"Tiered Loyalty Program" -- any ideas?

[JimMIA]

I think we should make that lady standing up, and anyone having more than their fare share of points, give 15% of her points each year to others that don't have as many. This will not affect 95% of those in DVC.

The problem with this half-measure, of course, is that it does absolutley nothing for the millions of truly disadvantaged people who own ZERO points.

Rather than redistributing the wealth between different levels of fortunate people, wouldn't it be more "fair" and "just" to take points from every owner and give them to those who - through no fault of their own - own none?

And while we're at it, we'd need to provide cash for Disney vacations for those who can't afford them. A modest special assessment should cover that.

I'm just sayin...

 

[DVCconvert]

Da! Comrade MIA is right!!

The workers must unite against the DVC point owning bourgeoisie!!

We should calulate the total number of all DVC points divided by the total number of workers oppressed by the tyranny of the current regime and redistribute them! MF's should be paid for by the state!!!

 

[nunzia]

I think we should make that lady standing up, and anyone having more than their fare share of points, give 15% of her points each year to others that don't have as many. This will not affect 95% of those in DVC.

Just sticking with the current trend in society . . .

 

[nunzia]

The problem with this half-measure, of course, is that it does absolutley nothing for the millions of truly disadvantaged people who own ZERO points.

Rather than redistributing the wealth between different levels of fortunate people, wouldn't it be more "fair" and "just" to take points from every owner and give them to those who - through no fault of their own - own none?

And while we're at it, we'd need to provide cash for Disney vacations for those who can't afford them. A modest special assessment should cover that.

I'm just sayin...

well..I dunno..even if it IS their fault they don't own..they should still be given points from those who worked hard to get theirs..isn't that "FAIR"?
DVC points in every pot..and then of course we will have to all pitch in by a special ta...eh..assessment to pay for these folks to get to their DVC and since it wouldn't be any fun to be there and not do the parks..how taunting..then another small assessment could allow them all APs...yep..that's reasonable.

 

[puntagordabob]

 

[KingRichard]

I don't see them waiving the $95 transfer fee except for the cruises.

Why reward people to spend their money elsewhere?


Bigger discounts on AP or even passes would make the most sense.

Keep them coming back and spending more.

Also a bigger reward for referrals would make a lot of sense!

So much cheaper for us to send someone to resales!


With the price increase for points it would be easy for them to increase the reward or again give free passes for referrals to keep people in the parks and SPENDING MONEY!

 

[CarolMN]

Like I've said before, I can live with anything large point owners get EXCEPT preferred home resort booking. For non home resorts, they can have whatever.

My thoughts exactly - at least for the existing DVC resorts!

I wouldn't mind at all if they decided to do it differently for future DVC resorts, though.

 

[CarolMN]

....(snip).......Originally, I was convinced that these new resale restrictions would be roundly viewed as meaningless. After all, they are almost always poor uses of points to begin with, and you'd be better off renting out your points and using the proceeds to book the cruise, hotel, or guided tour you desired. I was sure that the overall market would place little or no value on the change. And a truly rational customer would do so........

I still think that way - that the changes are worth very little if anything.

I think the reason the resales are going so fast is that people are afraid of what might come next. The internet has convinced them that 3/20/11 will be the grandfathered date for all future changes. (They may be correct, but there is no proof of that right now, either). The belief that resales purchased before 3/20/11 will be "held harmless" for any future changes is really what is driving the rush to buy resale before 3/20, not the value of the removed options. If true, that is worth something and the market as a whole is still rational.

Now the two of us can continue to sleep at night as the markets are still rational, LOL.

 

[WDWMom]

On the other hand, DVC does have a vested interest in keeping those 1600 points off of the resale market. It is often suggested that DVC doesn't suffer when owners sell their points but that's not entirely true. The pricing disparity which exists today between direct and resale has a lot to do with the volume of points available on the secondary market.

And while you suggest that a large point owner would repeatedly treat family members, it is also possible that they are simply introducing friends and relatives to DVC. Those associates could be good candidates for their own DVC purchase.

Or those large point owners are renting them (for profit or otherwise) and getting people who are coming for a once in a life time trip. Those are the people who spend the big bucks in the parks and are spending money on food.


Honestly for us, we own 370 points. We stopped going into the parks everyday long ago. We buy 10 day park hoppers with no expiration. Those tickets last us 3-4 trips. If tickets were less expensive, we would go in more often and spend more money in the parks on food. The only times we buy food from Disney is our first day and when we go into the parks. The other days we eat in our room and hang around the pools. AP's make no sense for us since we go the same week every year and wouldn't get our money's worth.

I don't really care what they end up doing, as long as we don't lose any of our current benefits.

 

[M&C]

Just joining the conversation... When are tiered benefits going to be rolled out? Plus, this sounds like a pretty fun conversation to continue reading.

