The Villas at Disney's Grand Californian Owners & Lovers Group - 3.0

I wish they still sold a bi-coastal one. It's something I'd consider, depending upon the price. In 2025, we'll be doing 6 park days at WDW and 5 park days at DLR. It gets expensive.
We have been doing WDW and DL in the same trip for the last decade+ and have never bought the dual WDW&DL annual pass, ever. It was always cheaper to buy tickets or the WDW AP and DL tickets separately. I don't think the pass is missed. For it to work out you really needed to frequent Disneyland a lot.

At 6 and 5 days respectively you would have paid more for that pass.
 
We have been doing WDW and DL in the same trip for the last decade+ and have never bought the dual WDW&DL annual pass, ever. It was always cheaper to buy tickets or the WDW AP and DL tickets separately. I don't think the pass is missed. For it to work out you really needed to frequent Disneyland a lot.

At 6 and 5 days respectively you would have paid more for that pass.
Yeah, I remember that pass and discussions around it, and it seemed like it worked best for very frequent DL visitors who also wanted a week at WDW
 

We have been doing WDW and DL in the same trip for the last decade+ and have never bought the dual WDW&DL annual pass, ever. It was always cheaper to buy tickets or the WDW AP and DL tickets separately. I don't think the pass is missed. For it to work out you really needed to frequent Disneyland a lot.

At 6 and 5 days respectively you would have paid more for that pass.

I had the bi-coastal AP (Premier Pass) from the time it came out until it was cancelled in 2021. I am a Disneyland local and go 2-4 times a month and then to WDW twice in a year (for a week and 2 weeks respectively). The pass made sense for me but would not for many others.
 
We have been doing WDW and DL in the same trip for the last decade+ and have never bought the dual WDW&DL annual pass, ever. It was always cheaper to buy tickets or the WDW AP and DL tickets separately. I don't think the pass is missed. For it to work out you really needed to frequent Disneyland a lot.

At 6 and 5 days respectively you would have paid more for that pass.

That's good to know. Thanks!
 
Hi Everyone,

We managed to score a 4 night studio stay at the Grand Cali for May 2025! Very excited, especially since we are not owner's at the VGC, so I was thrilled that I managed to get this.

We've never been to Disneyland so everything will be new to us! I saw talk of a refurb a few pages back. Is that still happening?
I know the grand cali has limited DVC rooms, what is the plan for guest with reservations if the rooms get pulled for refurb?
 
I really hate the Tuesday/Thursday/Sunday thing…. can they PLEASE do something on a non-school night!
I once went to OBB on a Saturday night. Though it was a special one as part of a D23 Expo. But yes, Saturday night would be nice because sometimes we go for just a long weekend (believe it or not, given we live in NC 😆) and the party nights only work for us if Monday happens to be a holiday, which is rare, or we end up having to take a day off
 
TBH it's likely people who rent out confirmed reservations snagging all the Sundays to rent out due to oogie boogie.
Yeah, there is a west coast DVC properties Facebook rental group that does a lot of this garbage—the admins of the group are clearly all mini commercial renters and post in lots of rental groups.

Edit: There are also probably some legit owners using the reservations for themselves but booking multiple days since it’s hard to get Oogie Boogie tickets.
 
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Yeah, there is a west coast DVC properties Facebook rental group that does a lot of this garbage—the admins of the group are clearly all mini commercial renters and post in lots of rental groups.

Edit: There are also probably some legit owners using the reservations for themselves but booking multiple days since it’s hard to get Oogie Boogie tickets.
Commercial use of DVC is supposed to be prohibited. Really wish they would enforce this. I have rented points I cannot use, but in no way is it a business. Seems like a FB group that caters to commercial renters would be a good place to start cleaning this mess up. I just don't think DVC has the stomach for imposing stiff rules or pissing off commercial owners of thousands of points and the resources to tie up all the highly desirable reservations.
 
Commercial use of DVC is supposed to be prohibited. Really wish they would enforce this. I have rented points I cannot use, but in no way is it a business. Seems like a FB group that caters to commercial renters would be a good place to start cleaning this mess up. I just don't think DVC has the stomach for imposing stiff rules or pissing off commercial owners of thousands of points and the resources to tie up all the highly desirable reservations.
My theory is that they are interested in cleaning it up as resort bookings weaken (I think this is more true at WDW), but they want to try to sell as much VDH, RIV, and especially PVB, before the risk tanking the resale market by cracking down on commercial renters. I would love to see a strict crackdown on commercial renters, but I would settle for rules that make it very hard to rent reservations made outside the 7m window.
 
My theory is that they are interested in cleaning it up as resort bookings weaken (I think this is more true at WDW), but they want to try to sell as much VDH, RIV, and especially PVB, before the risk tanking the resale market by cracking down on commercial renters. I would love to see a strict crackdown on commercial renters, but I would settle for rules that make it very hard to rent reservations made outside the 7m window.
I would settle for a rule where you cannot modify a reservation. You have to cancel it and then reserve it again, after waitlist people have a chance. Would only effect a very small number of non commercial renters and not cause a hardship on the rest of us. I agree with your theory, however, I do not think DVC is all that interested in the resale market, but could be wrong there.
 
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My theory is that they are interested in cleaning it up as resort bookings weaken (I think this is more true at WDW), but they want to try to sell as much VDH, RIV, and especially PVB, before the risk tanking the resale market by cracking down on commercial renters. I would love to see a strict crackdown on commercial renters, but I would settle for rules that make it very hard to rent reservations made outside the 7m window.
Exactly - as long as hotel occupancy remains high; Disney will have no interest in policing DVC activities. They know that renting out happens and very much okay with it as renters probably have a much higher spend rate compared to long term DVCers -- especially those weeklong stays at WDW.

We book multiple dates in Oct for OBB given its uncertainty for sure and would be pretty upset at DVC if they restricted our points for our home resort unless they give us guaranteed tickets to go with that restriction (yeah, when Hades comes and hugs us!)
 
Edit: There are also probably some legit owners using the reservations for themselves but booking multiple days since it’s hard to get Oogie Boogie tickets.
I found getting oogie boogie tickets for the date I wanted to be very easy.
 















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