Too many "Please don't flame me" openings.

[bavaria]

The DVC boards are nothing compared to the community boards and even the transportation board can even take a nasty turn on occasion

To offer a different perspective, I disagree with what you have posted. I stopped posting most places on this website except for the Transportation Board, because there is no emotion involved in transportation, just facts.

Yet many people seem to want to hear something other than facts and truth, and get offended with the answers they are given. I no longer get involved in emotional debates and tend to post in a straightforward manner.

Apparently this makes me a 'mean' poster. I just don't get emotionally involved here anymore. I would think that sharing facts rather than getting dramatic about something is useful, but apparently not everyone appreciates facts.

Oh, and I take great exception to your post, poster #3 on this thread!

 

[Dean]

Apparently this makes me a 'mean' poster. I just don't get emotionally involved here anymore. I would think that sharing facts rather than getting dramatic about something is useful, but apparently not everyone appreciates facts.

Welcome to the club. I try to stay out of the emotions but some do take it personally. For example, say someone says they stay in the room past checkout purposefully and you post that staying in the room past checkout in not appropriate without addressing the person directly. You've addressed the behavior but not the person and you didn't editorialize. IMO, that is the appropriate line to draw but apparently many think you should keep your opinions to yourself if it disagrees with what someone posts. Or someone posts they don't like a given resort, owners at that resort take it as resort bashing. For many, DVC is a VERY emotional issue.

 

[dudelydude]

Hey Chris... not flaming you, but I would like to offer some of my perspective. You're basically lecturing people, many with many thousands and tens of thousands of posts, and many of whom have been members for many years before I or you ever even heard of the DISboards. I wouldn't try to tell these core members how to best act on these boards any more than I would try to tell them how to raise their children. At least not until I have 5 digits in my post count.

You should have kept your perspective and your entire post. As much as you felt the need to bring your opinion to this thread, the OP has just as much of a right to post what he wants here as long as it falls within the DIS guidelines. And how did you interpret the OP to be speaking only to DIS veterans with all of these thousands of posts? While I ALWAYS yield to the people that I know to be the more experienced DIS'ers, the amount of posts that I have or the OP has, means nothing. Are you REALLY going to pull rank because you have 4000+ posts and I have 200+ posts? Through a total fluke, I lost my original DIS screen name, for which I had over 3000 posts...qty of posts means nothing. Get real.

Dudelydude... I just looked back at 8 threads concerning the very issue. I did not find one that had the OP getting torched. However, there were times when the follow-ups got into it with each other. It happens. It also happens that people TROLL and start these threads of a sensitive or passionate nature and then watch it for fun. It happens all the time.

You went back 8 threads, huh? Researcher by trade, are ya? Here's a link from October 16th, which isn't so far off and does contain some flaming on the SSR resale issue...

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1982795

...I don't know why you felt the need to second guess me. I have no reason to lie about something like this.

All-in-all I find these boards entertaining and informative. If it were only the latter I probably wouldn't be posting this response. The mods do a good job and the community does a good job of policing inappropriate behavior.

I really hate to sound volatile here, but your post is exactly the kind of thing that provokes and fosters negative posting.

Good Day.

 

[theoarn]

Actually I don't think that I have seen to many "Please don't flame me" threads.

 

[Laxmom]

Some very good points made on this thread! Wouldn't it be easier to just ignore the annoying post than to make a point of being hostile? Life it too short and I believe in picking your battles. Not everything is worth a fight.

To quote a famous Disney movie, "If you can't say somethin' nice......." Many times I have hit that back button instead of post.

And I was actually wondering why there were so many SSR resales.

 

[Deb & Bill]

I really hate to sound volatile here, but your post is exactly the kind of thing that provokes and fosters negative posting.

Good Day.

Ouch,dudelydude, Rob is one of the nicest folks on the boards. Maybe you read something between the lines that I didn't, but I don't think Rob had any intention of getting your goat.

 

[Laxmom]

But I did! Rob starts out by saying that Dudelydude is lecturing....and then lectures. I see Dudelydude's point.

But then, that is exactly what this thread is about! See how easy it is for a thread to turn?

I also know people who won't post anymore and several that won't venture out of certain boards. The Dis has so much to offer. It is a shame.

 

[eliza61]

The ones that start out with please don't flame me, usually are people who are stating the fact that they intend to break the rules and want some confirmation that others have broken the same rule. Whether it's the "my child is three/four, but looks two" or "we are having seven people stay in our room at All Stars Movies" or "I'm getting such a good deal on the partially used tickets". Most of the time they already know what they are planning on doing is wrong, but we need to look the other way because they are special.

That's what I thought also Deb,
It's funny I find the DVC boards a lot more friendly. Maybe because there seems to be a regular cast of "characters" here, sort of a comfort level. I don't see too many "please don't flame" threads here I think because we are "old heads" to the world. Very many of us have been around the block a time or 2 so we know what works for us, what doesn't work and what's allowed.

I find the resort & theme park boards way more negative, maybe not in tone but definitely in what I would call whining. I use to love playing there but if I read one more complaint because some one did not get a towel animal or a free upgrade or a free birthday cake, I'll scream.

 

[dudelydude]

Ouch,dudelydude, Rob is one of the nicest folks on the boards. Maybe you read something between the lines that I didn't, but I don't think Rob had any intention of getting your goat.

You may actually be helping me with my point a bit, Deb. You see, you know Rob to be a nice guy as you have read his posts. Even with all of his posts, I cannot recall reading one, so I don't know him beyond this post (and I can easily say that I have read thousands - maybe tens of thousands of posts). Do you think he really knows the OP enough to step in here with his opinion and lecture him on not having enough posts to have an opinion? And then trying to contradict me when I have hard proof.

