This is why I'm so against illegal immigration

Teejay32 said:
No flag burnings, free palestine signs or profanity...? Is that a first?

Well, here you go. This is from an pro-immigration demonstration on July 4, 2000. They burned the flag in front of the Los Angeles veterans cemetery.

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olena said:
Can you imagine the peels of laughter if a bunch of Americans marched in Mexico City demanding 'rights' from the Mexican government?
No kidding! Or any other country! :rotfl2:

I say that if you are here illegally, then you have no rights!
 
What's the red flag the other guy is holding?
 
They know when they cross the border they are illegal and don't have rights. Regardless of how hard they work, it doesn't entitle an illegal to legal rights.

Why should they receive the rights that others painstakingly sought for years when they could just hop across a border.

They deserve absolutely NO RIGHTS. Other than the right to be sent back where they came from.
 

I've got an idea. Since things are almost wrapped up in Iraq, :rotfl2: lets bring the troops home and invade Mexico. We'll make it just like the US and then there will be no reason for them to come north.

If God has given them the right to our land, perhaps we have a right to theirs!

Gosh, I'm in a testy mood tonight!
 
olena said:
Can you imagine the peels of laughter if a bunch of Americans marched in Mexico City demanding 'rights' from the Mexican government?

I have seen people beat the crap out of americans in europe ( not for demanding rights from any government though ) more times than I can count. Somehow I do not imagine that happening.......
 
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UMMM, you may be hard workers, but you're certainly CRIMINALS. You're here illegally for god's sake.

I'm glad the illegal kids walked out of school, they shouldn't be there in the first place. Their parents don't pay taxes for them to be there!
 
Glenn said:
These groups try to say if your against illegals your against immegrants. That is alot of manure. If youve waited in line like my grandparents I say welcome on in. If you couldn't be bothered I say lets send them back.
Instead of just complaining here this is what I would suggest. Contact your US Senator to tell him or her how you feel pro or con on the matter. They all have web sites. They see the marches but not how the vast majority out here feel. Let's tell them how we feel and that we will remember them in the next election. :thanks:


I would absolutely do that, though I get the feeling that my senator, Kit Bond already knows how we feel here and agrees wholeheartedly!

MY Dh's Uncle just moved here from the Phillippines, after waiting about two years. He is here legally because my FIL had signed all the papers that state he would be responsible for him. My FIL immigrated here in 1959 and became a US Citizen, and couldn't be more proud.

Oh, and get this- he is very greatful to the AMERICAN SOLDIERS who helped to save him in WWII when he lived in the jungles of the Phillippines for four years. There was a group of soldiers that set up camp where my FIL's father could find work, and he hung out with those brave men who played with him, gave him candy, hugs, thier FOOD, books to read. Those soldiers gave him a piece of the American Dream and he never looked back. This country is better off for people who contribute like my FIL- who was probably the only Republican school teacher in the history of this country. That is America.

Entitlement for criminals. Please! Write your senator, now. The media will spin this to look like the president is irresponsible in some way regarding this. It is too important an issue to let ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS continue to get rights in this country that they hate.
 
ChrisnSteph said:
THIS is what bugs the crap out of me! Who's flags are they waving? What do those signs say? And we're supposed to be supportive? If they are so proud of their country.....

ITA! :thumbsup2
 
alright, so six years ago some guy burned a flag. In the OP, people are waving them. I'm not seeing the hate. By California protest standards it's a freaking miracle.

:sad2:

I just don't get this. Don't mind me, I'm done now.
 
From the NY Times:

Senate Panel Approves Broad Immigration Reform Bill
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: March 27, 2006
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Senate Judiciary Committee approved sweeping election-year legislation Monday that clears the way for 11 million illegal aliens to seek U.S. citizenship, a victory for demonstrators who had spilled into the streets by the hundreds of thousands demanding better treatment for immigrants.

With a bipartisan coalition in control, the committee also voted down proposed criminal penalties on immigrants found to be in the country illegally. It approved a new temporary program allowing entry for 1.5 million workers seeking jobs in the agriculture industry.

"All Americans wanted fairness and they got it this evening," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., who played a pivotal role in drafting the legislation.

There was no immediate reaction from the White House, and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C. said he hoped President Bush would participate in efforts to fashion consensus legislation. "The only thing that's off the table is inaction," said Graham, who voted for the committee bill.

The 12-6 vote broke down along unusual lines, with a majority of the panel's Republicans opposed to the measure even though their party controls the Senate.

Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., seeking re-election this fall in his border state, said the bill offered amnesty to illegal immigrants, and sought unsuccessfully to insert tougher provisions. He told fellow committee members that the economy would turn sour some day and Americans workers would want the jobs that now go to illegal immigrants. They will ask, "how could you have let this happen," he added.

