The VGF 2 pricing thread

[AGP]

There are 202 new 'resort' studios being added. The original DVC building accommodations are outlined below:

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Oh wow- so there are only 100 total units right now? So VGF will be heavily weighted to studios…over 80% (247 out of 300 if I’m reading this right). So getting a 1 br will be very tough I’m guessing

 

[KTownRaider]

So getting a 1 br will be very tough I’m guessing

Yes, future availability of 1 & 2 BRs is concern for some some current owners (including me)

 

[Wedgeout]

Oh wow- so there are only 100 total units right now? So VGF will be heavily weighted to studios…over 80% (247 out of 300 if I’m reading this right). So getting a 1 br will be very tough I’m guessing

Plus figure in that these are imitation studios. The actual studios with kitchenettes may disappear very quick with all the new booking competition. Smoke and mirrors calling these studios.

 

[RoseGold]

Plus figure in that these are imitation studios. The actual studios with kitchenettes may disappear very quick with all the new booking competition. Smoke and mirrors calling these studios.

But the new studios will be connecting. I'll be there, booking a room for me and a room for grandma. That wasn't possible at VGF1. I had to put her on a sleeper sofa in the 1BR, or book two studios across the building from each other, which was impossible to get. Two real beds, connecting rooms is big. There are plenty of people who care more about that than the microwave.

The question is how many of the new points are going to want the bigger rooms, and we just don't know that yet. The new studios might be in big demand, even for bigger parties.

 

[Bjaiken77]

I’m going to prefer the new studios to the one in VGF1. More room and an additional bed. We eat out most meals anyhow, so the kitchenette only benefits is marginally.

 

[DVCRad]

I’m going to prefer the new studios to the one in VGF1. More room and an additional bed. We eat out most meals anyhow, so the kitchenette only benefits is marginally.

I agree. The studio kitchenettes are tiny anyway. It’s not like you can easily cook full meals in them. I’d rather have the extra space and a connecting room. Now a 1 or 2 BR I’d expect a full kitchen.

 

[AGP]

I am choosing between new VGF or BLT.. I just love the atmosphere at VGF and have always wanted to buy there.. and at first I was thinking two studios would be great or just as good as a 1br (we don’t typically cook anyway at Disney)…. But then there is no washer/dryer, no king bed, sounds like no real refridgerator, and what if they don’t honor my connecting room request- I wouldn’t want to have my kids away from us or have to split up from my husband…. So much to consider…. I would be one of the new buyers that would want to get 1brs. (Sorry to the existing owners- I would be mad as well!)

 

[Nabas]

So getting a 1 br will be very tough I’m guessing

Maybe.

The unknowns are:

1. How many are booking a VGF1 1-Bedroom today when what they really wanted was a VGF1 Studio?
2. How many are buying into a VF2 Studio but actually want a VGF1 1-Bedroom?

We all know that Studios book up first, and 1-Bedrooms book up last. Will the number of DVC members in Category #1 offset the number of DVC members in Category #2?

 

[js]

When you book VGF going forward, you'll see 2 separate studios options:

'Resort' Studios- 202 in Big Pine Key- subdivided by view: Std, Lake, Theme Park

'Deluxe' Studios- 47 in the current DVC building- subdivided by Std and Lake

This is how it's laid out on the point chart which should translate when you actually book.

Thank you very much for this!

You'll have 4 choices when booking a studio at VGF after the new resort studios are ready for occupancy:

1. Resort Studio Standard View (all in former Pine Key Bldg of GF)
2. Resort Studio Lake View (all in former Pine Key Bldg of GF)
3. Deluxe Studio Standard View (original DVC Bldg)
4. Deluxe Studio Lake View (original DVC Bldg)

Wow. Thank you! I appreciate your breaking it down.

 

[Bjaiken77]

I know I shouldn’t be upset by this. I know how Disney works. But if they are going to have bookings in the Summer, why are we this far into the year without a single detail?

it drives people who are planners, like myself, crazy. I suspect it drives most people on here crazy, as DVC is mostly about being an advanced planner (ie 11 months out). Ok, that felt good to vent.

 

[KTownRaider]

I would be one of the new buyers that would want to get 1brs.

If I were looking to book predominantly 1 BRs, I would take BLT for the win. VGF (and DVC in general) is a lot of $$$ to still stress over getting the accommodations you want during your 7-11 month owner period. Beyond better availability than VGF (there are ~147 1 BRs in BLT), the shorter walk to MK, and much better point chart- the extra bathroom is a game changer. When BLT eventually gets refurbed in 2023/2024 and replaces the 1 BR sofa bed with a murphy bed, the living room will become essentially a second pseudo bedroom/super studio with it's own full bathroom.

