Throwaway room (read post #2041 or #2710 before posting)

[massvacationer]

I think Disney could immediately decrease demand for the throw away rooms by giving all ticket holders the ability to book FP+ at 60 days........I know this would make it really difficult for anyone to score FP+s for 7DMT, A&E, and a couple fireworks/parade events.

 

[doconeill]

Please be careful about trying to discuss the morality of throwaway rooms, etc. The moderators have warned several times. This thread isn't about whether it should or shouldn't be allowed, or how to "fix the loophole". That's Disney's problem.

 

[doconeill]

As far as how it works. I was able to immediately book FP+ for 30 days out once I had tickets linked to my account. Then at 60 days out, I was able to book FP+ only for the check in day and check out day for my one booking. My other booking, I had to wait until that 60 day mark to do it. It only allows the 60 days for your "stay". So if you booked 4/1-4/5 then you would be able to book FP+from 4/1-4/6. Check in being 4/1 and check out being 4/6. If you had split the stay and were staying 4/1-4/2 and then 4/5-4/6, then you would be able to book FP+ for 4/1-4/2 at 60 days and then 4/5-4/6 at 60 days. But you couldnt book 4/3-4/4 because you would not be on Disney Property at that time.

That isn't entirely true. Also, your dates are a bit confusing..."booked 4/1-4/5" generally implies checking out on 4/5, although from your description you are referring to the _nights_ booked.

Yes, at 60 days from 4/1, you can book FP+ for all the days from 4/1 to 4/6. BUT, at 60 days from 4/7, you can book that day. Then 60 days from 4/8, etc. - the 60 day window remains open and rolling day by day for dates afterwards, up until you actually get to 4/1, when it closes again (assuming no future reservations that may keep it open).

 

[auntiemare]

That isn't entirely true. Also, your dates are a bit confusing..."booked 4/1-4/5" generally implies checking out on 4/5, although from your description you are referring to the _nights_ booked.

Yes, at 60 days from 4/1, you can book FP+ for all the days from 4/1 to 4/6. BUT, at 60 days from 4/7, you can book that day. Then 60 days from 4/8, etc. - the 60 day window remains open and rolling day by day for dates afterwards, up until you actually get to 4/1, when it closes again (assuming no future reservations that may keep it open).

I am not going to argue about this. But I just did this last week. I have a reservation for the night of 4/19. I was able to make FP+ for 4/19 and 4/20 60 days out on 2/18. Then I have a reservation for the night of 4/23 and I was able to make FP+ for 4/23 and 4/24 on 2/22...If I look at my FP now it is blocked out for 4/21 and 4/22 because I do not have a "stay" then. Maybe it was different for you. Idk. I was just trying to clarify some confusion based on the experience I just had last week.

 

[massvacationer]

I am not going to argue about this. But I just did this last week. I have a reservation for the night of 4/19. I was able to make FP+ for 4/19 and 4/20 60 days out on 2/18. Then I have a reservation for the night of 4/23 and I was able to make FP+ for 4/23 and 4/24 on 2/22...If I look at my FP now it is blocked out for 4/21 and 4/22 because I do not have a "stay" then. Maybe it was different for you. Idk. I was just trying to clarify some confusion based on the experience I just had last week.

Are your tickets part of a package?

 

[auntiemare]

Are your tickets part of a package?

No, they were not. We are using military tickets and I linked them through MDE.

 

[doconeill]

No, they were not. We are using military tickets and I linked them through MDE.

Then your experience differs with a lot of other people. Perhaps it is because you have two reservations and a gap. Most people concerned with the throwaway room concept aren't doing that.

 

[ckelly14]

I am not going to argue about this. But I just did this last week. I have a reservation for the night of 4/19. I was able to make FP+ for 4/19 and 4/20 60 days out on 2/18. Then I have a reservation for the night of 4/23 and I was able to make FP+ for 4/23 and 4/24 on 2/22...If I look at my FP now it is blocked out for 4/21 and 4/22 because I do not have a "stay" then. Maybe it was different for you. Idk. I was just trying to clarify some confusion based on the experience I just had last week.

Interesting. I hope they haven't "closed the loophole"

 

[Letsbgoofy]

4. Never really thought about it this way, that cancelling the room may be a better option as it opens up a campsite for someone else. Always thought of cancelling a throwaway somehow unfair (not trying to open up a debate, just an observation), but perhaps I am wrong to think that way.

I would think this would be even more of a problem if people only have to book a one night reservation to get FP+ for their whole vacation. That 1 night reservation could keep someone from being able to camp all week. It's not like you can switch resorts or room catagories when you are camping if one of your nights isn't available.

I know this won't make me popular, but the simple solution is make FP+ and MB for resort guests only (think Universal here)- or better yet get rid of FP+ and let all guests be equal.

 

[hpriamson]

I'm in the midst of doing it all now, and I can definitely still get FP+ reservations for multiple days after my reservation. I literally just reserved FP+s for 4 days after my checkout day, 60 days in the future.

What I did find though, is once I've selected FP+ for my entire party, for all the days of my tickets, I can't reserve any more. Example - I've got 5 day tickets, and a 1 night reservation on a Tuesday. I've made FP+ reservations for the entire party for Tuesday, Wed, Thur, Fri & Sunday. If I try to make a new reservation for Saturday, it lets me select my party, but when I click on Saturday I get a popup that says "The following Guests will be removed from the party" and lists my entire party. So that may be what auntiemarie saw - she didn't get rejected because she picked a day that she wasn't staying, she got rejected because she already had as many FP+ days as she had ticket days.