Look, I know it is my fault that I feel the need to defend people when I see they are being picked on...I should probably stop that as everyone here can take care of themselves. AND, quite frankly, the original post didn't even make sense to me as I have only seen 1 or 2 "Don't flame me," posts in the last couple of months. But back to my response to you, just do me a favor and wipe away your memory of Rob and read his post as if it was the first...it's passive agressive and condescending.

Off my soapbox now. I agree that life is too short and also agree that one can be more of a defender if they just pass right by the negativity and don't fuel the flame...pun unintended.

 

[Mike©]

My turn, My turn !!!!!!!!!

What bothers me is off topic posts in the wrong forums.
( like this one belongs on the Community Board as it's not about DVC what so ever ).

I'm sure if we all look hard enough, we can find fault in just about anything. Point is why do people look so hard???

 

[DisDaydreamer]

But I did! Rob starts out by saying that Dudelydude is lecturing....and then lectures. I see Dudelydude's point.

But then, that is exactly what this thread is about! See how easy it is for a thread to turn?

I also know people who won't post anymore and several that won't venture out of certain boards. The Dis has so much to offer. It is a shame.

Actually, I started out by saying Budshark was lecturing. And I regret using that word because it is a stronger word than I should of used. I apologize for that. I think enlightening would have been a better word. And that I personally wouldn't (being new to the community) go about enlightening the existing members on how to conduct their board.

A point of example... I have seen many times Dean get accused of flaming and/or being overly negative, simply because he is so to the point and honest. If he thinks you're not a good fit for DVC he says it. I could see how a new comer could feel the urge to tell Dean he needs to be more compasionate or not so negative, but Dean's been here for ever, he helps people in his way. I am pretty sure the people that know Dean wouldn't even think of suggesting he try communicating differently.

DUDE... you have provided a great example of how things happen here. I try to choose my words carefully (did a poor job w/Budshark) and I tried explain to you that there are many threads on this topic and I didn't find the OP getting torched in the bunch I looked at. You took this as an insult and did exactly what you were complaining I was doing and FLAMED me outright and blatently. This is how it happens. Feelings and passion cause us sometimes to react rather than respond.

I am sorry you don't recall ever reading one of my posts... that baffles me because I post an average of 5 times a day and I only post on the DVC boards. I am sorry if you felt I insulted you... I didn't intend to.

Ok.... Sorry if I was cause of this thread going downhill. I'm done.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

Actually, I started out by saying Budshark was lecturing. And I regret using that word because it is a stronger word than I should of used. I apologize for that. I think enlightening would have been a better word. And that I personally wouldn't (being new to the community) go about enlightening the existing members on how to conduct their board.

A point of example... I have seen many times Dean get accused of flaming and/or being overly negative, simply because he is so to the point and honest. If he thinks you're not a good fit for DVC he says it. I could see how a new comer could feel the urge to tell Dean he needs to be more compasionate or not so negative, but Dean's been here for ever, he helps people in his way. I am pretty sure the people that know Dean wouldn't even think of suggesting he try communicating differently.

DUDE... you have provided a great example of how things happen here. I try to choose my words carefully (did a poor job w/Budshark) and I tried explain to you that there are many threads on this topic and I didn't find the OP getting torched in the bunch I looked at. You took this as an insult and did exactly what you were complaining I was doing and FLAMED me outright and blatently. This is how it happens. Feelings and passion cause us sometimes to react rather than respond.

I am sorry you don't recall ever reading one of my posts... that baffles me because I post an average of 5 times a day and I only post on the DVC boards. I am sorry if you felt I insulted you... I didn't intend to.

Ok.... Sorry if I was cause of this thread going downhill. I'm done.

Hey Rob, I've got a used flame suit you can wear if it gets too hot in here!! I've been a good girl these days.....I have no opinion, that keeps me nice and cool!

 

[Budshark]

Hey Chris... not flaming you, but I would like to offer some of my perspective. You're basically lecturing people, many with many thousands and tens of thousands of posts, and many of whom have been members for many years before I or you ever even heard of the DISboards. I wouldn't try to tell these core members how to best act on these boards any more than I would try to tell them how to raise their children. At least not until I have 5 digits in my post count.

I was staying out... but I guess I'll respond a bit.

I strongly disagree with your assessment. The # of posts is insignificant. I can go run up a post count as high as I want... it adds nothing to the value of my post. The content of my post is what matters - period.

I can either be helpful, understanding, inciteful, spiteful, rude, flippant, or threadjack. I can be attacking, comforting, factual, or anything else. The number of previous posts means nothing.

I posted my history for a bit of perspective. I am very well versed in message boards, communities, etc. I am still learning about DVC as having been a member for only about a year. I use this site for information - however, and I stand by my earlier comments, I find the board in general to be one of the least accomodating that I frequent. Which is one of the reasons I have a "measely" 200 posts. There are wonderful people here. There are caring people here. There are also a large group of people, with a lot of posts, that feel the need to jump in and "dish it out" every chance they get.

Call it lecturing, call it what you want. Its my viewpoint - which may or may not mean something to people here. There's a lot of opinionated people here that feel the need to speak there opinion anytime they can - even when it adds nothing. They have a lot of posts though...

Chris

 

[Budshark]

Ok.... Sorry if I was cause of this thread going downhill. I'm done.

First off - my above post gives my viewpoint. Secondly though, thank you for your later comments and I don't think you are the cause of the thread going downhill and you shouldn't be done.

 

[Kuzco]

Wouldn't it be easier to just ignore the annoying post than to make a point of being hostile?

I agree.

 

[CarolAnnC]

Since we do not allow argumentative posts, insults, sarcasm nor off topic posts, this thread is now closed.