This is why I'm so against illegal immigration

[Mad4Mickey]

I'm curious who you all think is going to pick your fruits and vegetables when you run them all out of the country.

Well I think maybe some of the pweople who are here legally and are unable to work because someone who will work for just about free here in Texas in the Valley wont be here to take the job for so cheap : )

 

[Sylvester McBean]

I'm curious who you all think is going to pick your fruits and vegetables when you run them all out of the country.

I'm willing to pay more for produce in the cause. ILLEGAL immigration is the term.

 

[jennobrn01]

Who's flags are they waving? What do those signs say? And we're supposed to be supportive? If they are so proud of their country.....

Exactly! Just read the tales of those who came through Ellis Island a century or more ago. There is a stark contrast in attitude. They were thrilled to enter the country and worked hard to become an American. They truly "melted" into the pot. They labored over the English language, and often demanded that their children speak only English. Love of the motherland was always in their being, but their loyalty was to their new home.

 

[Feralpeg]

if people think that is a legitimate problem (i personally do not), then you should be trying to make immigration less restrictive so that they can come here legally.

Try moving to a border state. You might change your mind.

 

[Antonia]

Let me say that I am totally against amnesty for illegal immigrants. There is an illegal from Canada living not far from my house in a shack in sub-human conditions. He is driving a rag of a car with no insurance, no tag and no drivers' license. He doesn't work because he has no papers. Yet his garbage is collected same as mine and if he gets sick or injured I am sure he will receive health care at the local hospital. I am just waiting for the day that the police pull him over for something and discover that he is illegal with no license, no insurance, etc. He did get beat up pretty bad, but did not seek healthcare because he did not want to be discovered. I feel like he is probably running from something to be here living like he is. He is living with a woman from our town and he met her on the internet. They are living like animals and driving around in a rag and neither working. Why in the world would the USA want to give amnesty to people like this?

 

[Stacerita]

Let me say that I am totally against amnesty for illegal immigrants. There is an illegal from Canada living not far from my house in a shack in sub-human conditions. He is driving a rag of a car with no insurance, no tag and no drivers' license. He doesn't work because he has no papers. Yet his garbage is collected same as mine and if he gets sick or injured I am sure he will receive health care at the local hospital. I am just waiting for the day that the police pull him over for something and discover that he is illegal with no license, no insurance, etc. He did get beat up pretty bad, but did not seek healthcare because he did not want to be discovered. I feel like he is probably running from something to be here living like he is. He is living with a woman from our town and he met her on the internet. They are living like animals and driving around in a rag and neither working. Why in the world would the USA want to give amnesty to people like this?

Funny thing is, you say all this about a Canadian, but if you told the same story and it was about a Mexican, there would be some people who would consider you a racist. People in the area around where I live think its a racial issue that "we" are against Mexicans. Its an illegal immigrant issue, not a race one.

 

[studentmom]

I get so tired of people thinking someone is a racist, because he or she is against ILLEGAL immigration. I sure hope that this work program and amnesty deal don''t go through. It's funny because almost all of the people I talk to are against illegal immigration. Also I've taken polls on AOL and the results seem to indicate that most of the people are against illegal immigration, amnesty, a wall, and the work program. I think the media really likes twist things around.

The only people who seem to be heard right now are those who are for all of these things. Like I said on the other thread, I'm anxious to know if there are any rallies against illegal immigration will be taking place. I don't care what people think of me anymore. I'm tired of the schools going down and people that get medical benefits that people like my mom can't get.
Like Stephanie said, the INS' hands are tied, because of lawsuits and racial profiling.
I'm going to write to my senators.

 

[Sylvester McBean]

Exactly! Just read the tales of those who came through Ellis Island a century or more ago. There is a stark contrast in attitude. They were thrilled to enter the country and worked hard to become an American. They truly "melted" into the pot. They labored over the English language, and often demanded that their children speak only English. Love of the motherland was always in their being, but their loyalty was to their new home.

excellent points.

 

[JennaTX]

As someone who lives in a border state, illegal immigration is a huge problem here in Texas. While I am in no way for illegal immigration, the fact is that there are millions of illegal immigrants in this country now. The children go to our schools, they go to our hospitals/doctors, they get food stamps, and they get drivers licenses. So why not just make these people legal? The government (that means us) are paying for their children's schools, free breakfast/lunch program, ESL classes, shots for the children, food stamps, etc. So why not just make them legal so that they can pay taxes and contribute to society? We don't have the manpower to round them all up and export them, and even if we did, how are we going to stop them from coming back? Right now I just see at as being a big drain on our system, but at least if they were legal and paying taxes, it would not be as bad.

 

[DisnyMama]

When my son got home from school today he told me there was a message on our answering machine from the school district about not allowing any of the kids to leave campus (lock down basically). Most of the Jr's and Sr's are done with classes after lunch or by 1:00 p.m. Well, with all thats going on they weren't letting anyone leave the campuses for fear of protesting. Alot of these kids have jobs that they go to but after seeing what I saw on the news tonight at some of the inner city schools in the LAUSD (Los Angeles Unified School District) where the kids left school and were walking on the freeways I think our school district which is just outside of LAUSD did a very responsible thing.

 

[PixieDust32]

I saw that, kids walking on the freeway! OMG!

 

[Free4Life11]

First off, how do you know that all in that crowd are illegal? Speaking Spanish, or wearing a Mexico hat doesn't necessarily mean you are an illegal immigrant. Nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage.

