To Infinity and Beyond - Becoming a Better DopeyBadger (Comments Welcome)
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Jules76126
Practically Perfect in Every Way
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Best of luck!
Best of luck!
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DopeyBadger
Imagathoner
- Joined
- Oct 15, 2015
The Non-Cancelled Marathon Weather Report - 8 days to go!
Background
Start at 7am and end at 10am
4/21/21 - T+D of 82-90, 60% cloudy, 24% chance of rain, 9mph WNW wind
4/22/21 - T+D of 86-98, 44% cloudy, 11% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/23/21 - T+D of 84-95, 43% cloudy, 18% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
Holding steady.
Background
Start at 7am and end at 10am
4/21/21 - T+D of 82-90, 60% cloudy, 24% chance of rain, 9mph WNW wind
4/22/21 - T+D of 86-98, 44% cloudy, 11% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/23/21 - T+D of 84-95, 43% cloudy, 18% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
Holding steady.
DopeyBadger
Imagathoner
- Joined
- Oct 15, 2015
The Non-Cancelled Marathon Weather Report - 7 days to go!
Background
Start at 7am and end at 10am
4/21/21 - T+D of 82-90, 60% cloudy, 24% chance of rain, 9mph WNW wind
4/22/21 - T+D of 86-98, 44% cloudy, 11% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/23/21 - T+D of 84-95, 43% cloudy, 18% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/24/21 - T+D of 85-96, 51% cloudy, 10% chance of rain, 10mph WSW wind
Holding steady.
Background
Start at 7am and end at 10am
4/21/21 - T+D of 82-90, 60% cloudy, 24% chance of rain, 9mph WNW wind
4/22/21 - T+D of 86-98, 44% cloudy, 11% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/23/21 - T+D of 84-95, 43% cloudy, 18% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/24/21 - T+D of 85-96, 51% cloudy, 10% chance of rain, 10mph WSW wind
Holding steady.
DopeyBadger
Imagathoner
- Joined
- Oct 15, 2015
The Non-Cancelled Marathon Weather Report - 6 days to go!
Background
Start at 7am and end at 10am
4/21/21 - T+D of 82-90, 60% cloudy, 24% chance of rain, 9mph WNW wind
4/22/21 - T+D of 86-98, 44% cloudy, 11% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/23/21 - T+D of 84-95, 43% cloudy, 18% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/24/21 - T+D of 85-96, 51% cloudy, 10% chance of rain, 10mph WSW wind
4/25/21 - T+D of 85-97, 36% cloudy, 7% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
Holding steady.
Background
Start at 7am and end at 10am
4/21/21 - T+D of 82-90, 60% cloudy, 24% chance of rain, 9mph WNW wind
4/22/21 - T+D of 86-98, 44% cloudy, 11% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/23/21 - T+D of 84-95, 43% cloudy, 18% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/24/21 - T+D of 85-96, 51% cloudy, 10% chance of rain, 10mph WSW wind
4/25/21 - T+D of 85-97, 36% cloudy, 7% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
Holding steady.
shellott-hill
A Dopey runner
- Joined
- Aug 21, 2009
03:02:17
Crush it!
Crush it!
DopeyBadger
Imagathoner
- Joined
- Oct 15, 2015
1 Weeks to go + HIM Build Mid Volume Cycling + (LIIFT 4 + McMillan Core/Legs)
4/19/21 - M - OFF
4/20/21 - T - Pettit-1 (60 min; 28 TSS) + LIIFT4-Shoulders
4/21/21 - W - 50 min Run @ Easy (HAT #1)
4/22/21 - R - 40 min Run @ Easy (HAT #2) + Truuli-1 (45 min; 45 TSS)
4/23/21 - F - Whorl-1 (75 min; 38 TSS) + LIIFT4-Chest/Back
4/24/21 - Sa - Pioneer-3 (60 min; 48 TSS) + Brick 15 min Run @ M Tempo
4/25/21 - Su - 60 min @ Long Run
Total Run Miles - 19.7 miles
Total Run Time - 2:45 hours
Total Run TSS - x TSS
Total Biking Time - 4:00 hours
Total Biking TSS - 159 TSS
Total Strength Time - 0:51 hours
Total Strength TSS - x TSS
Total Training Time - 7:37 hours
Total TSS - x TSS
Tuesday
Got a text while at work that G had thrown up and had a fever. We got her tested for COVID and it came back negative. Given her experience with the sickness, I'm confident in the negative test results. She bounced back relatively quickly. And no one else seems to have gotten sick either.
