Throwaway room (read post #2041 or #2710 before posting)

[Burnedout]

Was wondering the same. I'd be worried!

 

[ArwenMarie]

Yes, you can book a room-only with tickets attached, book at day 60, then cancel the room and keep the FPs. As of recently anyway, and as far as I know. Could be helpful for offsiters.

Are you using an AP? How did you have the extra ticket days?

 

[snayak]

Not really. Most of those in that thread that have booked a throwaway room only booked for 1 night and paid for the room or campsite. What the OP is talking about is booking a room for time before your scheduled trip to be able to make FP+ earlier. For what the OP is talking about, you would have to book more than just 1 night to make much of a difference in your FP+ booking. Most of those booking throwaway rooms aren't staying on-site either and that is the reason for the 1 night throwaway room. The OP is already staying on-site and is just adding days to before their trip to access the FP+ system for their real travel dates earlier.

Whats the difference other than dates? Neither party plans to stay in the room, they just want access to the perks to make their trip more magical.

 

[AmyB2006]

Not really. Most of those in that thread that have booked a throwaway room only booked for 1 night and paid for the room or campsite. What the OP is talking about is booking a room for time before your scheduled trip to be able to make FP+ earlier. For what the OP is talking about, you would have to book more than just 1 night to make much of a difference in your FP+ booking. Most of those booking throwaway rooms aren't staying on-site either and that is the reason for the 1 night throwaway room. The OP is already staying on-site and is just adding days to before their trip to access the FP+ system for their real travel dates earlier.

It's the same concept/idea though, or at least similar. Booking rooms/nights in order to attain FP+ reservations.

 

[jimandami]

Whats the difference other than dates? Neither party plans to stay in the room, they just want access to the perks to make their trip more magical.

Most people that are booking "throwaway" rooms actually keep the reservation, not cancel it.

 

[jimandami]

I'm so confused
I booked a throwaway campsite for one night, thinking that I would be able to book 60 days ahead of time for our check in and check out days then I thought I would have a rolling 60 days after the check out day.
Is that wrong??
Will I only have 60 days from our check in and check out dates then will it drop to 30 days after my check out date?
My head is spinning
Can someone PLEASE explain this again. Will it remain a rolling 60 days after the check out date or will it drop to 30 days after the check out date?

Thank you to anyone who can explain/help

Karen

That is how it is supposed to work, yes.

 

[doconeill]

I'm so confused
I booked a throwaway campsite for one night, thinking that I would be able to book 60 days ahead of time for our check in and check out days then I thought I would have a rolling 60 days after the check out day.
Is that wrong??
Will I only have 60 days from our check in and check out dates then will it drop to 30 days after my check out date?
My head is spinning
Can someone PLEASE explain this again. Will it remain a rolling 60 days after the check out date or will it drop to 30 days after the check out date?

Thank you to anyone who can explain/help

Karen

Best explained by example.

If you are checking in on December 1st and checking out on December 2nd:

You can make FP+ reservations for December 1st and December 2nd starting 60 days out from December 1st: October 2nd.

If you want to then make FP+ reservations for December 3rd, you can make them on October 4th.

For December 4th, you can make them on October 5th, and so on.

This carries on _until_ December 2nd. You can continue to make FP+ at 60 days from the date in question until then, which means you can make FP+ reservations up through January 31st (60 days from December 2nd). After that, you can only make FP+ reservations at 30 days out. Any FP+ reservations made in the 60 day window before that should remain, but you will be unable to change them.

 

[snayak]

Most people that are booking "throwaway" rooms actually keep the reservation, not cancel it.

They allegedly keep it. Even so, whats the difference? Does paying the $60 (and getting MB and free parking) really change the idea behind either? How can fake reservations be "bad" but throwaway rooms "ok"?

 

[jimandami]

They allegedly keep it. Even so, whats the difference? Does paying the $60 (and getting MB and free parking) really change the idea behind either? How can fake reservations be "bad" but throwaway rooms "ok"?

Oh I don't have a problem with either one.

 

[ArwenMarie]

Oh I don't have a problem with either one.

Me neither. Disney can fix every loophole if they want to.

 

[flatlandcycle]

Me neither. Disney can fix every loophole if they want to.

Well, Disney can't. Maybe the it group they have hired to fix their mess can.

