Uncomfortable Ads

[ChrisFL]

Sex isn't dirty. Prostitution is degrading to women. Using words that refer to prostitution as a "cute way to say glitter it up" is assinine. Prostitution is an act of a desperate woman and should not be "glittered" up.

But that has nothing to do with prostitution

 

[aprilgail2]

The meaning of the word Pimp has evolved. While a lot of you (generic you) may not like it, the fact is that it now means cool, tricked out, hot etc. Therefore the teacher can't tell the child they are using the word incorrectly or inapproprately, because the child wasn't. Things used to be "Cool", then they were "Hot", now they are "Pimp".

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My daughters is in 3rd grade and all I hear form the kids is "look how I pimped my book cover/folder" referring to how each of them decorated their book covers or folders- no big deal IM- doesn't offend me at all.

 

[Aisling]

I know that pimp has a new meaning these days, but I don't like it. My kids are older, but when they use that word, I put a stop to it. Times are changing, but that doesn't mean I have to go along with everything.

About a year ago, the teens were getting into calling their girlfriends their "bit****". They thought it was the coolest thing. Thank goodness that fad fizzled out.

 

[ilisao]

It's a word. If you don't want your child using it, tell them. Because when it come down to "forming and shaping" children, that is your job first and foremost. Teachers teach, parents form, mold and shape.

Couldn't have said it any better. I totally agree.

 

[ilisao]

Okay, I tried to let this go, but I just couldn't do it... talking about personal hygeine products is "very liberal"? Really? This is part of life. And this is the kind of thinking -- that anything that has anything to do with what's under your clothes is "naughty" -- I thought we left behind a loooooonnnngg time ago.If they're really little kids, watching kids programming, those kind of ads won't come on, anyway... And even still, if a tampon ad comes on tv, do kids really ask what it's about? I know I never did, my niece never did, and nor did the kids I was responsible for when I was a nanny.

ok, now my vent is over, too. I'm sorry, I just had to get that out of my system.

Thank you! That has been bothering me as well.

And even if a child does ask about tampons after seeing an ad, well, what's the big deal? My daughter who is 9 has asked about tampons. My 6 year old son knows what they are. The world has kept turning.

 

[imsorry]

Okay, I tried to let this go, but I just couldn't do it... talking about personal hygeine products is "very liberal"? Really? This is part of life. And this is the kind of thinking -- that anything that has anything to do with what's under your clothes is "naughty" -- I thought we left behind a loooooonnnngg time ago.

If they're really little kids, watching kids programming, those kind of ads won't come on, anyway... And even still, if a tampon ad comes on tv, do kids really ask what it's about? I know I never did, my niece never did, and nor did the kids I was responsible for when I was a nanny.

ok, now my vent is over, too. I'm sorry, I just had to get that out of my system.

No, I was talking about the Viagra. Please don't put words in my mouth, I didn't say these things were "naughty". But I am from an older generation, and seeing maxi pads on tv is embarrassing to me when my nephews are in the room. Just because something is a part of life doesn't mean I want to see it while I am eating dinner.

 

[ShesAPirate]

Sex isn't dirty. Prostitution is degrading to women. Using words that refer to prostitution as a "cute way to say glitter it up" is assinine. Prostitution is an act of a desperate woman and should not be "glittered" up.

I wasn't referring to the word pimp at all in my post, so I'm not really sure where this is coming from... read again and you'll see that I was commenting on someone saying personal hygiene ads go "over the line"...

 

[imsorry]

But that has nothing to do with prostitution

So in this new world we are in, Pimp and Prostitute don't go together anymore?

 

[ShesAPirate]

No, I was talking about the Viagra. Please don't put words in my mouth, I didn't say these things were "naughty". But I am from an older generation, and seeing maxi pads on tv is embarrassing to me when my nephews are in the room. Just because something is a part of life doesn't mean I want to see it while I am eating dinner.

Wasn't putting words in your mouth. The way I read it sounded to me like you were talking about both going over the line.

While I can understand that you don't want to see these ads while you're eating dinner, I guess the part I don't understand is the shame. It would be sad to me to see another generation of girls grow up feeling they have something to be embarassed of, simply by virtue of just being a woman. Tampon ads aren't about sex (not that sex is anything to be embarassed of, either - but that would be an entirely new debate, and one at a time is all I can handle ).

*Please note that I used the word "debate" and not "fight"... this is about an exchange of ideas, and I'm interested to hear all sides.

 

[Nikel]

Wasn't putting words in your mouth. The way I read it sounded to me like you were talking about both going over the line.

That's how I read it too....

 

[NY Disney fan]

I hate when people say its the parents and teachers job to "mold and shape" the kids and then everyone around them is acting unsavory and using questionable language. Then when the parents try to shield their kids from these influences, society says, "you're shielding them, let them live in the real world, you're freaks, you're trying to hide from the world." Its a ridiculous cycle!