The ride was easy. Pettit -1 is an hour of light Endurance work spent mostly between 50-60% FTP.
Afterwards, instead of a McMillan legs workout, I did a LIIFT4 shoulders workout.
Wednesday
Easy run day.
Conditions -
Overcast, Wind 11mph to 17mph
Start: Temp+Dew = 44°F + 21°F; FL - 39°F
End: Temp+Dew = 44°F + 21°F; FL - 39°F
The temp for my race was still debatable. So I went with heat acclimation training and overdressed. Right from the start, practically everything hurt. My right ankle, my left ankle, my hip, my calves, my achilles. Ughh... taper madness. I got through it though. It was 5.4 miles in 50 min at 9:20 pace and HR of 126.
Thursday
Super early morning. Dizzy got me up at 3:45am. Out the door by 4:35am.
Conditions -
Clear, Wind 5mph to 10mph
Start: Temp+Dew = 27°F + 23°F; FL - 21°F
End: Temp+Dew = 27°F + 23°F; FL - 21°F
Did HAT again, but the weather compensated by dropping even further. Felt better than the day prior. Although towards the end my right hamstring was catching a little bit. Nothing too serious though. In all it was 4.4 miles, 40 min, 9:10 pace, and HR of 126.
That evening I did a moderate/peaking cycling ride. Truuli -1 is a priming workout meant to precede any endurance event and is recommended 24 hours prior to your event. This version includes 2x4-minute steady-state efforts right at FTP followed by 2x90-second efforts between 120-125% FTP. It was easy enough.
Friday
Took the day off for my 36th. Did an easy 75 min ride. Whorl -1 consists of 75 minutes of aerobic Endurance work spent between 50-60% FTP. I noticed the muscle next to the knee was a little sore. I think because my cadence was too high which was causing some hitches in my movement. So I slowed the cadence down a bit. Seem to make things feel better.
Afterwards I did a LIIFT4-Back/Chest workout. Felt good.
Saturday
Nice and short brick day. Started off with a 60 min ride between IM and HIM effort. Pioneer -3 is a 45-minute segment between 70-75% FTP nestled inside of an hour-long workout.
Threw on my running clothes and was out the door.
Conditions -
Mostly Cloudy, Wind 3mph to 5mph
Start: Temp+Dew = 49°F + 41°F; FL - 48°F
End: Temp+Dew = 50°F + 41°F; FL - 48°F
Good practice weather conditions. I was aiming for a 7:00 GAP value. So the first mile should have been around a 6:48 and the second around a 7:23. I ended up running a 6:47 and 7:15. GAP wise I ended up a touch too fast at a 6:58 min/mile. I think that's too quick and unrealistic for race day though. HR seems to agree as well. In all it was 2.2 miles in 15 min at 7:01 pace (6:58 GAP) with HR of 146. Although because it's so short the HR isn't all that useful.
Sunday
Just an easy 60 min long run.
Conditions -
Clear, Wind 9mph to 15mph
Start: Temp+Dew = 35°F + 24°F; FL - 28°F
End: Temp+Dew = 38°F + 22°F; FL - 28°F
For the first few moments I could feel the start of the peak. It felt nice. The feeling didn't last though. The run overall felt good, but not peak good. But that's alright because I've got a whole nother week before I need to hit that peak. Ended up being 7.8 miles, 60 min, 7:42 pace with HR of 143. A little surprised by the HR. That's a little higher than I would have expected, but I'm not terribly concerned. The Garmin VO2max stayed at 57. So given we're a week away now, we can officially say this will be the second highest Garmin VO2max entering a marathon. Highest was 60 the week prior to Dopey 2018 (also the only time I hit 60). So if the VO2max-6 pattern holds, then we're looking at a VDOT of 51 (3:07:30; 7:09 min/mile). That seems reasonable to me and would be a 6.5 min PR if that ends up being the case. My GAP for marathon tempo has been a 7:01, 7:07, and 7:13 at HR of ~148 (historic marathon average).
