possible. They lost the right to be mad when they signed said deed.
 
why don't ya'll ***** about how we are paying to rebuild the gehtto in new orleans. I get it help the poor ,but not the middle class people who pay for everything w/ NO HANDOUTS!!!! you people make me :sick: If this was your home and it was gone from a hurricane would you feel the same way.
 
I don't think people show be allowed to build back in some parts of LA. The difference is LA has no such law, TX does.
 
also not all of them are vacation homes. people do live there also. you people are so 2 face!! im so sorry you lost your home to a hurricane,but im glad you can't rebuild and not get your money back for your land!!!!

Two face? How? I do hate that people lost their homes. But they bought said homes with the law written on their deeds. They should have known when they bought that this was possible. This isn't the first time the state of TX has enforced this law. When people make such a large purchase they should know all that they are getting into. Including that if the shore line changes they can lose said purchase.
 
the diff between me and you is i have the balls to say NEW ORLEANS:lmao: what parts of LA are you talking about? if you have the balls to post it:lmao:


Well see the true difference between you and I, is that I know it wasn't just New Orleans that was flooded. :rolleyes:
 
Well see the true difference between you and I, is that I know it wasn't just New Orleans that was flooded. :rolleyes:

no it was the gehtoo -9th ward -they should have bulldozed that a long time ago!! what parts of LA are you talking about?
 
Oh Good Lord! Most of Southern Louisiana is below sea level and flooded during Katrina. From St. Bernard Parish to the Grand Isle experiance major damage from flooding.

But here is the kicker, in case you missed it the first time around Louisiana has no such law concerning shore line. Texas does!
 
I guess that is the diff between ike and katrina people. we can afford to rebuild w/o handouts and can pay for a lawyer also!!!!!!!
 
why don't ya'll ***** about how we are paying to rebuild the gehtto in new orleans. I get it help the poor ,but not the middle class people who pay for everything w/ NO HANDOUTS!!!! you people make me :sick: If this was your home and it was gone from a hurricane would you feel the same way.

I feel the same way about rebuilding the 9th ward in NO.

And, my home would not be on the shoreline. Ever. Anywhere. Not even if I was filty, dirty, rotten, stinking rich.
 
The Open Beaches Act Notice is in the standard form of residential contract of sale that is used in Texas (published by the Texas Real Estate Commission.)
 
my point is that we can feel sorry for the poor people who do nothing ,but keep popping babies and living on welfare(LA AND TX)and 3 years later still here about how katrina people got nothing. which they did get over $2,000 FROM FEMA and also more food stamps. these people from IKE are getting NOTHING and lots of people died ,but the gov. is keeping a black out on the deaths. these people can't even get food stamps:confused3 and also the media is not even talking about IKE,but im sure next yr. we will here about katrina's 4 yr ann. please! I feel sorry for peoples home who were destroyed bc of ike!!!
 


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