Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes are divorcing.

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As far as the timeline with Suri's birth...Katie was dating and engaged to Chris Klein for five years. They broke up around what, March? Then she dated Josh Hartnett for a bit after that split. And then she's all of sudden with Tom, engaged and pregnant by the end of April? The timing is quite convienent, isn't it.;)
 
As far as the timeline with Suri's birth...Katie was dating and engaged to Chris Klein for five years. They broke up around what, March? Then she dated Josh Hartnett for a bit after that split. And then she's all of sudden with Tom, engaged and pregnant by the end of April? The timing is quite convienent, isn't it.;)

I remember hearing talk about that when she was first with Tom and pregnant.
 
Think she's got Nicole Kidman on speed dial right now? Suri was born before they got married. She was supposedly born in April and they were married the next Nov.

And, by the way, Happy Birthday (a few days early), Tom.:rotfl:
 
I do agree with everyone I think Tom is a nut job but I was surprised I thought she was happy being brainwashed:confused3
 

Wow! I had to google him in images as I did not know who he was or what he looks like. Then googled Suri and seeing both pics is just a huge "wow" from me! She resembles Katie in many ways but boy, does she look like Josh Hartnett!

Yes, WOW!! I had to look up photos of Josh Hartnett as well. Josh and Suri the same eyes, same nose, same left tilt to their head.

Wish I knew how to cut and paste some photos here.
 
I think this thread is hilarious with all of the conspiracy theories and silly gossip about Suri's parentage.

They are all grown adults, with a lot of money and resources, so why in the world would they lie about Suri's father? She does look like Tom, IMHO.

I can see no possible rational reason why they would fake that part of the equation...? Do people think Katie found out about her pregnancy by another man while they were dating, and her and Tom made an arrangement? Do people think that they made a monetary/legal arrangement with the 'real' father? I can't imagine the purpose of any of that? Tom already has 2 children, so I'm not following?

Regarding her divorce filing, I find it very interesting that she filed in New York and asked for sole custody. That is quite a statement to make about whether she believes that Tom is competent to take care of Suri, as if they were parting on more amicable terms, then she would have filed for joint custody.

Tiger
 
I remember hearing talk about that when she was first with Tom and pregnant.

I remember the intereview where they said they weren't having sex, were going to wait till they got married, then Whamo, she suddenly found out she was pregnant. :rolleyes1


I do agree with everyone I think Tom is a nut job but I was surprised I thought she was happy being brainwashed:confused3

I think she thought her acting career would be further along after marrying Tom. No, she became more of a celebrity, but she wasn't really offered any more parts than she would have anyway.

Nicole actually had talent & that's why her career flourished. And her work got better after she was dumped by Tom. :thumbsup2
 
I think this thread is hilarious with all of the conspiracy theories and silly gossip about Suri's parentage.

They are all grown adults, with a lot of money and resources, so why in the world would they lie about Suri's father? She does look like Tom, IMHO.

I can see no possible rational reason why they would fake that part of the equation...? Do people think Katie found out about her pregnancy by another man while they were dating, and her and Tom made an arrangement? Do people think that they made a monetary/legal arrangement with the 'real' father? I can't imagine the purpose of any of that? Tom already has 2 children, so I'm not following?

Regarding her divorce filing, I find it very interesting that she filed in New York and asked for sole custody. That is quite a statement to make about whether she believes that Tom is competent to take care of Suri, as if they were parting on more amicable terms, then she would have filed for joint custody.

Tiger

Many years ago (pre-Katie) Mimi Rogers said Tom was sterile. His two children with Nicole were adopted. Therefore, there was a lot of suspicion about whether Tom was the biological father.

Add to that the growing/shrinking belly Katie had while pregnant, the weirdness about the birth (checked into the hospital in the dead of night, then left a few hours later), and the fact that no one saw Suri for a few months --- just made it all seem fishy.

http://www.psychoticstate.net/2008_04_01_archive.html
 
I think this thread is hilarious with all of the conspiracy theories and silly gossip about Suri's parentage.

They are all grown adults, with a lot of money and resources, so why in the world would they lie about Suri's father? She does look like Tom, IMHO.

I can see no possible rational reason why they would fake that part of the equation...? Do people think Katie found out about her pregnancy by another man while they were dating, and her and Tom made an arrangement? Do people think that they made a monetary/legal arrangement with the 'real' father? I can't imagine the purpose of any of that? Tom already has 2 children, so I'm not following?

Regarding her divorce filing, I find it very interesting that she filed in New York and asked for sole custody. That is quite a statement to make about whether she believes that Tom is competent to take care of Suri, as if they were parting on more amicable terms, then she would have filed for joint custody.

Tiger

Tom Cruise is sterile. He has no biological children.

Other actresses (Scarlett Johannson being one) said she was approached on the sly by Cruise's "people" about entering into a contractual relationship with him. You can imagine what her reply to that was. :laughing:

Good for Katie. I hope she's able to get Suri away from Scientology and away from Cruise. And if she needs to out Tom Cruise while doing it, all the better.
 
Many years ago (pre-Katie) Mimi Rogers said Tom was sterile. His two children with Nicole were adopted. Therefore, there was a lot of suspicion about whether Tom was the biological father.

Add to that the growing/shrinking belly Katie had while pregnant, the weirdness about the birth (checked into the hospital in the dead of night, then left a few hours later), and the fact that no one saw Suri for a few months --- just made it all seem fishy.

http://www.psychoticstate.net/2008_04_01_archive.html

Don't forget, Katie's mom came to visit & stay with her several weeks before the baby was due. But, during the actual time period around Suri's birth, her Mom was nowhere around. She had gone back home. Didn't even show up to check on Katie & the baby.

