MrInfinity
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This is absolutely true. The point is that a big appeal for WDW is to be able to plan during the day to avoid the long lines. Other than characters, we rarely stand in line for anything for more than 20 minutes at WDW. We don't get up horribly early (usually arrive 15 or 20 minutes after rope drop), we aren't FP superusers, and we don't plan every minute of our day in advance. We avoid the lines while in park by pulling FPs for rides that have lines too long when we first get to that area of the park. We then go do everything else in the area and come back to the ride when our FP time hits. I know at some point we will be in a long line for a character, but we can manage our days by avoiding most of the long ride lines, and as a result we can fit a lot more into a day. It isn't even that much leg work. I know that I need to book it to Soarin or TSM when we arrive in the morning to get FPs (the one nice thing that the 1 FP+ helps out on) and that at AK I need to head to Safari, and MK PP first. Other than that- my leg work consists of walking to an area of the park with my family, seeing whether a line for a FP attraction is more than 20 minutes. If it is not, we get in line then. If it is, we pull a FP and do everything else in that area of the park until the FP kicks in. If the line is short enough that we get in it, we might still pull a FP for later if it is a favorite, but more often than not- if the line is that short, we just ride it twice in a row without FP and move on to something else. The only exception is that Splash, if DD wants to ride it, usually involves pulling a FP that kicks in much later, so we do usually have to cross the park back to that area.
Many of the posters attacking those who are not happy with FP+ seem to believe that all the complainers are FP superusers who ride the same ride in each park 4 or 5 times a day and take up too many FPs, that is not us at all (well- except for PP at MK when DD was little- but that also used to be pretty much the ONLY thing we FP at MK- and if DD didn't ride that one multiple times at MK when she was 2 and 3, then she didn't consider that a successful day.- PP and Small World were what she wanted at that age- she was always asking to go back to one of those)
When we were there the first week in October, we never saw the line for Test Track or Soarin at less than an hour on the days we were at EPCOT and usually those lines were 90 minutes. What we are used to doing is FPing both those rides to avoid long lines there, but then we might wait in line for 30 minutes to an hour each to meet Jasmine and Aladdin and then Belle. Normally, those are the only 2 FPs we get in a day at EPCOT- we might occasionally FP Soarin twice, but never more than that. Now in addition to spending about an hour and a half in lines for Belle and Jasmine/Aladdin, if the park has the lines it did the week we were there in October, we will have to spend another hour to an hour and a half in the line for either Test Track or Soarin because we can now only get a FP for one of those 2 rides. There is 2 to 3 1/2 hours of our day gone in lines already for only 3 things. The lack of being able to get one of the 2 FPs we get in a day has added an hour to an hour and a half of wait time into our day. The tiered system of FP+ is extremely limiting in how much you can do in a day in a park. Because the 2nd tier is things you never needed a FP for on low or even "regular" crowd days, you are now relegated to long lines in all but one Tier 1 attraction- so basically FP+ in reality limits you to 1 FP a day. I firmly believe that those who think this is going to make the standby lines shorter are totally wrong. Look at Six Flags- the lines there are consistently long. Also, I'm old enough to remember pre FP days, and what I remember are long lines for everything.
I think this is one of the most reasonable counter-FP+ arguments I've heard.
I have to agree w you, that most ppl are in general, going to want to FP Soarin and Test Track. I think they should settle on a system where T1 includes Soarin, TT, and MS (and Maelstrom and the Mexico ride so the kid-familes have options too). And you get to pick 2 from T1.The real question there, is "if everyone going to EC in a day wants 1 FP to Soarin and 1 FP to TT, do those rides have the capacity to handle every person going thru the FP line once?"
I'm sure Disney knows the answer, and I'd like to think it's "yes". When FP- goes away, there will be more FP capacity for FP+. Right now they're having to balance two systems thru a transitional period.
- PP and Small World were what she wanted at that age- she was always asking to go back to one of those)