The HRvPace data is hard to get a read on. This is the most sporadic it's been from a training plan. Usually it follows a nice power best fit line. But this plan has seen a lot of big swings in terms of best fit. I can go from a 9:20 126 to an 8:01 134 in a span of 3 days. One would say a VO2max of 59-60 based on history, and the other says 54-55. So it seems like I'm running really hot and cold based on the day. So I think it's going to be one of those things were I'm not going to really know how race day goes until I get started. I could be low 3s, or I could be >3:14. Especially if I try and aim for low 3s and that's not an appropriate pace for the day. At this moment in time, I'm leaning towards setting a pace cap of 7:10s through about 18-20 miles and then seeing what happens after that.
I had planned for a 15 min paced run on Tuesday, but the temps are suppose to skyrocket into the 80s. I don't want any part of that. I'll play it by ear. Either I'll do a short paced run on Tuesday with a primer cycle + short run on Wednesday, or I'll do an easy cycle on Tues with an even shorter paced run (like 6-7 min) on Wednesday. Not quite sure which yet.
4/19/21 - M - OFF
4/20/21 - T - Pettit-1 (60 min; 28 TSS) + LIIFT4-Shoulders
4/21/21 - W - 50 min Run @ Easy (HAT #1)
4/22/21 - R - 40 min Run @ Easy (HAT #2) + Truuli-1 (45 min; 45 TSS)
4/23/21 - F - Whorl-1 (75 min; 38 TSS) + LIIFT4-Chest/Back
4/24/21 - Sa - Pioneer-3 (60 min; 48 TSS) + Brick 15 min Run @ M Tempo
4/25/21 - Su - 60 min @ Long Run
Total Run Miles - 19.7 miles
Total Run Time - 2:45 hours
Total Run TSS - x TSS
Total Biking Time - 4:00 hours
Total Biking TSS - 159 TSS
Total Strength Time - 0:51 hours
Total Strength TSS - x TSS
Total Training Time - 7:37 hours
Total TSS - x TSS
Tuesday
Got a text while at work that G had thrown up and had a fever. We got her tested for COVID and it came back negative. Given her experience with the sickness, I'm confident in the negative test results. She bounced back relatively quickly. And no one else seems to have gotten sick either.
The ride was easy. Pettit -1 is an hour of light Endurance work spent mostly between 50-60% FTP.
Afterwards, instead of a McMillan legs workout, I did a LIIFT4 shoulders workout.
Wednesday
Easy run day.
Conditions -
Overcast, Wind 11mph to 17mphStart: Temp+Dew = 44°F + 21°F; FL - 39°F
End: Temp+Dew = 44°F + 21°F; FL - 39°F
The temp for my race was still debatable. So I went with heat acclimation training and overdressed. Right from the start, practically everything hurt. My right ankle, my left ankle, my hip, my calves, my achilles. Ughh... taper madness. I got through it though. It was 5.4 miles in 50 min at 9:20 pace and HR of 126.
Thursday
Super early morning. Dizzy got me up at 3:45am. Out the door by 4:35am.
Conditions -
Clear, Wind 5mph to 10mphStart: Temp+Dew = 27°F + 23°F; FL - 21°F
End: Temp+Dew = 27°F + 23°F; FL - 21°F
Did HAT again, but the weather compensated by dropping even further. Felt better than the day prior. Although towards the end my right hamstring was catching a little bit. Nothing too serious though. In all it was 4.4 miles, 40 min, 9:10 pace, and HR of 126.
