Twin Beds in staterooms?

[tvguy]

I agree, I wonder if most of the rooms will have the 3 upper bunk or if they will have cots available.

Disney staterooms are big, but I don't think a cot would fit.

 

[dismom73]

Speaking from our booking experience on the Dream I know a lot of the rooms have the pull down berth, I think a much larger percentage than on the Wonder and Magic. We have two connecting staterooms for our family of 5 booked on the Dream and both of them have the pull down. We were originally booked in two other rooms and they both had the pull down as well, and we have family traveling in 3 other cabins and they all have the pull down. No one in our group has four people booked in one room (our 5 are split into 2 rooms). I realize this doesn't help the adult travelers that wanted seperate sleeping arrangements (unless they want a top bunk) but it works for us that will be putting our three kids in the connecting room and none of them will have to share a bed (which make for more sleep for mom and dad).

I have slept on the convertable sofa before and found it to be quite comfy. I'm just wondering if they get enough complaints about this on the Dream if they will go back to split beds on the Fantasy.

 

[Buckeye Gal]

Can't comment on how comfy the sofa bed is because my brother got the pleasure of sleeping on it ...I'll have to ask him how comfy that sofa was.

....I have slept on the convertable sofa before and found it to be quite comfy....

I apologize in advance for the quick, slightly response. I've been on the convertible couch in a Cat 7 cabin, and I have to say it was terribly uncomfortable to me. Our room attendant made it up every night with two layers of the "egg crate" mattress toppers to help. It did make a slight difference, but it still wasn't the best for me.

Getting back on track...

I would have to agree with ppiew that it's likely a financial decision. Indeed it is easier and more economical to keep one size of mattress and bedding in inventory. I feel terrible for the room attendants who are going to be addressing the complaints of guests who are surprised of the less flexible room setup.

 

[goofieslonglostsis]

As far as the sofa goes, according to my friend it's possible to make it pretty comfy. Neither of us are "standard", as we both have a chronic illness that causes a lot of pain and requires a lot from the sleeping arrangements so just how comfy or not it is would have to be tried out individually.

We had 6654 booked, which has a queenbed that is NOT able to be split into 2 twins. We didn't know this untill later on and by then 6154 (which does have one, apparently) was booked. Actually, the stateroom hosts (ours and others in that area) were thinking the could split the bed up and tried for like 20 minutes before concluding it was not an option for said bed.

Friend ended up taking the sofa as I could deal with the bed being lower better than her. After some tries, the stateroom host noticed just how important a not-too-dreadfully-painfull sleeping arrangement was for us both, had a and put a regular 'real' matrass on the sofa without pulling the sofa out. That was the most comfy she could get and for her it was a very acceptable option as far as any not-my-own-bed goes.

I seriously doubt there would be enough extra matrasses onboard to do this for large numbers of guests but besides the eggcrates it could be an option to ask for a matrass like you'ld use for a bed that CAN split and use said matrass on the sofa.

 

[niklynn1]

We had 6654 booked, which has a queenbed that is NOT able to be split into 2 twins. We didn't know this untill later on and by then 6154 (which does have one, apparently) was booked. Actually, the stateroom hosts (ours and others in that area) were thinking the could split the bed up and tried for like 20 minutes before concluding it was not an option for said bed.

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I was under the impression that ALL queen beds on the Magic and Wonder were able to be split into twins? I will be on the Wonder next month in cabin 2552. I have requested the beds split. I don't believe this room has a bunk bed, so I sure HOPE it can split to twins!

 

[jdybnsn]

I apologize in advance for the quick, slightly response. I've been on the convertible couch in a Cat 7 cabin, and I have to say it was terribly uncomfortable to me. Our room attendant made it up every night with two layers of the "egg crate" mattress toppers to help. It did make a slight difference, but it still wasn't the best for me.

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I have to agree..... my DS who is thirteen, and skinny as a rake, complained all cruise that the couch bed gave him back ache - one reason we did not book a suite on the Dream, was we would be paying a huge premium, and my DS still would not be sleeping on a "proper" bed.

I hope they change their minds too, about this issue ...or they improve the comfort of the couch bed considerably.

 

[darwinsrule]

There are options. We have a CAT 4A booked for next August. It has the Queen, plus the sofa bed, plus the pull down, plus the wall/murphy bed. Sleeps five which is nice. There are only four of us so unless my wife kicks me out of the Queen we may have to rotate the kids around to use them all

DD6 wants the bunk (she had one this past summer and loved it). The murphy looks like it will block access to the balcony so DD2 may be forced to sleep on the sofa.

 

[KingRichard]

I have to agree..... my DS who is thirteen, and skinny as a rake, complained all cruise that the couch bed gave him back ache - one reason we did not book a suite on the Dream, was we would be paying a huge premium, and my DS still would not be sleeping on a "proper" bed.

I hope they change their minds too, about this issue ...or they improve the comfort of the couch bed considerably.

It says the suites have:

double convertible sofa, single wall pull-down bed in the living room,

1 wall pull-down double bed and 1 wall pull-down single bed in living room

 

[jdybnsn]

It says the suites have:

double convertible sofa, single wall pull-down bed in the living room,

1 wall pull-down double bed and 1 wall pull-down single bed in living room

yep...just the one "proper" bed

...the rest, I assume (and I would love to be wrong), will be the same pull down type beds as in all the other lower cabins.... and I am not holding out much hope that a sofa conversion will be any more comfortable.