Committee chairman Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania was one of four Republicans to support the bill, but he signaled strongly that some of the more controversial provisions could well be changed when the measure reaches the Senate floor. That is "very frequently" the case when efforts to reach a broad bipartisan compromise falter, he noted.

In general, the bill is designed to strengthen enforcement of U.S. borders, regulate the flow into the country of so-called guest workers and determine the legal future of the estimated 11 million immigrants living in the United States illegally.

The bill would double the Border Patrol and authorizes a "virtual wall" of unmanned vehicles, cameras and censors to monitor the U.S.-Mexico border.

It also allows more visas for nurses and agriculture workers, and shelters humanitarian organizations from prosecution if they provide non-emergency assistance to illegal residents.

The most controversial provision would permit illegal aliens currently in the country to apply for citizenship without first having to return home, a process that would take at least six years or more. They would have to pay a fine, learn English, study American civics, demonstrate they had paid their taxes and take their place behind other applicants for citizenship, according to aides to Kennedy.

"Well over 60 percent of Americans in all the polls I see think it's OK to have temporary workers, but you do not have to make them citizens," said Kyl.

"We have a fundamental difference between the way you look at them and the way I look at them," Kennedy observed later.

Arizona GOP Sen. John McCain, a potential presidential contender who worked with Kennedy on the issue, told reporters the street demonstrations had made an impact. "All those people who were demonstrating are not here illegally. They are the children and grandchildren" of those who may have been, he said.

The committee met as several thousand demonstrators rallied at the foot of the Capitol. Many were members of the clergy who donned handcuffs and sang "We Shall Overcome," the unofficial anthem of the civil rights era.

After a weekend of enormous rallies -- a crowd of as many as 500,000 demonstrators in Los Angeles -- thousands of students walked out of class in California and Texas to protest proposals to crack down on illegal immigrants.

"Do you see the community? Do you see how many people didn't go to work today," asked Janet Padron, attending a rally in Michigan.

Her remark underscored one of the issue's complexities.

Senators on all sides of the issue agreed that illegal workers hold thousands of jobs that otherwise would go unfilled at the wages offered.

The agriculture industry is "almost entirely dependent on undocumented workers," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.

In purely political terms, the issue threatened to fracture Republicans as they head into the midterm election campaign -- one group eager to make labor readily available for low-wage jobs in industries such as agriculture, construction and meatpacking, the other determined to place a higher emphasis on law enforcement.

That was a split Bush was hoping to avoid after a political career spent building support for himself and his party from the fast-growing Hispanic population.

"America should not have to choose between being a welcoming society and being a lawful society," Bush said at a naturalization ceremony for new citizens. "We can be both at the same time."

Bush has said he favors a guest worker program, but it is unclear whether the administration would insist on a provision to require illegal immigrants already in the country to return home before they are allowed to apply for citizenship.

At several critical points, committee Democrats showed unity while Republicans splintered. In general, Graham, Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas and Sen. Mike DeWine of Ohio, who is seeking re-election this fall, voted with the Democrats. That created a majority that allowed them to shape the bill to their liking.

Feinstein won approval for the five-year program to permit as many as 1.5 million agriculture workers into the country. "It will provide the agriculture industry with a legal work force and offer agriculture workers a path to citizenship," she said. The vote was 11-5, with Republicans casting all the votes in opposition.

Kennedy prevailed on a proposal to allow an additional 400,000 green cards for future immigrants, regardless of the industry where they find jobs.
 
Illegal is not legal. I take that at face value.

And, Tee, I bet you are not done. :p
 
I wonder how it would be taken if those of us against the ideal of legalizing the illegals currently here went out and protested. I'm sure we would be blasted for being hateful and unsympathetic.

Based on the comments I've seen on the DIS, I really don't think the majority of Americans are for this type of legislation. It would be nice if our elected officials paid attention to what their constituency really want for a change.
 
Contact your US Senator to tell him or her how you feel pro or con on the matter. They all have web sites.

i seriously hope people do this. i just emailed both of my senators (both democrats).
 
I'm curious who you all think is going to pick your fruits and vegetables when you run them all out of the country.
 
georgina said:
I'm curious who you all think is going to pick your fruits and vegetables when you run them all out of the country.

if people think that is a legitimate problem (i personally do not), then you should be trying to make immigration less restrictive so that they can come here legally.
 
I am sure I will take the heat well with the rest of you . As the wife of a firefighter must like Steph I think I can take the heat ; )


We have a saying around here " If you dont like it your counrty is but a boat ride away"

My father and mother are both 1st generation Americans , we have not forgotten our roots in Italy but we are PROUD to be Americans . My Grandfather was always grateful for his boatride from Italy to America but you can bet if he wasnt he would have rowed his butt right back .
 


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