 

[imsorry]

I'm not looking for a fight or a debate. I am stating how I feel about this. I am entitled to my feelings and thoughts just like you are. I find certain things either inappropriate or embarrassing "to me". You used the words naughty and shame. To be perfectly honest I am not going to defend myself to people who choose to "read into" every word I say.

 

[Aisling]

So in this new world we are in, Pimp and Prostitute don't go together anymore?

They do, especially if the child asks where the word comes from.

"Mommy, why do we say 'pimp my notebook'"?
"Well, sweetie, a pimp is a man who dresses up all fancy with the money he got for being the boss of women who sell their bodies to be used for sexual reasons. So to "pimp" your notebook means to fancy it up, like a pimp is fancied up."

 

[wvjules]

No, I was talking about the Viagra. Please don't put words in my mouth, I didn't say these things were "naughty". But I am from an older generation, and seeing maxi pads on tv is embarrassing to me when my nephews are in the room. Just because something is a part of life doesn't mean I want to see it while I am eating dinner.

Then don't eat dinner in front of the tv.

 

[imsorry]

They do, especially if the child asks where the word comes from.

"Mommy, why do we say 'pimp my notebook'"?
"Well, sweetie, a pimp is a man who dresses up all fancy with the money he got for being the boss of women who sell their bodies to be used for sexual reasons. So to "pimp" your notebook means to fancy it up, like a pimp is fancied up."

 

[NYBlue1]

They do, especially if the child asks where the word comes from.

"Mommy, why do we say 'pimp my notebook'"?
"Well, sweetie, a pimp is a man who dresses up all fancy with the money he got for being the boss of women who sell their bodies to be used for sexual reasons. So to "pimp" your notebook means to fancy it up, like a pimp is fancied up."

Thats exactly the point that some posters are missing, the word can mean that yes, but it has evolved into meaning clean up, look fresh, make something old new, beautify it.

THAT is what they kids are meaning when they say pimp, nobody is arguing about what a pimp is , in TODAYS young culture and just plain culture period this word as EVOLVED into meaning beautify, make pretty.

NOTHING about this has any reference to prostitutes and pimps, its a NEW definition.

You certainly dont have to like it, or let your kids even say it, but to keep arguing its the pimp and prostitute meaning is THE ONLY way to look at this is not excepting cultural changes , its just not the case these days.

If your child asks whats it mean to pimp my notebook, its to make it look cool, its nothing to do with prostitutes and telling your kids that is only going to confuse the heck out of them.

 

[ShesAPirate]

I am stating how I feel about this. I am entitled to my feelings and thoughts just like you are.

I agree with you 100 percent!

 

[rkwells]

I changed my style to Disney Cruise line and I am still getting the "pimp my profile" ad??

 

[disneymom3]

Okay, I tried to let this go, but I just couldn't do it... talking about personal hygeine products is "very liberal"? Really? This is part of life. And this is the kind of thinking -- that anything that has anything to do with what's under your clothes is "naughty" -- I thought we left behind a loooooonnnngg time ago.

If they're really little kids, watching kids programming, those kind of ads won't come on, anyway... And even still, if a tampon ad comes on tv, do kids really ask what it's about? I know I never did, my niece never did, and nor did the kids I was responsible for when I was a nanny.

ok, now my vent is over, too. I'm sorry, I just had to get that out of my system.

It's not that it is dirty or naughty but it is private. Call me crazy but I don't want the whole world knowing about when I have my period. DD has a 13 yo friend who is a boy--well she has several but this one comes to our house. I don't enjoy sitting on the couch with this kid and having to watch a stupid commercial about Have a Happy Period and neither does my DD. (Nor I am sure does her friend! Poor kid lives with just dad so we are the only girl stuff he has to deal with anyway!) I also have a major problem with the underwear ads on TV. I have little boys--do they need to see strange women in their underwear? NO, they don't and I should not have to worry about watching out for it. And yeah, my kids ask about what some commercial is for all the time. Course, that is better than DNiece who was singing Viva Viagra at her little brother's bday party. (Okay, that was kinda funny DSIL did not think so though!)

 

[Aisling]

Thats exactly the point that some posters are missing, the word can mean that yes, but it has evolved into meaning clean up, look fresh, make something old new, beautify it.

That's not how my teen son describes it...as cleaned up, looking fresh, making something old new. He and his friend they described it as snazzing it up, making it "sharp", bad-a**, flashy, standing out in a crowd, etc. he laughed when I used the words "cleaned up" and "fresh". Well, his idea of making it look fresh isn't what I suspect your idea is. His and his friends definition of fresh is "shocking".

I think we're being suckered into the younger idea that pimping your ride has a wholesome meaning, but it does not. The poor youger kids don't have a clue, but the teens know EXACTLY what they mean, and it ain't as innocent as they make us believe it is. And we live in NYC, so I'd say we're in the know as it's VERY common here.