All of this is well documented in our Suri Cruise thread. Too bad it got locked after being around for a few years. I guess someone forgot to put the word "allegedly" into one of their posts - as you MUST use that word in discussing anything anti-Scientology or anti-Tom Cruise. :(
 
As for what will likely be a NASTY battle, just keep in mind that Scientologists can and will use EVERYTHING a member ever told them during an "auditing" session in court against them. They're well known to badger auditors (verging on verbal abuse) until the auditor finally "admits" (some people will admit to stuff they never did or thought about just to get the auditor to stop badgering them)to whatever trauma, drama, stress or evil thought they've had.

I REALLY hope Katie didn't say anything nutty.
 
I think this thread is hilarious with all of the conspiracy theories and silly gossip about Suri's parentage.

They are all grown adults, with a lot of money and resources, so why in the world would they lie about Suri's father? She does look like Tom, IMHO.

I can see no possible rational reason why they would fake that part of the equation...? Do people think Katie found out about her pregnancy by another man while they were dating, and her and Tom made an arrangement? Do people think that they made a monetary/legal arrangement with the 'real' father? I can't imagine the purpose of any of that? Tom already has 2 children, so I'm not following?

Regarding her divorce filing, I find it very interesting that she filed in New York and asked for sole custody. That is quite a statement to make about whether she believes that Tom is competent to take care of Suri, as if they were parting on more amicable terms, then she would have filed for joint custody.

Tiger
No cult member can be a good parent and Scientology is as bad as the family was. L Ron hubbard was a fantasist who made a cult and people have died because of it. Including the mother of a schizophrenic son who stabbed his mother because these idiots don't believe in mental illnesses. I don't usually say this but Suri needs to be kept far away Dom Tom.
 
As for what will likely be a NASTY battle, just keep in mind that Scientologists can and will use EVERYTHING a member ever told them during an "auditing" session in court against them. They're well known to badger auditors (verging on verbal abuse) until the auditor finally "admits" (some people will admit to stuff they never did or thought about just to get the auditor to stop badgering them)to whatever trauma, drama, stress or evil thought they've had.

I REALLY hope Katie didn't say anything nutty.

Ah yes. :( That might be used against her to prove she is an unfit parent for Suri.

Meanwhile, believing that all Sci's are descended from the planet Xenon doesn't make them crazy. :rolleyes:
 
Ah yes. :( That might be used against her to prove she is an unfit parent for Suri.

Meanwhile, believing that all Sci's are descended from the planet Xenon doesn't make them crazy. :rolleyes:

No no...it was the evil overlord XENU...not the planet Xenon. :lmao: And yeah, they so crrrrrrrrrrrazy!
 
Many years ago (pre-Katie) Mimi Rogers said Tom was sterile. His two children with Nicole were adopted. Therefore, there was a lot of suspicion about whether Tom was the biological father.

Add to that the growing/shrinking belly Katie had while pregnant, the weirdness about the birth (checked into the hospital in the dead of night, then left a few hours later), and the fact that no one saw Suri for a few months --- just made it all seem fishy.

http://www.psychoticstate.net/2008_04_01_archive.html

I have never read an article in which she spoke about their marriage at all, much less his ability to procreate. In fact, not much has been said about any of his marriages, so that would lead me to believe that he has made some kind of agreement with the women to keep quiet, perhaps?

Tom Cruise is sterile. He has no biological children.

Other actresses (Scarlett Johannson being one) said she was approached on the sly by Cruise's "people" about entering into a contractual relationship with him. You can imagine what her reply to that was. :laughing:

Good for Katie. I hope she's able to get Suri away from Scientology and away from Cruise. And if she needs to out Tom Cruise while doing it, all the better.

How do you know this? Are you his doctor? That is a rumour, and there are probably only a few people who actually know whether that is true or not.

It's rather sad that people assume that just because people don't have biological children, that they must be sterile.

I find it rather unsettling that people on this thread keep referring to his children with Nicole as his adopted children. Not sure why the way in which those children came into the world is relevant?

Scientology seems to be problematic, but she dated him, and then got pregnant and married him. Why? Some believe she was forced, contractual relationship, etc. All of that is rather disgusting considering that a child was brought into the world. What does that say about Katie then if in fact they entered into a contractual relationship. Not really sure I get the whole point of that either? Why would Tom Cruise need to buy a wife or have another child? I'm missing something...

No cult member can be a good parent and Scientology is as bad as the family was. L Ron hubbard was a fantasist who made a cult and people have died because of it. Including the mother of a schizophrenic son who stabbed his mother because these idiots don't believe in mental illnesses. I don't usually say this but Suri needs to be kept far away Dom Tom.

If that is the case, then why did Katie have a child with him in the first place? She is 6 years old, and Tom has had some influence on her up to this point, so it is intriguing as to why all of a sudden Katie has filed for divorce? It is good that she is taking steps to remove her daughter from potential danger (I don't know anywhere near enough about Scientology to make a qualified judgment), but what about the last 6 years?

Tiger
 
Good for her. I always liked Katie Holmes and never understood why she got involved with Tom.

DH's uncle is a scientologist. He's a special guy. We once visited their house and I asked if they had any aspirin since I had a migraine - he suggested that I go outside and focus on the positive energy radiating from an oak tree. He said that would cure it.

It didn't, and I felt like a fool stood in their front yard staring at a tree.
 
I have never read an article in which she spoke about their marriage at all, much less his ability to procreate. In fact, not much has been said about any of his marriages, so that would lead me to believe that he has made some kind of agreement with the women to keep quiet, perhaps?

Actually there was an old printed magazine article in which Mimi said it. She posed for some rather risque photos to shed her matronly image of being in the shadow of Tom's wife. It might have been Vanity Fair, or something like that. And I vaguely recall seeing a TV interview where she claimed the same thing.
 
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