Using Fastpass+ and baby swap card

[brockash]

WOW!!! are you talking from experience?? It took me 3 weeks to have someone answer this way.. (I've been hearing this same answer for about 2 days now tho)... Every time I would call the Disney info line, the cm's would give me a totally different answer and some didn't even know what the baby swap pass was!! (so they say)!!!

Yes, we go every yr and have used baby swap more times than I can count. It seems to always get confused on here with it somehow being tied to fastpasses, but it's not. Think of it this way...would Disney deny giving a baby swap to someone simply because they didn't have a fastpass? You don't need a fastpass to ride and it wouldn't make any sense. I think ppl just get caught up with the fastpass thing and get confused. As far as using it with the new fastpass +...we did just this in Sept....there was no tiering, but again, Disney allows everyone to pick their own tier "A" fastpass so you and someone else in your party can have something different and they baby swap thing is not tied to your fastpass, so in a way those with a "baby" are somewhat at an advantage with the fastpass + system.

 

[WantToGoNow]

I have tried over the years to get baby swap tickets for my ds who does not ride thrill rides. Never happened - even when he threw a fit after we were seated on SM and BTMRR and had to get out. So he started waiting in the line and taking the chicken exit. And I do believe a 8 y/o is old enough to wait a few minutes for you.

 

[skittlesrock]

Yes, we go every yr and have used baby swap more times than I can count. It seems to always get confused on here with it somehow being tied to fastpasses, but it's not. Think of it this way...would Disney deny giving a baby swap to someone simply because they didn't have a fastpass? You don't need a fastpass to ride and it wouldn't make any sense. I think ppl just get caught up with the fastpass thing and get confused. As far as using it with the new fastpass +...we did just this in Sept....there was no tiering, but again, Disney allows everyone to pick their own tier "A" fastpass so you and someone else in your party can have something different and they baby swap thing is not tied to your fastpass, so in a way those with a "baby" are somewhat at an advantage with the fastpass + system.

well I just went on Disney site and the guest services info on the rider's pass it says you get the passes in the normal queue.. not about someone using a fastpass..


To Use Rider Switch:

1. Check that Rider Switch is offered at the attraction in question by asking a Cast Member.

2. Enter the normal queue with your entire party. At least one adult member of your party and the Guest who will not be riding will then be issued a Rider Switch Pass and asked to wait in a designated area. This group is “Party 2.”




so this is why I question this and don't want to be stuck and get annoyed at the cm's that are there..
I guess they don't want to make things clear cut for their guests..lol

 

[brockash]

well I just went on Disney site and the guest services info on the rider's pass it says you get the passes in the normal queue.. not about someone using a fastpass..

To Use Rider Switch:

1. Check that Rider Switch is offered at the attraction in question by asking a Cast Member.

2. Enter the normal queue with your entire party. At least one adult member of your party and the Guest who will not be riding will then be issued a Rider Switch Pass and asked to wait in a designated area. This group is “Party 2.”

so this is why I question this and don't want to be stuck and get annoyed at the cm's that are there..
I guess they don't want to make things clear cut for their guests..lol

You don't have to believe anyone it's up to you, but know that the Disney site, while annoying, often does not give full accurate info. It's really annoying, but that's why I count on places like this to get real info. I also go in knowing that I personally don't 100% know since it's something new until I try it for myself, but generally I'd say 90% of the time the info. I get on here is accurate. You can do what you please, but just know that there will be plenty of ppl. that do just as i described. Basically Disney does not penalize you for having a baby. If you want to use the standby line and then just the fastpass line with the baby swap you can, if you want to use the fastpass line twice (while only having the first party of riders scan their bands you can); you do whatever works for your situation. The website makes it sound like the whole party goes through the standby line que -that's just not true. You're going to get your baby swap pass outside the line from the CM either checking heights or helping to move the fastpass line along. The baby will never enter the line.

 

[cfriend416]

I just wanted to add something that I don't think others have emphasized. Even if some CM's do give rider swap passes for kids who are tall enough but too scared/don't want to ride, rider swap is only available for rides with height restrictions. That's what we were told, anyway, when we asked for rider swap on one of the fantasyland rides so someone could stay with my sleeping niece. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

So argue whatever you want, but the purpose of it is for height restrictions. And honestly, I think that's the way it should be. Rider swap passes can be used at any point during the day, so if people could just say that any child "doesn't want to ride" they could just go back later and the same child could ride, along with other family members getting a second ride. So basically unlimited fast passes for at least some of the family on every height restricted ride. And that's just not fair.

 

[Disneyaddictz]

I don't know why you are angry at me. I just reported what I saw and what others have reported. Disney has determined ages that kids are allowed to stand in line and ride alone and enter the park alone. If you have a problem with the ages Disney has determined to be safe 1) take it up with them or 2) don't allow your child to ride or enter alone. Child swap is something not attached to an age of a child but the size of a child.

I don't recall much small print on them..