Good luck with whatever you decide!

 

[davidl81]

Plus figure in that these are imitation studios. The actual studios with kitchenettes may disappear very quick with all the new booking competition. Smoke and mirrors calling these studios.

I tend to think the new rooms will be more popular than the VGF1 studios. Basically trading a small bar sink and a microwave for a room with two queen beds, more square footage, potentially connecting rooms, all for the same points as VGF1. Sure there will be some people who only travel with two people that will want to older setup, but of coupes traveling with kids I’d bet the two queen beds and more square footage wins out.

 

[rubybutt]

But the new studios will be connecting. I'll be there, booking a room for me and a room for grandma. That wasn't possible at VGF1. I had to put her on a sleeper sofa in the 1BR, or book two studios across the building from each other, which was impossible to get. Two real beds, connecting rooms is big. There are plenty of people who care more about that than the microwave.

The question is how many of the new points are going to want the bigger rooms, and we just don't know that yet. The new studios might be in big demand, even for bigger parties.

You are supposed to take the sleeper sofa when you are with grandma.... everyone knows that!

 

[DVCsloth]

I think the 1br will be a lot more difficult to book at 7 months, especially standard view. We usually book 1br at 11 months so hoping VGF 2 doesn't upset the 11-month availability too much.
Not very excited about studios only and would have liked to have seen the new rooms be slightly less or a separate association altogether. Only good thing is we may be able to book early December studios again, at least until they sell out.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

I think the 1br will be a lot more difficult to book at 7 months, especially standard view. We usually book 1br at 11 months so hoping VGF 2 doesn't upset the 11-month availability too much.
Not very excited about studios only and would have liked to have seen the new rooms be slightly less or a separate association altogether. Only good thing is we may be able to book early December studios again, at least until they sell out.

I added on last April to alternate studios and one bedrooms. Will see just how bad the demand for 1 bedrooms are when I go to book next fall.

 

[zebsterama]

Depending on the price (let me repeat that -- depending on the price ), our plan will likely be to purchase (if available) a FW studio (even a lake view would work for us) in VGF1, and combine with our non-direct points to book a 1 bedroom going forward with our direct/non-direct points.
The FW would be our back-up.

I guess we'll see when it's time to put the $$ on the table, how serious we really are.

I'm hoping 11 months out will not be overly difficult to get a 1 bedroom at VGF going forward.
Think happy thoughts!

 

[Marionnette]

Depending on the price (let me repeat that -- depending on the price ), our plan will likely be to purchase (if available) a FW studio (even a lake view would work for us) in VGF1, and combine with our non-direct points to book a 1 bedroom going forward with our direct/non-direct points.
The FW would be our back-up.

I guess we'll see when it's time to put the $$ on the table, how serious we really are.

I'm hoping 11 months out will not be overly difficult to get a 1 bedroom at VGF going forward.
Think happy thoughts!

Could you purchase a FW in VGF1? Because technically, all of those units are deeded out to existing owners. I'm curious to see how that might play out.

 

[RoseGold]

Could you purchase a FW in VGF1? Because technically, all of those units are deeded out to existing owners. I'm curious to see how that might play out.

The FW are contractual, not deeded. They are allowed to sell a percentage by room count. You don't have to have a deed on the unit that you have a FW for. VGF has surprisingly few FW out.

I would bet most, if not all VGF FW, are still available, even in the VGF1 booking categories. It was such a new product when it was being sold, and at the time, it had a surcharge. I'd be interested in the math of the FW. From CCV, it seems like the math is based on the chart at the time the resort opened, which is an interesting wrinkle in time for this.

 

[Robert Stoddart]

The FW are contractual, not deeded. They are allowed to sell a percentage by room count. You don't have to have a deed on the unit that you have a FW for. VGF has surprisingly few FW out.

I would bet most, if not all VGF FW, are still available, even in the VGF1 booking categories. It was such a new product when it was being sold, and at the time, it had a surcharge. I'd be interested in the math of the FW. From CCV, it seems like the math is based on the chart at the time the resort opened, which is an interesting wrinkle in time for this.

There is a "resort inception chart" that the fixed weeks are based off. In some cases, especially later in the year - the math works well in favour for fixed weeks. I wish we'd known a bit more about them when buying VGF, but was a super new offering to be sure.

 

[RebelScum]

I have an April Use Year . . . So hoping sales start before then. Would love to get the added points from this year and next, which is less than 2 months away. Of course, all this assumes it is priced right!