This is Us- Season four

[anniemae]

I got Rebecca!

 

[sksjasams]

I got Randall!

Not sure if it’s true, but according to US Weekly, Kevin Hartley said we will know who Kevin’s fiancé is by the end of Season 4...

 

[Searc]

I don't know if any of you follow the This Is Us Facebook page, but they post a text thread with The Other Big 3 (Toby, Beth and Miguel) and they are hilarious and totally on point for each character.

The most recent one is about Baby Jack's first birthday party.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1580709302098171

 

[SaintsManiac]

I have been missing this thread, but I was behind. Finally caught up tonight, so I’m kind of grateful there wasn’t a new episode this week.

I enjoyed both episodes. I think The Cabin might be one of the best of the series. Still surprised at how Kevin has become my favorite character.

 

[tcufrog]

I'm sooooo annoyed at Randall after tonight's episode.

 

[kimblebee]

I'm sooooo annoyed at Randall after tonight's episode.

I totally agree!!! I really think he’s going to go off the deep end shortly. He sees himself as his moms protector but everyone else sees him as worrywart who needs to take a chill pill.

This episode was in my top five favourites for sure. What an amazing episode. I wish I would have done a live reaction post but I hate starting and stopping the episode every time I have something I want to jot down. There was a funny line or scene that I wanted to mention, but now I can’t remember it.

The last 10-15 minutes of the episode just made me so sad. It must be so scary to know that you are going to lose your memory and won’t even remember your family and loved ones. My grandma had Alzheimer’s and I can remember visiting her every week and just knowing she didn’t know who we we’re. It’s giving me a lump in my throat right now and it’s been 27 years since she died.

 

[QueenIsabella]

I'm a huge Randall fan, but I'm 100% Team Kevin on this one. I'm hoping that therapist can help Randall to see that he can't control everything.

My mom died of dementia--fast-developing, not more slowly like most Alzheimer's--and looking back, I can see where she made some decisions that weren't in her long-term best interests. But, she was a grown adult who had most of her faculties, and she had the right to control her own destiny.

 

[SaintsManiac]

I didn't care for last night's episode. I had trouble staying focused on it and I REALLY don't want to watch a "what if Jack lived" fantasy episode next week.

 

[anniemae]

Heartbreaking to see Randall and Kevin arguing. They were so at odds as kids, then seemed to patch things up as adults and now they are back to acting like bickering teens sniping at each other.

This was not my favorite episode. I did like the NY 3 different time lines though.

 

[DisLiss]

I, like others, often couldn't find the "right" answer for me on the quiz. I was hoping I'd be Beth, but instead they said I am:

Spoiler

KEVIN!?!?
"Oh, Kevin. The Manny of our hearts. You’re the stoic one, or at least you try to be. And by stoic we mean you actively have to fight against your dramatic tendencies and be a protector for your siblings even though you may not know how to while also dealing with your own life’s complexities. You’re still learning and growing when it comes to emotional intelligence and, hey – aren’t we all? Just try not to keep all your emotional turmoil a secret and pretend it’s okay. Okay?

Share your results and let everyone know when it comes to the Big Three, you’re NUMBER ONE!"

Hmm...I definitely wasn't expecting that outcome!

 

[Searc]

Did. NOT. Like. Randall at all last night. I'm glad Kevin stood up to him and told him off. His sanctimonious and holier than thou "only I can save Mom" BS was so irritating.

I was glad to see young adult Kevin tell Randall that Rebecca deserves to be happy and their Dad would want that. A flash of maturity from someone who's still working on it almost 20 years later. lol

 

[SaintsManiac]

Did. NOT. Like. Randall at all last night. I'm glad Kevin stood up to him and told him off. His sanctimonious and holier than thou "only I can save Mom" BS was so irritating.

I was glad to see young adult Kevin tell Randall that Rebecca deserves to be happy and their Dad would want that. A flash of maturity from someone who's still working on it almost 20 years later. lol

While I admit that Randall is my spirit animal I am frustrated at his lack of self awareness here. I used to be like him when it came to wanting resolution NOW. I had trouble waiting for things to happen and always tried to push issues. It's only now at age 45 that I have been able to let things unfold organically. I still struggle with it, though.

I will say that there was a similar fight among myself and my 2 siblings when my mother was hitting the end stage of her illness, so I can relate. My issue with Randall last night might have been that it reminded me so much of our issues years ago. I felt anxious when he appeared on screen, every single time!

 

[rlk]

Did. NOT. Like. Randall at all last night. I'm glad Kevin stood up to him and told him off. His sanctimonious and holier than thou "only I can save Mom" BS was so irritating.

This is how I've felt about Randall the whole time. All his big life decisions have been selfish made by him without any real discussion with Beth or his daughters.

 

[kimblebee]

I remembered what the funny line was..

It was when the acting coach said that Kevin described Rebecca as ‘pretty for a mom’ mom LOL That’s just so perfectly Kevin.