 

[doconeill]

I'm in the midst of doing it all now, and I can definitely still get FP+ reservations for multiple days after my reservation. I literally just reserved FP+s for 4 days after my checkout day, 60 days in the future.

What I did find though, is once I've selected FP+ for my entire party, for all the days of my tickets, I can't reserve any more. Example - I've got 5 day tickets, and a 1 night reservation on a Tuesday. I've made FP+ reservations for the entire party for Tuesday, Wed, Thur, Fri & Sunday. If I try to make a new reservation for Saturday, it lets me select my party, but when I click on Saturday I get a popup that says "The following Guests will be removed from the party" and lists my entire party. So that may be what auntiemarie saw - she didn't get rejected because she picked a day that she wasn't staying, she got rejected because she already had as many FP+ days as she had ticket days.

Yes, this is expected...you cannot make more FP+ selection days than the length of your tickets. Annual Passes count as 7 days unless you have a reservation, and there are some gotchas with them still. See the Fastpass+ thread for more details.

 

[Itinkso]

No, they were not. We are using military tickets and I linked them through MDE.

@auntiemare, you probably experienced a glitch perhaps with the Military Tickets not activating the FP windows correctly.

I have a one-day comp ticket linked to my MDE. Thanks to it being a comp ticket, I only had a 7-day booking window open.

After linking our one night onsite stay, the 60-day booking window opened and I've booked FPs for one day. The booking window is not only open beyond our stay, the 7-day window opened giving me from now through beyond our April 19th stay to book FPs.

So, even if you only had 4 or 5 days of ticket entitlements, your FP windows should have been open from now until beyond your second onsite stay and even including the days between the two onsite stays. My thought is that Disney didn't correctly key in the correct FP triggers for Military Tickets.

 

[auntiemare]

I'm in the midst of doing it all now, and I can definitely still get FP+ reservations for multiple days after my reservation. I literally just reserved FP+s for 4 days after my checkout day, 60 days in the future.

What I did find though, is once I've selected FP+ for my entire party, for all the days of my tickets, I can't reserve any more. Example - I've got 5 day tickets, and a 1 night reservation on a Tuesday. I've made FP+ reservations for the entire party for Tuesday, Wed, Thur, Fri & Sunday. If I try to make a new reservation for Saturday, it lets me select my party, but when I click on Saturday I get a popup that says "The following Guests will be removed from the party" and lists my entire party. So that may be what auntiemarie saw - she didn't get rejected because she picked a day that she wasn't staying, she got rejected because she already had as many FP+ days as she had ticket days.

Honestly, I have not even tried to book those days because we will not be there those days, but they are greyed out where I don't even think I can click on them. I have everything I need for the 4 days I will be there. I was only posting to try to help someone that was doing the same thing that I was doing.

 

[DB Cooper]

Interesting. I hope they haven't "closed the loophole"

They may have. I booked a one-night stay for 4/27. I have a 5-day ticket linked in MDE. Yesterday, I was able to reserve FP+ for 4/28 (my checkout day, and my first day in the parks). Just logged on to reserve FP+ for 4/29, and it's greyed out.

Did they change the rules, did I misunderstand things to begin with, or is this a glitch?

Edited: I think the answer is "lousy math." Today is a hole in my "rolling window" since yesterday was 60+1 from 4/28. I need to try again tomorrow.

 

[hiroMYhero]

Did they change the rules, did I misunderstand things to begin with, or is this a glitch?

@DB Cooper : Not a glitch. You cannot book for the 29th until February 28th. It's a rolling 60 days for the last days of your ticket entitlements. You are attempting this one day too early.

 

[hiroMYhero]

http://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadded.html?m1=4&d1=29&y1=2015&type=sub&ay=&am=&aw=&ad=60

Edited: I think the answer is "lousy math." Today is a hole in my "rolling window" since yesterday was 60+1 from 4/28. I need to try again tomorrow.

 

[Anchored]

115 pages?
Lots to read, maybe someone can hold my hand and help me out here
Taking my best friend and her family to Disney for the first time. I have AP's but they will be using military tickets
we are renting a house off site for the week of Thanksgiving
there will be 9 of us in total, and would love to get them Magic Bands, get FP+, and reserve a table for thanksgiving at BoG
can a book a throwaway campsite? what date should I target to assure optimum dining odds?

 

[ckelly14]

115 pages?
Lots to read, maybe someone can hold my hand and help me out here
Taking my best friend and her family to Disney for the first time. I have AP's but they will be using military tickets
we are renting a house off site for the week of Thanksgiving
there will be 9 of us in total, and would love to get them Magic Bands, get FP+, and reserve a table for thanksgiving at BoG
can a book a throwaway campsite? what date should I target to assure optimum dining odds?

A one day throwaway room will not help much with dining. You will only be able to make reservations for the day of check-in and check-out, essentially 180+1. This isn't much help, since even off-site guests are allowed to make reservations at 180.

To take advantage of dining your "throwaway" room would need to be for the entire time of your offsite stay.

Otherwise, the throwaway campsite could be quite helpful with the other benefits (60 day FP+, parking, Magic Bands).

 

[lauradis]

This seems immoral and just plain sneaky. It makes me sad.

I find it rather interesting.

So let me get this straight you, buy a campground for first night you plan on stay at Disney, even thou your staying off-site for your vacation.

so you paying about $80 for up to 10 magic bands and the ability to book 60 days out for fp+

I wonder how hard Disney is laughing all the way to the bank, because people don't want to wait in lines.

 

[Luckybee]

Lauradis you may wish to read post 2041 before posting further on this thread...it may save you some grief.