Trading out for the Grand in Michigan

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Hi all,

We've been using DVC for 3 years now, and was thinking of doing an exchange... To the Grand in Mackinac Michigan

http://www.grandhotel.com/

Has anyone done this, and when is a good time to go?
How far out in advance does one have to plan.

I know exchanges aren't always the best use of points, but we wouldn't need to fly (can drive from ILLinois, saving $600 (3) for plane tickets). and I think breakfast and dinner is included, just need to buy lunch. (Please let me know if that sounds right).

But wanted to know what there is to do. We love swimming, and I'm looking for activities for my DD (6) to play with other girls, and we do NOT like golf, do like horses (thinking of carriage rides).

Any helpful advice would be appreciated.

Thanks, Goldi

And I coud rent points, and pay cash, if that's better...???

just wondering about the Grand.
 
We want to do this some day too. I hope to go one year in June when they have their Lilac festival -- hundreds of varieties and colors of lilacs!!! Of course, I think June is kind of their spring, so it may be a little cooler than July or August.

I think the resort provides 3 meals a day with the price of the room, so no extra food costs.

No cars allowed on this island and I'm not sure there's an awful lot of activities so if you're looking for a more relaxing trip, this would probably be it. I doubt if I would want to stay more than 2 or 3 days as I tend to get tired of doing nothing.
 
Well, there are a lot of horses on the island.

You could walk through town and do some shopping or rent bicycles and explore the island.

I would avoid Fourth of July and Labor Day.

Enjoy the porch on the front of the hotel-it is beautiful!
 
We've done this trade for the Grand Hotel. It is very relaxing, and relatively expensive, pointswise.

Try to avoid a holiday weekend. I would also recommend that you go before mid-September, as it gets cold there.

Remember, you will still have to pay for the ferry ride to / from the island.

Dinner dining is fairly formal, so be sure you plan for this.
 

We were on the island 5 years ago in late August when our kids were 11 and 9 and loved it! We didn't stay at The Grand but saw it on our carriage tour - looked beautiful. We stayed out of town at Mission Point Resort - lots of families and casual atmosphere.

You can visit the fort on the island (this will take up the better part of a day), ride bikes around the perimeter of the island, visit several historic sites, shop (great fudge) & antique stores. The horse carriage tour is great and takes up 3-4 hours, etc. Plenty to keep you busy for a few days. Don't recall any swimming beaches but I'm sure The Grand has a pool. We loved the fact that there are no cars allowed - very relaxing and unique - your daughter (and you) will love it. Just the boat over and leaving your car behind is an adventure! Also, loved waking up to the clip clop of horses on cobblestone instead of cars.

We were only there 3 days and 2 nights - tried to get a third night because we were having such a great time but the whole island was booked other than the very expensive places like the Grand which we couldn't afford! The whole area is very beautiful and historic - loved the Mackinaw Bridge, too. It was one of our favorite family trips (we also visited the upper peninsula area of Michigan) and we will go back someday! Mackinaw City (I believe one of the oldest cities in the U.S.) on the mainland is also a fun area with another fort, concerts, shopping, etc. Have fun!
 
My sister and her husband traded points for a stay at the Grand this past August. They really enjoyed it. They stayed 2 nights and said that was a perfect amount of time for them. Breakfast and dinner are included, but not lunch. Be sure to pack a coat and tie for the men in your party. They are required for dinner. Women are to dress semi-formal. I think that she told me that shorts and jeans are not allowed in the diningroom at anytime. When I talk to her again I will have to ask about a pool. She didn't mention one. My husband and I have always wanted to go, but haven't got there yet. We always loved that movie. "Somewhere in Time." I think that it is funny though because in the movie Christopher Reeves drives up to the hotel in his car, but no cars are allowed on the island.
 
They do have a swimming pool - from the website:

"The magnificent Esther Williams Swimming Pool is a favorite gathering place for guests. The heated, sparkling 500,000 gallon serpentine-shaped pool is ideal for sunning, swimming or just soaking up the beauty of the surrounding gardens. Poolside beverage and food service is also available. You are welcome to enjoy the soothing, healthful benefits of our sauna and 2 whirlpools, located adjacent to the swimming pool facility."

Dresscode:

Grand Hotel has a dress code after 6 p.m. Ladies are attired in their finest and gentlemen are required to wear a coat and necktie in all areas of the hotel.

http://www.grandhotel.com/

You guys were not kidding about expensive - they have a 4BR cottage for $2,850 per night :eek:

thanks
jaysue
 
I'm wondering how much points this trade out would cost?

I'm not sure where to look.

Thanks, everyone. It sounds great....

One last question, since it'll take a day of driving to get there, where is a more affordable place to stay overnight, before we take the Ferry across the next day?

and where do I park the car?