And, can we say Kevin in a suit at a red carpet event is

 

[DisneyLover1217]

Randall was frustrating, but you are reminded he was there when Jack went back into the house for the dog. They all were terrified, they all thought he died in there. They went from shear terror to shear joy when he comes out with the dog to shear sorrow when he dies in the hospital. Kevin was not a part of that. He wasn't home. He only experienced the sorrow. I think Randall blames himself so much because he was there, he should have stopped him. Yes, he was a kid and yes it certainly isn't his fault, but I understand why he feels that why and why Kevin doesn't and why Kevin can't understand how Randall feels.

 

[bethbuchall]

Randall was annoying, but I mostly felt sorry for him and hope that he gets help. He blames himself for Jack's death even more than Kate blames herself. Kevin was completely removed from actual event. I'm not saying that he didn't suffer trauma and loss, but he wasn't in the midst of it in quite the same way. I don't think Randall is coming at it strictly from an "I know what's best for Mom" but from an "I could have/should have saved Dad and need to make sure that I do everything possible to save Mom." It's putting blinders on him.

Randall asked Kevin if he ever wonders what it would be like if Jack hadn't died and said that he did every single day. Kevin didn't really change his life because of Jack's death. Yes, he was affected and mourns as anyone would, but Randall changed everything that he had planned when Jack died. Kevin went off to NYC, married Sophie, studied acting just as planned. He would be basically in the same spot if Jack had lived. Randall switched colleges/plans and felt like he needed to protect his mother. He did it intensely (because he does everything intensely) and felt like everything he did he had to do in such a way as to live up to Jack and to make up for "letting" Jack die. Who knows what would be different in his life if Jack had lived? The one scene even showed him meeting William earlier in his life, so he probably has allusions of being able to save him, too, if he'd only known him sooner. That said, I think Randall needs to step back and realize that he has a sweet life with a wonderful wife who he most likely would not have met if his plans had stayed the same. He has worked hard and done well. He doesn't need to be trying to save everyone and control the world. Nine months out of his mother's life for a trial without guaranteed benefits is asking a lot. He has to let go a bit and not wonder if this could save her. He needs to realize that he cannot control the situation. Hopefully, therapy will help him with that.

 

[brockash]

Anybody think that perhaps the "flash forward" we saw last season is actually not a flash-forward, but instead how things might have been if Jack had lived? I have no idea if so, but it was just the first thing that crossed my mind when I saw the previews for next week.

I could be totally off (I can't even remember if Miguel was mentioned in that flash forward of them at the house etc. but it was just a thought that crossed my mind and I thought how well the writers do at throwing us off lol.

 

[Melissa55]

I'm a huge Randall fan, but I'm 100% Team Kevin on this one. I'm hoping that therapist can help Randall to see that he can't control everything.

My mom died of dementia--fast-developing, not more slowly like most Alzheimer's--and looking back, I can see where she made some decisions that weren't in her long-term best interests. But, she was a grown adult who had most of her faculties, and she had the right to control her own destiny.

Yup, I am almost always on Randall’s side, but Kevin all the way.

My dad has dementia. It’s hard to watch someone you’re close to go through that, but you can’t strongarm them into your idea of the “right” thing. Even before my dad had dementia he made his preferences pretty clear, and we have been trying to honor his wishes to the best of our ability. It sucks because it makes things harder on my mom, but she wants to do things his way, and that’s her choice too as his spouse and primary caregiver.

Anybody think that perhaps the "flash forward" we saw last season is actually not a flash-forward, but instead how things might have been if Jack had lived? I have no idea if so, but it was just the first thing that crossed my mind when I saw the previews for next week.

I could be totally off (I can't even remember if Miguel was mentioned in that flash forward of them at the house etc. but it was just a thought that crossed my mind and I thought how well the writers do at throwing us off lol.

I can’t recall any evidence of Miguel at all in last season’s flash forward.

 

[brockash]

Randall was frustrating, but you are reminded he was there when Jack went back into the house for the dog. They all were terrified, they all thought he died in there. They went from shear terror to shear joy when he comes out with the dog to shear sorrow when he dies in the hospital. Kevin was not a part of that. He wasn't home. He only experienced the sorrow. I think Randall blames himself so much because he was there, he should have stopped him. Yes, he was a kid and yes it certainly isn't his fault, but I understand why he feels that why and why Kevin doesn't and why Kevin can't understand how Randall feels.

I also think in a way Randall almost resents or at least has an abandoned type feeling towards Kevin, for in many ways in Randall's mind not being reliable or there as Randall thinks he should be from the night of the fire through most of his adulthood for others. I think Randall has felt like he has had to be the one to make all of the sacrifices to do what he feels is best for his family/mom while Kevin may get a call or a whim to run off and do something and he does. I def. see tons of fault with Randall, but I can also see that side of it in a way.

 

[okeydokey]

I think the fact that Kevin wasn’t there during the fire and Randall was plays a HUGE role in their relationship since that point. Kevin was spared the worst of it. Randall has spent all these years feeling responsible, and he wasn’t responsible at all.

That said, Randall really needs to come to terms with this and I hope therapy will help. Rebecca needs to be in control of her treatment at this point.