 

[CarolMN]

Just joining the conversation... When are tiered benefits going to be rolled out? Plus, this sounds like a pretty fun conversation to continue reading.

This is all speculation. There have been no announcements or even ant credible leaks (IMO).

Hoping everyone here is just having fun and understands nothing mentioned here is currently set to be implemented.

 

[DVCconvert]

WDWMom-
another thought here. I guess I'd be considered "a large point owner".
I've never rented. Even though I'm not 'running into the parks' everyday, I've often brought family/friends who have more than made up for any reduction which occured due to my not acting in commando mode anymore.

And because we do frequent in park eateries, and go to see some evening fireworks, and want to be able to enter with friends/family the AP's are a value to us.


M&C - no annoucement has been official made that any system will be introduced.

 

[M&C]

Wish I was a "large point owner".....

 

[DVCconvert]

Wish I was a "large point owner".....

It's not all that it's cracked up to be come January 15th of each year!

 

[M&C]

It's not all that it's cracked up to be come January 15th of each year!

Aww, don't ruin the illusion for us. It gives us goal to reach for.

 

[WDWMom]

WDWMom-
another thought here. I guess I'd be considered "a large point owner".
I've never rented. Even though I'm not 'running into the parks' everyday, I've often brought family/friends who have more than made up for any reduction which occured due to my not acting in commando mode anymore.

And because we do frequent in park eateries, and go to see some evening fireworks, and want to be able to enter with friends/family the AP's are a value to us.


M&C - no annoucement has been official made that any system will be introduced.

I understand that there are people who like the AP. It's just not for us, nor do I understand it. I have a hard time understanding the concept of going into a park and paying a days dmission just to eat or watch a show. That doesn't mean I think people who do it are wrong, I just don't get it. I can't fathom spending the money to do it. But to each his own.

I realize that people from DVD read these boards. They need to realize that not everyone who owns DVC buys an AP, goes every year and spends money in the parks or resorts. I guess they need to decide what is more important to them, getting people in with discounted tickets or not having them in the parks at all or very little. This is the realization for us and not a threat. We have been doing this for about 10 years now and have owned for 13.

 

[tjkraz]

I understand that there are people who like the AP. It's just not for us, nor do I understand it. I have a hard time understanding the concept of going into a park and paying a days dmission just to eat or watch a show. That doesn't mean I think people who do it are wrong, I just don't get it. I can't fathom spending the money to do it. But to each his own.

That's exactly why people buy annual passes. With an AP you aren't paying $50-60 per day...or whatever it works out to when buying a Magic Your Way ticket.

For a set price (currently about $440) you could enter the parks every single day throughout the next year if you wish.

APs certainly work best if you can get at least 2 or 3 week-long trips out of a pass. I wouldn't buy an AP if I was only going to be in the parks 4 or 5 days out of a year. But if you'll be at WDW 10 or more days and want the freedom of being able to come-and-go as you please, the AP is the way to go.

There are also some nice perks like 10-20% off merchandise purchases, discounted hotel room night, etc.

 

[WDWBlue]

I understand that there are people who like the AP. It's just not for us, nor do I understand it. I have a hard time understanding the concept of going into a park and paying a days dmission just to eat or watch a show. That doesn't mean I think people who do it are wrong, I just don't get it. I can't fathom spending the money to do it. But to each his own.

I realize that people from DVD read these boards. They need to realize that not everyone who owns DVC buys an AP, goes every year and spends money in the parks or resorts. I guess they need to decide what is more important to them, getting people in with discounted tickets or not having them in the parks at all or very little. This is the realization for us and not a threat. We have been doing this for about 10 years now and have owned for 13.

But I think a great number do. Our last annual pass, and our use of it, brought our per park day price down to about $10-$12 a day.

And when you go into a park to eat, you really do so much more just by going into the park. Much of the fun for us is seeing all the folks having such an amazing time, even if we're only there to stroll and eat.

 

[Garthilk]

Or for a large family almost 2500$ a year for APs? That's certainly not fun. In a way, it's a good reason for people NOT to buy DVC.

Example, I use my points every other year currently with one big trip. I could probably afford another contract with more points, but to take that into considering, that also means I have to consider AP's every year, food every year, and for a large family, that means a minimum of $2500 every year in addition to my DVC for anual passes. Not to mention addiotional money spent on each trip for transportation, etc.

 

[JenSop]

The thing too with AP's is you don't have to by them every year.

We bought our last July. Then I went again in October. And we're going this June. So on that one AP, I'm going to get 3 trips out of it. (And DH will be getting two.)

Definitely a savings over buying park passes for each trip.

We won't renew our passes this year, but will buy new ones NEXT year and plan it so we get at least two trips out of them. (Go late in the summer next year, then early in the summer the year after that.)