 

[itchin2go]

I'm so confused
I booked a throwaway campsite for one night, thinking that I would be able to book 60 days ahead of time for our check in and check out days then I thought I would have a rolling 60 days after the check out day.
Is that wrong??
Will I only have 60 days from our check in and check out dates then will it drop to 30 days after my check out date?
My head is spinning
Can someone PLEASE explain this again. Will it remain a rolling 60 days after the check out date or will it drop to 30 days after the check out date?

Thank you to anyone who can explain/help

Karen

My window just opened recently (9/22). I was able to make FPs 60 days out on each date. I am still able to make FPs 60 days out, even after my last ticket date (even though I don't want to).

 

[Burnedout]

They allegedly keep it. Even so, whats the difference? Does paying the $60 (and getting MB and free parking) really change the idea behind either? How can fake reservations be "bad" but throwaway rooms "ok"?

I don't care what they do. I was questioning whether the fp would disappear.

 

[Wanna be Ariel]

No my fast pass did stay. I canceled at my 60 day window and everything was fine. I do have a AP so that was how I could book that far out.

 

[mickeyluv'r]

No, but anecdotally, it demonstrates that throwaway practices right now have not reached a level that site availability patterns have changed at all from previous years before throwaway rooms were a practice. It indicates that all of the arm-waving and panic about unavailability of rooms is quite possibly unnecessary at this point. VP

But who said this practice is new?

Sorry to burst any bubbles, but this concept has been around for a very long time. Folks have been booking campsites to get the onsite perks for a long time.

Mind, I thought it was of questionable benefit then and still think it is of questionable benefit now.

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Likewise, I think Disney has had a major shift in how they treat customers in recent years.

 

[Violet Parr]

But who said this practice is new?

Sorry to burst any bubbles, but this concept has been around for a very long time. Folks have been booking campsites to get the onsite perks for a long time.

Mind, I thought it was of questionable benefit then and still think it is of questionable benefit now.

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Likewise, I think Disney has had a major shift in how they treat customers in recent years.

So I have been able to get all the campground dates I have wanted over the last 9 years even though this practice has been around for a "very long time"? Then obviously it's not something to worry about.

VP

 

[sippican]

So I have been able to get all the campground dates I have wanted over the last 9 years even though this practice has been around for a "very long time"? Then obviously it's not something to worry about.

VP

And if you go on over to the Camping forum, you will hear quite a few guests stating that they are unable to get the dates they want, even quite far out. They DO feel it is something to worry about.

 

[Violet Parr]

And if you go on over to the Camping forum, you will hear quite a few guests stating that they are unable to get the dates they want, even quite far out. They DO feel it is something to worry about.

It's all anecdotal. I have looked at availability all year long. Some weekends (and weeks) are traditionally hard to get, even way far out. Only this year, Christmas week has far more availability than previous years. Hmm. And I have 10 days booked in May, just in case, 10 days in October, just in case, and 10 days in Dec. 2015, just in case. No trouble booking. I also looked at booking Jan and Feb. No trouble at all. Whose anecdotes are you going to go by?

VP

 

[doconeill]

It's all anecdotal. I have looked at availability all year long. Some weekends (and weeks) are traditionally hard to get, even way far out. Only this year, Christmas week has far more availability than previous years. Hmm. And I have 10 days booked in May, just in case, 10 days in October, just in case, and 10 days in Dec. 2015, just in case. No trouble booking. I also looked at booking Jan and Feb. No trouble at all. Whose anecdotes are you going to go by?

VP

Well, I don't know you any better than the others in the camping threads, so, neither really.

I go by hard numbers. We don't have a lot. But as I said, it CAN have an effect, not that it _does_.

And perhaps the reason why no one else can get a campsite is that this Violet Parr person keeps booking 10-day reservations all over the place "just in case..."

 

[Violet Parr]

Well, I don't know you any better than the others in the camping threads, so, neither really.

I go by hard numbers. We don't have a lot. But as I said, it CAN have an effect, not that it _does_.

And perhaps the reason why no one else can get a campsite is that this Violet Parr person keeps booking 10-day reservations all over the place "just in case..."

Not unless they booked them all in the last 48 hours. But I dropped my December bookings as soon as I found out DH can't make it.

And please, don't even suggest to me that people don't book a variety of dates until they narrow down their trips.

What's more, 90 tent sites, 365 days per year. 32850 available tent nights per year. I have 30 of them right now. 24 are weekdays. Every single day I have booked STILL has availability. So no, it's not "this violet parr person."

VP