The worst part of my WDW experience last week....

[alvernon90]

All of these comments about negative guest behavior leads me to believe WDW still isn't charging enough.

You say this as if people who have more money are more polite and considerate of others. This premise is, to put it mildly, laughable.

 

[ArwenMarie]

All of these comments about negative guest behavior leads me to believe WDW still isn't charging enough.

What's your thought process behind that statement? Just curious.

I think the high prices are part of the problem actually. People spend so much to travel down there, the tickets, the food, the hotels, that they have a desperate sense of wanting to make sure they get theirs.

 

[dbriggsq]

I was at a bus stop last week waiting for the AKL bus.

There were quite a few people waiting and they'd formed themselves into a rough line snaking back from the stop and I joined the end. A couple - perhaps in their 30's - arrived and the lady got in line behind me but the man walked up to around the head of the queue where the bus would stop. There was then a period of about 5 minutes when he kept giving the evil eye to the lady indications that she should join him.

She didn't and eventually he came back to the line to join her - despite his lowered tone I could hear the nasty things he was saying to her about not joining him etc etc and that nowhere does it say form a line.

This made me really sad for her and also for the fact that it should be common courtesy to wait your turn for things that people have been waiting longer for - when did it become the norm to be so selfish.

Just so sad really - we should respect one another.

 

[VikingInMouseEars]

Considering some of the post I have read, I suppose that I should point out that, while yes, I don't grab wheelchairs for front of the line access, I get up and offer my seat to others on the bus, I don't cut in line and will call out those that do...... I also shop for deals, stay off property to save money and when I do stay on property its almost always with the Free Dining Deal. So to those of you that think that the more money you have the politer you are, think again and get off your elitism entitlement horse.

 

[Boo Bear]

I'm a firm believer in karma. What goes around, comes around. I have faith that people who behave like that will get what's coming to them. I've seen it happen enough times to believe it's real.

It's a shame that people act that way, but I just try to mind my own business and not let it put a damper on my spirit.

 

[Laketravis]

What's your thought process behind that statement? Just curious.

I think the high prices are part of the problem actually. People spend so much to travel down there, the tickets, the food, the hotels, that they have a desperate sense of wanting to make sure they get theirs.

Higher prices, potentially lower crowd levels. Lower crowd levels, lower frustration levels.

You say this as if people who have more money are more polite and considerate of others. This premise is, to put it mildly, laughable.

You assume too much.

 

[Marthasor]

Higher prices, potentially lower crowd levels. Lower crowd levels, lower frustration levels.



You assume too much.

Not sure how your illogical statement applies to holiday periods when prices and crowds are the highest. Are there no rude people there on Christmas Day? Certainly no discounts then!

 

[disneydude365]

It wasn't the cast members....for the most part, they were great.
It wasn't the attractions....everything was running smoothly(except for POTC on Saturday night, and the MSEP stalling for a good 15 minutes that same night)
It wasn't the Magic Bands....they worked perfectly
It wasn't FastPass+....I thought it worked pretty well for us, no real complaints there
It wasn't the bus transportation....they ran pretty steadily, even if the lines were a bit long for my liking
It wasn't the food....It was hit-or-miss, but primarily hits

It was the other guests. Not all of them, of course, or even a majority. But the most negative part of our week at WDW was the behavior of some of the other park guests. And this isn't your "massive international tour group"-type story. Didn't see a single one of those all week, actually.

This includes....
-A family who walked beside us all the way out to the bus stop at MK. When they reached the edge of the bus stop canopy, they found an empty wheelchair. At that point, the dad, who had walked with no limp and actually was carrying one of his daughters on his shoulders, sat in the chair and was wheeled to the front of the bus line by his wife, then faked a limp while he hopped onto the bus. We saw the entire thing. And so did someone else on the bus, who saw that same family pull the same maneuver at BTMR earlier in the day.
-Two ladies who threw a tantrum because they weren't allowed to sit in the wheelchair section at the Frozen show at DHS, even though neither of them was in a wheelchair. The CM stood firm and explained that it was for wheelchair parties only, but these two wouldn't stop raising their voices until another CM finally broke down and let them do it.
-More line-cutting(especially at the park entrances) than I can ever recall seeing before.
-More complaining to/about CM's than I can ever recall seeing before.

I'm usually not the "Disney Police", because I'm focused on my own experience and my family's experience. But it was over-the-top noticeable last week. If you fall into one of those categories above, just stop it. Cut it out. It's pathetic. Do things the right way. Especially the wheelchair thing....there are people who LEGITIMATELY need that access. Don't be a scam artist, don't set a bad example for your kids(who, by the way, knew their parents were scamming, and complained about it), and interfere with those who truly need the assistance.

Disney was great. Some of the guests? Not so much. Again, it was the smallest of percentages of guests. But it happened frequently(and blatantly) enough that it stayed with me the whole week.

Ok let me just say this makes me sick especially as someone who's worked so hard to get out of wheelchair to see ppl faking it to get the perks. It may be mean but hopefully karma will show them personally how the downsides far outweigh those perks
I also hate seeing people rude to other guests, but it's their vacation and they are entitled.
Please be nice to everyone you meet it's their vacation too and for many they've saved up a number of years just to go a few days, don't tarnish their trip.
And treat castmembers like family you love, they go above an beyond in service not just for you but every single guest that enters under the Disney arch no need to complain about things they can't control. They are always willing to help you and if your nice about things they might even go even further.