I don't like illegal immigration. There are legal ways to do it; however, working in immigration I can see how convoluted it seems. Still, you can't just break the laws. That being said it doesn't seem feasible to go after all illegal immigrants and try to deport them. I'd rather find ways to stop the flow of illegal immigrants and ensure that people who are here illegal now are at least paying payroll/income taxes.

What I'd lalso like them to do is go after those who EMPLOY illegal immigrants. As long as there are people who give them jobs, there will be illegal immigrants.

I'm willing to pay more for produce in the cause. ILLEGAL immigration is the term.

If the prices go up substantially I won't be happy. It's hard enough for those with limited income to buy good produce, so I sure don't hope the produce prices go up!

Oh yeah, quick lesson. The INS no longer exists, so they can't actually round anyone up. In 2003 it closed down and now three agencies within Depatment of Homeland Security (what ISN'T part of DHS these days?) are responsible for immigration. The main one is U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS).

 

[carolfoy]

Wow! I must be naive, I guess I didn't know that the US had such a problem with illegal immigrants, I blindly thought it was just 'island nations' like the UK, I totally get your rant, we have areas in this country that are solely overrun by illegal immigrants, we have hostels, schools etc put up solely for these people. They claim our benefits, healthcare and other perks, they're employed by all types of dodgy businesses that can get away with paying them peanuts.
Thanks for the heads up

 

[Disney1fan2002]

I had to laugh watching the news last night. They showed the protester's, and interviewed a few of them on camera. They even said illegal immigrants....yada yada yada.

Do they hear what they are saying? The word illegal is there for a reason. It is AGIANST THE LAW to be in this country without going through the proper channels.

I think I will start up a protest in front of the prison, claiming it is not right that we lock up convicted criminals. They should have a right to walk the streets, shouldn't they?

 

[disneyaggie]

They know when they cross the border they are illegal and don't have rights. Regardless of how hard they work, it doesn't entitle an illegal to legal rights.

Why should they receive the rights that others painstakingly sought for years when they could just hop across a border.

They deserve absolutely NO RIGHTS. Other than the right to be sent back where they came from.

I totally agree!

Why is it that they can sue people in OUR court system, get government benefits and think they have the right to "march", when they are freaking illegal! They should have no access to our court system or government benefits. Period.

I see senior adults DAILY who need government assistance and do they get it? NOOOO! Our system is too busy paying for the illegals.

I listen at times to talk radio and one guy called in yesterday. It was awesome! He said, "I am Mexican. I am legal. All I can say is they should take their flags and march back to Mexico and march in front of Vicente Fox's office asking, 'Where are the jobs? Where are the benefits'? Good idea.

 

[DawnCt1]

Wow! I must be naive, I guess I didn't know that the US had such a problem with illegal immigrants, I blindly thought it was just 'island nations' like the UK, I totally get your rant, we have areas in this country that are solely overrun by illegal immigrants, we have hostels, schools etc put up solely for these people. They claim our benefits, healthcare and other perks, they're employed by all types of dodgy businesses that can get away with paying them peanuts.
Thanks for the heads up

Interesting, I got the impression that Rich didn't think that the UK had a big problem. I frankly had also heard that they/you did.

 

[Virgo10]

Originally Posted by caitycaity
if people think that is a legitimate problem (i personally do not), then you should be trying to make immigration less restrictive so that they can come here legally.

Try moving to a border state. You might change your mind.

Seeing the workers who pick the grove across the street, I have to totally agree. This IS a problem. The answer? I'm not sure.

We see migrants, legal and illegal gathered on the street corners early in the morning just waiting for the various farms to pick them up for the days picking. Strawberries, tomatoes and citrus are still only picked by hand. It's 8 or more hours a day of back breaking work for very low pay. I imagine even the low pay here is better than the no pay in Mexico and other countries.

Let me add that for the most part I agree with everything that's been said on this thread. But to think the loss of the illegal migrant workers won't have an impact on the food supply of this country is just wrong.

 

[Disney Doll]

I am against illegal immigraton because it is illegal.

If you want to move to my country and live and work here, and build a life here, become a citizen, or at least do what is necessary to be here legally.

 

[mickeyfan2]

I've never understood why immigrants move into a new country and spend the rest of their lives hating said country.

If they hate it that much, why not move?



Rich::

ITA - and yes they are ILLEGAL. So they are CRIMINALS.

 

[carolfoy]

Interesting, I got the impression that Rich didn't think that the UK had a big problem. I frankly had also heard that they/you did.

Hi Dawn yes, we've a huge problem here, given that we're seen as soft targets, free schooling, free healthcare etc. Most of the rest of Europe are tougher on these people, so they basically wait at the border control in France and smuggle in on lorries, ferries, the eurostar etc, many have been killed in the process. I have no idea why they'd come here, it mainly rains, its pretty cold even in summer. and they are subject to a lot of (very wrong) racial abuse. I live and work in very small towns, very rural, as a kid there were very few ethnic minorities around, thats not the case so much these days and there are a lot of immigrants (the Bangladeshis, Turks and Chinese) who have restaurant businesses and really add to the communities but there are also a lot of eastern europeans who basically sponge off everyone else. I can honestly say as a kid (I'm 35) I'd never seen a genuine beggar around these parts but they're everywhere now.