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[Gracie09]

I don't recall much small print on them.. Sent from my iPhone using DISBoards

Those are park rules. You can look them up if you wish. There was a bit of a ruckus a few years ago when they added the age 14 to enter parks alone. I never said they were written on rider swap cards.

 

[LoveMMC]

This part concerns me


Enter the normal queue with your entire party.

It says normal queue - but if we do that- we waste fastpasses selections.
I remember one CM said I need to see you enter that standby line before I give passes in 2011.

 

[GrnMtnMan]

rider swap is only available for rides with height restrictions. That's what we were told, anyway, when we asked for rider swap on one of the fantasyland rides so someone could stay with my sleeping niece. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

The attractions that offer Rider Switch are listed on the page I linked to above. Here is the list on that page:

Attractions Offering Rider Switch

Magic Kingdom Park
Frontierland
Big Thunder Mountain Railroad
Splash Mountain

Storybook Circus
The Barnstormer

Tomorrowland
Space Mountain
Stitch’s Great Escape
Tomorrowland Indy Speedway

Epcot
Future World
Mission: SPACE
Soarin'
Test Track

Disney’s Hollywood Studios
Rock ’n’ Roller Coaster Starring Aerosmith
Star Tours® - The Adventures Continue
Twilight Zone Tower of Terror

Disney’s Animal Kingdom Park
DINOSAUR
Expedition Everest - Legend of the Forbidden Mountain®
Kali River Rapids
Primeval Whirl

 

[BillyBuckner]

Our last trip was in mid-November 2013. We have done 4 trips with a child that is under height, and we have never been denied a rider swap pass when entering either the Standby or FastPass line.

When entering the FastPass line with 3 people while another adult (4th person) waited with the too short child (5th) we have rarely if ever been required to show the FastPass for the 4th person to get the rider swap. I see this as sort of a loophole -- although it would be a hassle to take advantage of

 

[MrInfinity]

Well I just went on Disney site and the guest services info on the rider's pass it says you get the passes in the normal queue.. not about someone using a fastpass..

To Use Rider Switch:

1. Check that Rider Switch is offered at the attraction in question by asking a Cast Member.

2. Enter the normal queue with your entire party. At least one adult member of your party and the Guest who will not be riding will then be issued a Rider Switch Pass and asked to wait in a designated area. This group is “Party 2.”

So this is why I question this and don't want to be stuck and get annoyed at the cm's that are there.. I guess they don't want to make things clear cut for their guests..lol

Skittles, I think you've found such a hard time getting the answer you're looking for because it's against the rules. Disboards has a policy about only recommending following the rules, and giving advice on how to circumvent them is not allowed... so I'm kinda surprised this thread hasn't been locked.

The policy clearly states the normal queue. I've had a CM explain the procedure, in which she was adamant about the normal queue. So some CMs do "get it". You're welcome to try it your way, tho if you do get blocked, hopefully you do not get mad at a CM for doing his/her job.

 

[skittlesrock]

Skittles, I think you've found such a hard time getting the answer you're looking for because it's against the rules. Disboards has a policy about only recommending following the rules, and giving advice on how to circumvent them is not allowed... so I'm kinda surprised this thread hasn't been locked.

The policy clearly states the normal queue. I've had a CM explain the procedure, in which she was adamant about the normal queue. So some CMs do "get it". You're welcome to try it your way, tho if you do get blocked, hopefully you do not get mad at a CM for doing his/her job.

I don't understand what you're saying!!! I'm not giving advice I'm asking questions.. and the other people who've answered are only saying what they experienced.. no advice or telling someone to do it one way or the other!

 

[skittlesrock]

Skittles, I think you've found such a hard time getting the answer you're looking for because it's against the rules. Disboards has a policy about only recommending following the rules, and giving advice on how to circumvent them is not allowed... so I'm kinda surprised this thread hasn't been locked.

The policy clearly states the normal queue. I've had a CM explain the procedure, in which she was adamant about the normal queue. So some CMs do "get it". You're welcome to try it your way, tho if you do get blocked, hopefully you do not get mad at a CM for doing his/her job.

FYI:
This isn't the only thread that is talking about rider switch passes with fastpass.. this is quoted from another thread!


Adult 1: has FP for SM, adult 2 and toddler get rider swap (seriously you kind of have to keep the other child outta sight for this to work correctly).... Adult 1 rides SM and then adult 2 and child ride using rider swap

Adult 1: has FP for speedway, adult 2 and toddler get rider swap...adult 1 rides speedway and then adult 2 and child ride using rider swap

Adult 2: has big thunder FP, adult 1 and toddler get rider swap....adult 2 rides big thunder and then adult 1 and child ride using rider swap

Adult 2: has splash FP, adult and toddler get rider swap....adult 2 rides splash and then adult 1 and child ride using rider swap

All 3 have Pirates FP ride all together including toddler.