This sounds really neat. When we do it, I'll write up a trip report for others....


Thanks for all the help,
DVCers are the Best! Goldi
 
The Grand Hotel is beautiful. We have stayed there before-paying cash and it is an awesome experience. I love the Island, when you get there you don't want to leave. The kids loved the pool and there are clay tennis courts. Biking around the Island is fun too. You park your car at the ferry dock- there are two ferry locations to leave from, one on each side of the bridge. We cross the bridge just for fun and park on the other side and take the ferry from there.
 
on the website, 80 is the highest....

but can't find the 2004 point schedule.

at any rate, I'm thinking maybe of the last week of August, S-Thursday???

Will it still be warm enough to swim then? Last week of Aug.

Opinions, please.
 
I can tell you about the Grand Hotel.

First, food. Two meals are included in your stay. Breakfast and a five course meal at dinner. Lunch is on your own. Everyone eats in the main dining room. Dinner is fantastic! Make sure you have their signature dessert, the Pecan Ball. A ball of icecream rolled in pecan pieces and covered with hot fudge. The prime rib is excellent. Kids meals consist of Stouffers frozen food, but at least Stouffers is good eating.

Lunch is on your own. You can eat at their cafe, or walk down the hill (or have the glass horse drawn carriage) take you to town. It is about a 10 minute walk. If you just do it one time, you have to walk to town. You see all the back street shops, (the really good shops). You can eat lunch anywhere on Main Street. I HIGHLY recommend that you eat at the French Quarter. It is at the bottom of the hill that the hotel is on, and not in town directly. It is great! The food and spirits are fantastic, and they always have live music. Or head into town and eat at the Pilot House.

The rooms are so quaint. They are all decorated with a main color scheme, but each room in different. The geranium is the theme, and all soaps and shampoos are geranium-ish. I suggest you swipe all of your bathroom items each and every day. If you have a mini-bar...pay for the jar of peanuts and you get to keep the jar with the hotel logo on it.

The hotel has a full day of activities planned if you go in the summer. Crochet, kids games, there is a room just for kids to color and watch tv and do crafts. There is something to do all the time. Tea time, sitting on the porch in rocking chairs having a cocktail.

There is plenty to do on the island. Just walk through the shops, the fort, the butterfly house, rent a horse drawn carriage, talk a hike, walk to the airport and back, fishing at the park, etc.

NOTE: The hotel has a dress code. After 5 pm, men have to be in a jacket and women have to be in a dress or slacks. No exceptions, kids included. (children don't need to be in jackets, but must be dressed nice.)

The hotel is an old wood structure, so it is not as sound proofed as some other hotels, but the TVs are small and there isn't really too much noise at night.

The room keys are the actual old keys. There is one working elevator, but if I were you...take the stairs, The elevator is usually best reserved for those who need it most, and it runs slow and is small.

ANyone and everyone can walk the hill to the hotel. Only registered guests can walk past the checkpoint and up to the doors and on the grounds. Make sure you carry your booklet with you at all times so that you can get back inside if you leave. This is to keep non-paying guest from wandering around, but you will always see a surprised island guest or two not happy about not being able to go inside.

There is absolutely NO TIPPING at this hotel. Period.

You could easily enjoy 4 - 5 days on the island, if you take it easy and enjoy what there is to offer.

My only "gripe" with the hotel: And I will try and say this as delicately as possible. The hotel is designed to give you an "old world" feel. An "old world in the Pre-Civil war" feel. Most waiteres, housekeepers, etc. are from Jamacia, and are wonderfully nice. However, you will notice that the staff is treated a certain way, and it is perfectly acceptable for you to treat them this way as well. I found this atmosphere completely distasteful, but some think it adds to the charm. I don't know how to better explain that to you, but if you have been to the hotel, then you know what I am talking about. We were very nice to our staff, and learned their names and such, and they seemed quite surprised to be treated with such respect. This pervasive attitude is not flagrant, but it cannot be missed. The staff is absolutely charming and there to meet your every whim.

Ask me anything about the hotel and the island. We are there quite a bit, twice a year for a week at a time in fact. So, ask away!!!


P.S. Someone mentioned that there are no cars on the island, and this is true. Despite this fact, a certain Senator put some pork into a bill a few years ago and alloted over $10 million of taxpayer money for road repairs on Mackinac Island. (pronounced Mac-in-naw)
 
What time of the year do you think we should go for great swimming weather, kids activities,

and should we pay cash?

I saw on the Grand's website there is a fourth of July package, for about 1,700, and then if you add before after days, for a week, would run 3,000 tops.

And you get ferry transfers etc with the package. If I use points, have to use the 95 Interval Fee (I think), and is running more like $5,000??? if I do the math right.