 

[VikingInMouseEars]

Ok let me just say this makes me sick especially as someone who's worked so hard to get out of wheelchair to see ppl faking it to get the perks. It may be mean but hopefully karma will show them personally how the downsides far outweigh those perks
I also hate seeing people rude to other guests, but it's their vacation and they are entitled.
Please be nice to everyone you meet it's their vacation too and for many they've saved up a number of years just to go a few days, don't tarnish their trip.
And treat castmembers like family you love, they go above an beyond in service not just for you but every single guest that enters under the Disney arch no need to complain about things they can't control. They are always willing to help you and if your nice about things they might even go even further.

Well said!

 

[Laketravis]

Not sure how your illogical statement applies to holiday periods when prices and crowds are the highest. Are there no rude people there on Christmas Day? Certainly no discounts then!

The OP's experience and everything described happened last week, not over a holiday period.

It is not illogical to speculate that in less crowded conditions, people are more polite to each other. That is simply human nature.

 

[candacewi5]

All of these comments about negative guest behavior leads me to believe WDW still isn't charging enough.

I find this statement offensive! My family has scrimped and saved for years to make a trip to Disney World. This does not make us rude, entitled, or ignorant! My children are some of the best mannered boys you will see. My husband and I live by the motto do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Everyday we strive to be kind, polite, and considerate. Just because we don't have much disposable income does not mean we should be priced out of a Disney World vacation.

 

[Laketravis]

I find this statement offensive! My family has scrimped and saved for years to make a trip to Disney World. This does not make us rude, entitled, or ignorant! My children are some of the best mannered boys you will see. My husband and I live by the motto do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Everyday we strive to be kind, polite, and considerate. Just because we don't have much disposable income does not mean we should be priced out of a Disney World vacation.

I find it offensive that you think I meant only affluent people are polite! That is not what I said, only your assumption.

Read my other comments. Regardless of your financial stature, standing shoulder to shoulder with thousands of others in a crowded, frustrating mass COULD make you rude. And if not you, certainly others.

Whether they scrimped and saved or won the lottery. No difference.

But higher and higher prices are the most effective damper on demand. And reduced demand means lower crowd levels. And lower crowd levels leads to less frustration. And that can most certainly mean people are more polite to each other - or at least not as rude to each other. Does that mean you'll be priced out of a WDW vacation? Not necessarily, you may just have to scrimp and save an additional year.

The most glaring example I ever witnessed was a packed Main Street when nobody could move. We heard somebody call someone else a "Stupid Mother (you know what)" loud enough for a hundred people to hear it. And that literally set off a chain reaction of insults among others.

And it was all due to a crowded situation. How many ways do I need to explain it?

 

[Kirby]

I've seen on the DIS where the security CM checking your bags actually works both sides and if there is only one line to his right you can start a line to his left. Or a CM taking your order say at Columbia Harbor House has a line to his right you can start a line to his left. Does this not apply to a CM with two MB checkers ( or whatever they are called)? Just curious since I haven't been to WDW in 12 years and am going in two weeks.

 

[VikingInMouseEars]

I find it offensive that you think I meant only affluent people are polite. That is not what I said, only your assumption.

Read my other comments. Regardless of your financial stature, standing shoulder to shoulder with thousands of others in a crowded, frustrating mass COULD make you rude. And if not you, certainly others.

Whether they scrimped and saved or won the lottery. No difference.

But higher and higher prices are the only thing that begin to reduce demand. And reduced demand means lower crowd levels. And lower crowd levels leads to less frustration. And that can most certainly mean people are more polite to each other - or at least not as rude to each other.

The most glaring example I ever witnessed was a packed Main Street when nobody could move. We heard somebody call someone else a "Stupid Mother (you know what)" loud enough for a hundred people to hear it. And that literally set off a chain reaction of insults among others.

And it was all due to a crowded situation. How many ways do I need to explain it?

Peoples understanding of your original statement are based on what you said, not on what you may or may not have meant. You have no right to be offended by how your comment was interpreted when at best it was vague and at worst sounded very elitist.
I also find your reasoning that higher prices will reduce congestion and therefore ease tempers to be faulty. I have more than once heard guest screaming at CM words to effect of "I paid x amount of dollars for this vacation and I demand that you do whatever and treat me extra special". I firmly believe that the more money paid the more this attitude of entitlement will be propagated.m Yes crowds, along with weather and lack of planning effect tempers, but the people who exhibited the behavior the OP told us about are going to act that way regardless of the circumstances.

 

[Laketravis]

Peoples understanding of your original statement are based on what you said.

I didn't "say" anything. I typed the following:

"All of these comments about negative guest behavior leads me to believe WDW still isn't charging enough."

If you want to twist that into some sort of social cast statement, I can't stop you. But it was not what I meant.

And I'm sticking by original intent - crowds cause frustration. Higher prices reduce crowds. Does it totally eliminate morons and a-holes from the parks? No, but it substantially reduces the factors that manifest them.

Case in point, I'm sitting here in another browser session constantly clicking on "Find a Table" because I can't get an ADR for next week. Everything is gone, and it's pissing me off. It could downright make me rude.

And it's because WDW is so damn crowded.

 

[Cyrano]

Thanks for the update.

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