That evening I did a moderate/peaking cycling ride. Truuli -1 is a priming workout meant to precede any endurance event and is recommended 24 hours prior to your event. This version includes 2x4-minute steady-state efforts right at FTP followed by 2x90-second efforts between 120-125% FTP. It was easy enough.
Friday
Took the day off for my 36th. Did an easy 75 min ride. Whorl -1 consists of 75 minutes of aerobic Endurance work spent between 50-60% FTP. I noticed the muscle next to the knee was a little sore. I think because my cadence was too high which was causing some hitches in my movement. So I slowed the cadence down a bit. Seem to make things feel better.
Afterwards I did a LIIFT4-Back/Chest workout. Felt good.
Saturday
Nice and short brick day. Started off with a 60 min ride between IM and HIM effort. Pioneer -3 is a 45-minute segment between 70-75% FTP nestled inside of an hour-long workout.
Threw on my running clothes and was out the door.
Conditions -
Mostly Cloudy, Wind 3mph to 5mphStart: Temp+Dew = 49°F + 41°F; FL - 48°F
End: Temp+Dew = 50°F + 41°F; FL - 48°F
Good practice weather conditions. I was aiming for a 7:00 GAP value. So the first mile should have been around a 6:48 and the second around a 7:23. I ended up running a 6:47 and 7:15. GAP wise I ended up a touch too fast at a 6:58 min/mile. I think that's too quick and unrealistic for race day though. HR seems to agree as well. In all it was 2.2 miles in 15 min at 7:01 pace (6:58 GAP) with HR of 146. Although because it's so short the HR isn't all that useful.
Sunday
Just an easy 60 min long run.
Conditions -
Clear, Wind 9mph to 15mphStart: Temp+Dew = 35°F + 24°F; FL - 28°F
End: Temp+Dew = 38°F + 22°F; FL - 28°F
For the first few moments I could feel the start of the peak. It felt nice. The feeling didn't last though. The run overall felt good, but not peak good. But that's alright because I've got a whole nother week before I need to hit that peak. Ended up being 7.8 miles, 60 min, 7:42 pace with HR of 143. A little surprised by the HR. That's a little higher than I would have expected, but I'm not terribly concerned. The Garmin VO2max stayed at 57. So given we're a week away now, we can officially say this will be the second highest Garmin VO2max entering a marathon. Highest was 60 the week prior to Dopey 2018 (also the only time I hit 60). So if the VO2max-6 pattern holds, then we're looking at a VDOT of 51 (3:07:30; 7:09 min/mile). That seems reasonable to me and would be a 6.5 min PR if that ends up being the case. My GAP for marathon tempo has been a 7:01, 7:07, and 7:13 at HR of ~148 (historic marathon average).
The HRvPace data is hard to get a read on. This is the most sporadic it's been from a training plan. Usually it follows a nice power best fit line. But this plan has seen a lot of big swings in terms of best fit. I can go from a 9:20 126 to an 8:01 134 in a span of 3 days. One would say a VO2max of 59-60 based on history, and the other says 54-55. So it seems like I'm running really hot and cold based on the day. So I think it's going to be one of those things were I'm not going to really know how race day goes until I get started. I could be low 3s, or I could be >3:14. Especially if I try and aim for low 3s and that's not an appropriate pace for the day. At this moment in time, I'm leaning towards setting a pace cap of 7:10s through about 18-20 miles and then seeing what happens after that.
I had planned for a 15 min paced run on Tuesday, but the temps are suppose to skyrocket into the 80s. I don't want any part of that. I'll play it by ear. Either I'll do a short paced run on Tuesday with a primer cycle + short run on Wednesday, or I'll do an easy cycle on Tues with an even shorter paced run (like 6-7 min) on Wednesday. Not quite sure which yet.
DopeyBadger
Imagathoner
- Joined
- Oct 15, 2015
Steph guess - 2:57:00
Gigi guess - 3:01:26
Gigi guess - 3:01:26
SarahDisney
So ... Yeah
- Joined
- Jul 23, 2014
Belated happy birthday!