 

[kay1864]

I'm just wondering if they get enough complaints about this on the Dream if they will go back to split beds on the Fantasy.

This is highly doubtful. DCL already knows how many complaints they could potentially get, because they already know how what percentage of people have requested twins on the Magic/Wonder. Clearly they have deemed this percentage low enough as to not have split beds on the new ships.

 

[kay1864]

Indeed it is easier and more economical to keep one size of mattress and bedding in inventory.

This may be true for bedding, but not for mattresses. Magic/Wonder have two twin mattresses for every inside and outside stateroom (excluding suites). Dream has one queen mattress for every inside and outside stateroom (excluding suites).

In other words, there's only one "size" of mattress for each ship (excluding suites).

 

[KingRichard]

It does seem strange that they wouldn't have say 100 rooms with 2 beds and charge extra for them?

It really wouldn't cost them much extra, but they will make a killing of those that must have those 2 beds!

 

[kay1864]

I would guess it is all about saving $ without separate mattresses and bedding

That really wasn't DCL's driver. Twin bedding for a small minority of the cabins is not that big an expenditure, plus on the scale DCL is buying (thousands of mattresses), there's not that much difference between buying two twins vs. one queen--especially when you compare it with the cost of large flat-panel TV screens (virtual portholes) in all the inside cabins, the cost of even larger monitors in Animator's Palate, the cost of AquaDuck (initial and ongoing), etc. No, the driver was complaints about "the ridge" and about under-bed storage. The legs from a splittable frame would interfere with that storage.

As has been pointed out before, DCL would not make such a decision without considerable data beforehand. Clearly they have chosen to disregard the small minority requesting twin beds on the new ships.

as well as additional work for the stateroom attendants.

Also minimal. I"m told it takes about 5 minutes or less at the beginning of the cruise--and that for a small number of cabins. Cost to DCL is probably zero; I doubt the attendants get overtime for doing this.

 

[kay1864]

It does seem strange that they wouldn't have say 100 rooms with 2 beds and charge extra for them?

Here's the problem. Let's say they get only 80 requests for twins on a specific voyage. Now you've got 20 cabins (40 people) who want queens just as good as their neighboring cabins, and you've stuck them with the old-style splittable beds, with "the ridge". What's worse, you now have onboard complaints instead of on-the-phone complaints from the people who thought they could reserve twins on the Dream. DCL does not like onboard complaints, because those are spread at dinner, in the bars, etc. Yes, there will be some onboard complaints from people who thought they could get twins, but if DCL is smart they will email those demographics beforehand. Plus a complaint of "I thought I could get twins like on the Magic" isn't going to be as loud (or repeated) as much as "How come my neighbors have a better mattress than I do?"

It really wouldn't cost them much extra, but they will make a killing of those that must have those 2 beds!

And now you've created more cabin categories for DCL, creating more confusion from a cruising public that's already confused by 6A, 6C, 11A, etc. Plus if the prices are too high, it will drive customers to the Wonder/Magic, or to queen beds on the Dream. So no, they wouldn't make a killing.

 

[KingRichard]

Here's the problem. Let's say they get only 80 requests for twins on a specific voyage. Now you've got 20 cabins (40 people) who want queens just as good as their neighboring cabins, and you've stuck them with the old-style splittable beds, with "the ridge". What's worse, you now have onboard complaints instead of on-the-phone complaints from the people who thought they could reserve twins on the Dream. DCL does not like onboard complaints, because those are spread at dinner, in the bars, etc. Yes, there will be some onboard complaints from people who thought they could get twins, but if DCL is smart they will email those demographics beforehand. Plus a complaint of "I thought I could get twins like on the Magic" isn't going to be as loud (or repeated) as much as "How come my neighbors have a better mattress than I do?"


And now you've created more cabin categories for DCL, creating more confusion from a cruising public that's already confused by 6A, 6C, 11A, etc. Plus if the prices are too high, it will drive customers to the Wonder/Magic, or to queen beds on the Dream. So no, they wouldn't make a killing.

I never said anything about splittable beds?

I said 2 beds!

Having only 5-10% of the cabins with 2 beds is no different then hotels!

I was going to get 2 cabins but when I learned(from here thank you) that there would be only 1 bed in the next room there was no point in getting 2 rooms!

Might as well stick them in the bunks if one of them was going to get a bunk anyway.

I bet they will lose a lot of the single friends or family(young and old) that would have cruised but won't now as they won't share a bed or get stuck on the couch!

Yes I'm sure that adding just one more categories is really going to cause so many problems. It will be really difficult to explain that those rooms have 2 beds?

 

[kay1864]

I never said anything about splittable beds?

Same scenario. Actually it's worse. Now you've got unsold cabins.

Bottom line is, DCL can't disappoint the majority of their passengers to please the small minority.

Yes I'm sure that adding just one more categories is really going to cause so many problems.

No, not just one category. You've got twin inside, twin outside, twin balcony, at a minimum. But that's not the big issue; the big one is less flexibility for DCL than you have now, even on the Magic/Wonder.

Permanent twins don't work on the Dream. Splittable beds don't work on the Dream. Once DCL installed all-queens on the Dream, they can't go back. People who absolutely must have twins will stay with the Magic/Wonder.