If child is aged 7 or older then have child use their other 2 FPs on other rides that you are willing to sit out on. Or try to sweet talk one of the adults onto the ride with him if the child isn't over 7.

 

[MrInfinity]

FYI:
This isn't the only thread that is talking about rider switch passes with fastpass.. this is quoted from another thread!


Adult 1: has FP for SM, adult 2 and toddler get rider swap (seriously you kind of have to keep the other child outta sight for this to work correctly).... Adult 1 rides SM and then adult 2 and child ride using rider swap

Adult 1: has FP for speedway, adult 2 and toddler get rider swap...adult 1 rides speedway and then adult 2 and child ride using rider swap

Adult 2: has big thunder FP, adult 1 and toddler get rider swap....adult 2 rides big thunder and then adult 1 and child ride using rider swap

Adult 2: has splash FP, adult and toddler get rider swap....adult 2 rides splash and then adult 1 and child ride using rider swap

All 3 have Pirates FP ride all together including toddler.

If child is aged 7 or older then have child use their other 2 FPs on other rides that you are willing to sit out on. Or try to sweet talk one of the adults onto the ride with him if the child isn't over 7.

Wow. Think about "you kind of have to keep the other child out of site for this to work" and you realize how out of the Rider-Switch intent that post is!!! You think Disney intended this where you're supposed to hide kids to get extra rides? OMG.

RS is simple. A normal family can wait thru standby and ride a ride. Great.

A family with a baby could not. You would have to wait with group 1.. ride... then have them hold the baby while group 2 waits in line... then rides. You've had to wait twice to ride once.

RS is simply so that after the first set of riders are done, the other riders then go on w the rider switch ticket so they do not have to wait a second time.

It is not about leveraging fast passes to get more rides. You are so manipulating the system if you do. Some CM's actually enforce the rule, and ppl are calling them "rogue" CM's. Crazy!

This is like being mad at a cop for giving you a ticket for speeding. YOU were still the one speeding. He's right, you're not.

None of this is in any way unclear. The policy states one party must wait thru the regular queue.

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/guest-services/rider-switch/

 

[skittlesrock]

Wow. Think about "you kind of have to keep the other child out of site for this to work" and you realize how out of the Rider-Switch intent that post is!!! You think Disney intended this where you're supposed to hide kids to get extra rides? OMG.

I didn't write that and I didn't understand it myself.. All I was doing was trying to get information on how to do fastpasses with small children.. I haven't been to Disney in 15 years! I've racked my brain and made several changes to my fastpasses. I don't want to go against the rules or fight a CM, but I want to get the same benefit as other people are getting. I will change my fastpasses on the fly if I have to but for now I will keep them set up this way

 

[MrInfinity]

Wow. Think about "you kind of have to keep the other child out of site for this to work" and you realize how out of the Rider-Switch intent that post is!!! You think Disney intended this where you're supposed to hide kids to get extra rides? OMG.

I didn't write that and I didn't understand it myself.. All I was doing was trying to get information on how to do fastpasses with small children.. I haven't been to Disney in 15 years! I've racked my brain and made several changes to my fastpasses. I don't want to go against the rules or fight a CM, but I want to get the same benefit as other people are getting. I will change my fastpasses on the fly if I have to but for now I will keep them set up this way

You use Fast Passes with children the same way you'd use Fast Passes without. Some of you hold the baby, the others ride with their Fast Passes. When they're done they hold the baby and the others ride with their Fast Passes.

Everyone rode fast, exactly the number of times they had Fast Passes for.

Rider Switch is not used at all, because nobody is having to wait thru the regular queue while someone else sits w the baby for an hour.

 

[chekhovgirl]

So is what you're saying that it's not allowed to get a rider swap upon using a fast pass? I know that we did that when we rode TT, because we only rode it because we were gifted fast passes. Just went to the line an asked for rider swap. We weren't trying to fool anybody out of anything. I'm confused.

 

[MrInfinity]

So is what you're saying that it's not allowed to get a rider swap upon using a fast pass? I know that we did that when we rode TT, because we only rode it because we were gifted fast passes. Just went to the line an asked for rider swap. We weren't trying to fool anybody out of anything. I'm confused.

Correct, you are not supposed to get one like that. See here...

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/gu.../rider-switch/

 

[Angel Ariel]

Correct, you are not supposed to get one like that. See here...

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/gu.../rider-switch/

We have always used RS in conjunction with FP. We have never hid a child or anything of the sort. The CMs have never even asked for (much less required) a FP from the set of riders who used the Rider Swap (even when the first set did use a FP, and the second set rode immediately upon their return).

 

[skittlesrock]

We have always used RS in conjunction with FP. We have never hid a child or anything of the sort. The CMs have never even asked for (much less required) a FP from the set of riders who used the Rider Swap (even when the first set did use a FP, and the second set rode immediately upon their return).

yea I don't know why so many people are saying yes and no.. I've even heard it this way on podcasts!! so for someone to say you can't do it this way is prolly a troll..hehe