I owe you a guess, but I haven't had the time/energy to sit down and do math. When's the deadline for guesses?
I owe you a guess, but I haven't had the time/energy to sit down and do math. When's the deadline for guesses?
DopeyBadger
Imagathoner
- Joined
- Oct 15, 2015
DopeyBadger
Imagathoner
- Joined
- Oct 15, 2015
The Non-Cancelled Marathon Weather Report - 5 days to go!
Background
Start at 7am and end at 10am
4/21/21 - T+D of 82-90, 60% cloudy, 24% chance of rain, 9mph WNW wind
4/22/21 - T+D of 86-98, 44% cloudy, 11% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/23/21 - T+D of 84-95, 43% cloudy, 18% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/24/21 - T+D of 85-96, 51% cloudy, 10% chance of rain, 10mph WSW wind
4/25/21 - T+D of 85-97, 36% cloudy, 7% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/26/21 - T+D of 73-84, 27% cloudy, 1% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
Weather forecast took a big turn today. The T+D dropped by 10-15 and it looks like it may no longer be cloudy. This would be one of my colder marathons to date. But the positioning of the forecast is precarious. The day prior is good temps but high winds. The day after is cloudy, warmer, and moderate winds. So crossing my fingers this particular forecast holds.
Background
Start at 7am and end at 10am
4/21/21 - T+D of 82-90, 60% cloudy, 24% chance of rain, 9mph WNW wind
4/22/21 - T+D of 86-98, 44% cloudy, 11% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/23/21 - T+D of 84-95, 43% cloudy, 18% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/24/21 - T+D of 85-96, 51% cloudy, 10% chance of rain, 10mph WSW wind
4/25/21 - T+D of 85-97, 36% cloudy, 7% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/26/21 - T+D of 73-84, 27% cloudy, 1% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
Weather forecast took a big turn today. The T+D dropped by 10-15 and it looks like it may no longer be cloudy. This would be one of my colder marathons to date. But the positioning of the forecast is precarious. The day prior is good temps but high winds. The day after is cloudy, warmer, and moderate winds. So crossing my fingers this particular forecast holds.
SarahDisney
So ... Yeah
- Joined
- Jul 23, 2014
I did my math. I'm feeling good about this answer. 3:02:58
Whether or not I am extremely wrong ... I hope you have a great race!
Whether or not I am extremely wrong ... I hope you have a great race!
DopeyBadger
Imagathoner
- Joined
- Oct 15, 2015
The Non-Cancelled Marathon Weather Report - 4 days to go!
Background
Start at 7am and end at 10am
4/21/21 - T+D of 82-90, 60% cloudy, 24% chance of rain, 9mph WNW wind
4/22/21 - T+D of 86-98, 44% cloudy, 11% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/23/21 - T+D of 84-95, 43% cloudy, 18% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/24/21 - T+D of 85-96, 51% cloudy, 10% chance of rain, 10mph WSW wind
4/25/21 - T+D of 85-97, 36% cloudy, 7% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/26/21 - T+D of 73-84, 27% cloudy, 1% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/27/21 - T+D of 85-100, 64% cloudy, 7% chance of rain, 12mph SSW wind
Well that didn't last long. The weather forecast snapped back. I'll take the increase in clouds though!
Background
Start at 7am and end at 10am
4/21/21 - T+D of 82-90, 60% cloudy, 24% chance of rain, 9mph WNW wind
4/22/21 - T+D of 86-98, 44% cloudy, 11% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/23/21 - T+D of 84-95, 43% cloudy, 18% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/24/21 - T+D of 85-96, 51% cloudy, 10% chance of rain, 10mph WSW wind
4/25/21 - T+D of 85-97, 36% cloudy, 7% chance of rain, 7mph SSW wind
4/26/21 - T+D of 73-84, 27% cloudy, 1% chance of rain, 6mph SSW wind
4/27/21 - T+D of 85-100, 64% cloudy, 7% chance of rain, 12mph SSW wind
Well that didn't last long. The weather forecast snapped back. I'll take the increase in clouds though!
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