I just looked at the school schedule, and last week of Aug, we start school, so that's out, so we're in high season.

Would 4th of July be fun (carnival, fireworks) or just tooo darn crowded?

Opinions please.

Also, do you know of a good jumping off place to spend the night (have a 12 hour drive), and want to spend the night somewhere cheapish, and then take the Ferry over the next morning and check-in.

Also, can you arrive early, and even though room isn't ready, do stuff like at Disney (they hold the room).

From your discription of treatment of the staff, it's a bit backward. I will make an extra effort to be polite, and respectful. Maybe their trying to recreate Gone with the Wind....?

Thanks, Goldi

This planning has been fun for me. Looking forward to the trip.
 
2004 pts schedule:

July 2 to August 21

71 Standard Sun-Thur and 75 Fri Sat
79 Deluxe Lakeside Sun-Thur and 84 Fri Sat

August 22 points drop to up to Oct 1, also June 4 to July 1

54/60
62/69

May 4 to June 3 Oct 2 to Oct 30 (then place closes)

39/45
47/52

Now you all have me thinking of taking the family there in Summer 05

thanks
jaysue
 
In response to some where less expensive to stay the night prior to arrival at the Grand, we stayed in a nice Holiday Inn Express that included a contintal breakfast in Mackinaw City. This is the town where the water shuttles leave from. This town has some nice shops that we enjoyed walking thru one day. I also seem to recall Mackinaw City does fireworks or a laser show either nightly or over the weekends (we were there for a long weekend).

I also remember a Days Inn that looked wonderful right on the water, but I don't rember the exact name. It looked new or recently remodeled. This was also in Mackinaw City.

Have a great trip, I loved Mackinac Island, highly recomend to anyone!
 
Another viewpoint.

I don't really think the Grand Hotel is all the grand. The building is old and it shows. The rooms look "dated" to me. Most of the rooms do not have air conditioning (they do not want to distrub the austitics - room service will bring you a box fan). While walking down some of the hallways you will transcend several different elevations.

I know many people enjoy the Hotel, but I think you should know not everyone does.

The island is a nice vacation spot.
 
We stayed at the Grand Hotel 10-12 years ago. One year it was just my elder son and my husband and they had a smallish room...the kind you find in most older hotels. The next year when it was all five of us, we had a very large room...family room I believe. The view wasn't so great in that room but the space was great. Also, if you want to have breakfast or dinner in your room instead of the dining room, you can do so with no additional charge. We did this for breakfast I think and also had our children have their dinner in the room because at that point only one of them would have enjoyed sitting through the multiple course meal in the dining room. Lots of great programs for different ages of children. One of only a small handful of times our kids were in childrens programs at any hotel. Some really fun things were offered....fort tours, hayrack ride at night, movies, etc..

A new pool must have been built since we were there as the one I remember was not much and was at the bottom of the lawn.

It's great fun being picked up at the ferry dock by the coach from the Grand. You feel like you're stepping into a Jane Austen novel.

I would pay cash rather than points, I think if we go back. This was before DVC for us.
 
mackinac island is our every late summer aug/trip.
we love it up there, although a week would be long for us we usually go for a long weekend. the grand is beautifully, and we never used our points for the trade, because you can get a package deal and sell your points and still have enough money left over for your ferry ride, parking at the boat dock, bike rental(we bring our own bikes) carriage rides, and the fudge shops there must be a fudge shops every 10 stores . the town is small, all in walking distance from the grand hotel all the way to mission point, another great hotel, and one of my favorites. but if you want to explore the whole island then you need to rent bikes.

:sunny:

always wanted to stay up there during the winter, even though alot of places are closed up there, and the mission point no longers stays open during the winter, so we never got a chance to do it
 
If you go over Labor Day the mighty Mackinac Bridge is open to walkers (5 Miles) the morning of Labor Day. Walk is from the north (St. Ignace) to Mackinaw city. Don't go without a Hotel reservation over labor day. Personally, I would try one of the other hotels on Mackinaw Island. The grand is way to stuffy and old for me. My wife worked there a few years back and says nothing good about it. I think today's horse droppings are tomorrow's fudge!! You can check out the movie "somewhere in time" with Christopher Reeves as it was partially filmed at the Grand.
 
I have DVC concierge ressies for the Grand Hotel, Oct 15-18. One of you mentioned how cold it gets. Exactly how cold does it get and how soon?
 
Originally posted by tvwalsh
I have DVC concierge ressies for the Grand Hotel, Oct 15-18. One of you mentioned how cold it gets. Exactly how cold does it get and how soon?

It all depends on mother nature. It could be cold and snowy or it could be sunny and 60. It can drop below freezing anytime after Labor Day.
 











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