The Sopranos final episodes (SPOILERS!!!)

It may have been a really disappointing ending but I guarantee everyone will be talking about it tomorrow. From evrything I have seen most of the cast wants nothing to do with a movie so why not do it like Chase did? We all get to make up our own ending from a scenerio that could could in several directions.
 
you guys are trying to make an intreasting ending out of total trash, I want that hour of my life back

I agree I don't want to work that hard for my entertainment. (trying to make up an ending)
 
you guys are trying to make an intreasting ending out of total trash, I want that hour of my life back

I agree I don't want to work that hard for my entertainment. (trying to make up an ending)

ITA.

One more thing before I hit the sheets, did anyone else notice Agent Harris turning into Tony Soprano?
 

It wasn't trash, it just wasn't spelled out for us. If you've watched the Sopranos from the beginning, you got a feel for how they use subtle ness and metaphors. They never wanted to spoonfeed us. This was supposed to be a sophisticated show for the discearning viewer, not just a mob and cop show. From all the circumstances, clues, and set-ups, I'd bet my dog that Tony was shot in the head, just like he spoke of in the episode last week. Galdolfini swore not to reprise the role of Tony. This is the was of keeping this series a cult phenomenon, an icon, by not coming out with Sopranos movies of the week.

I completely agree! My initial reaction to the episode was confusion and disappointment. After careful consideration of the subtle symbolism and the many readily available clues I have come to greatly appreciated the way in which the show ended. The single unifying theme throughout the series has been Tony's relationship with his family. Thus it is only appropriate to finish the show when Tony feels a brief moment of happiness with the family that he feared losing, i.e. the ducks, nine years earlier. There is no doubt that Tony died when the show stopped, the foreshadowing was much too clear to believe otherwise. Others have mentioned the conversation with Bobby in the boat and would like to expand on that. Not only does Bobby say that one would most likely not hear it (death) coming, but Tony reiterates to Bobby that for those in Tony's position it always ends in either death or prison. In Tony's case it is clear that he was afforded the latter. In the end I do not believe a prolonged funeral/search for closure featuring Tony's family would have served as a better ending than what we saw tonight. A bold and thought provoking ending to a great series.
 
if you've watched the Sopranos from the beginning:

it's a perfect ending...life just goes on.

the blank portion of film was to get you realize you were observing their family from the outside, and that's not an option anymore.
 
The thing is no matter how the series ended someone wouldn't be happy. This way, practically nobody is happy.:lmao:
 
I too agree that the ending was just not right!!! Did Tony get shot? Were they focusing on the good times because Tony was going to jail now that Carlos was going to testify? Was Meadow pregnant? Was the guy that went to the bathroom going to get a gun to kill Tony? What about the people that were looking at the pastry counter? UGH!!! This is so annoying! There is no closure at all!!! I want another episode!!!:headache:
 
I completely agree! My initial reaction to the episode was confusion and disappointment. After careful consideration of the subtle symbolism and the many readily available clues I have come to greatly appreciated the way in which the show ended. The single unifying theme throughout the series has been Tony's relationship with his family. Thus it is only appropriate to finish the show when Tony feels a brief moment of happiness with the family that he feared losing, i.e. the ducks, nine years earlier. There is no doubt that Tony died when the show stopped, the foreshadowing was much too clear to believe otherwise. Others have mentioned the conversation with Bobby in the boat and would like to expand on that. Not only does Bobby say that one would most likely not hear it (death) coming, but Tony reiterates to Bobby that for those in Tony's position it always ends in either death or prison. In Tony's case it is clear that he was afforded the latter. In the end I do not believe a prolonged funeral/search for closure featuring Tony's family would have served as a better ending than what we saw tonight. A bold and thought provoking ending to a great series.
I'm confused. Do you think Tony died or went to prison?

I think he died. Him being dead makes an excellent ending. If he didn't die, that was just a lame and stupid way to end the show. So, I'm going with "excellent" over "lame." :)

I also think it emphasizes the whole "dead or in prison" thing. If he hadn't died (which I think he did), he would have gone to prison.

In any event, it is over and there will be no more drooling over him for those of us who thought he was hot. :teeth:
 
in what way?

In any way. That final scene was a set-up of tension from every angle and every person walking into the restaurant. Scene is set and then nothing.

All the symbolism over the years, the significance in music, the last week's shot of Bobby saying you never see it coming...ends with people thinking the satellite went out.

What happens. Did Tony die? Was it the guy set from the bathroom? Was Meadow's parallel parking what saves her life, since she would have been in direct line of fire from the bathroom shot? Was it anyone else there? Did it just close with life going on and on and on. Or what was the after effects if Tony did indeed die?

I'm reading on TwoP so many different inferences to what happened. I understand some people like that sort of thing, but I'm not one of them. ;)

Since Season 1, it was always the question of what will be Tony's fate and that of his family? Here we are all these years later, and it goes black.

Maybe Chase couldn't make everyone happy. But man, just stick to something, have confidence in your decision, and commit to it.
 
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NEW YORK (AP) - Tony Soprano carries on.

The much-awaited conclusion of HBO's "The Sopranos" arrived Sunday night in a frenzy of audience speculation over the fate of New Jersey mob boss Tony Soprano: Would he live or be killed? Would his family die before his eyes at the hands of his enemies? Would he go to jail? Be forced to enter witness protection?

And what of his vindictive rival, Phil Leotardo? Would the Brooklyn boss, who had ordered a hit on Tony, prevail?

In the end, the only ending that mattered was the one masterminded by "Sopranos" creator David Chase. And playing against viewer expectation, as always, Chase refused to stage a mass extermination, or put the characters through any major transformation, or even provide his viewers with comfortable closure.

The most decisive development: Phil was crushed. But there were few other tidy resolutions.

This much-anticipated farewell, the series' 86th episode, was brilliant. But it was also perversely non-earthshaking—just one last visit with the characters we have followed so devoutly since 1999.

Here was Bobby Bacala's funeral (the Soprano soldier was shot dead on Leotardo's orders last week). Here was Tony (series star James Gandolfini) paying a hospital visit to his gravely injured consigliere, Silvio Dante (Phil put bullets in him, too).

Tony's ne'er-do-well son A.J. (Robert Iler) continued to wail about the misery in the world, and voiced a fleeting urge to join the Army and go fight in Afghanistan (Tony persuaded him to get involved in filmmaking, instead). Daughter Meadow (Jamie-Lynn Sigler) harped on her plans to be a lawyer.

Tony visits his senile Uncle Junior (Dominic Chianese) at the nursing home. "You and my dad, you two ran North Jersey," Tony prompts him.

"We did?" says Uncle Junior with no sign of recognition. "That's nice."

Sure, headaches lie ahead for Tony. The Feds are still after him. And Meadow's fiance, Patsy Jr., is a lawyer who may well be pursuing cases that intrude on Tony's business interests.

So what else is new?

The finale displayed their lives continuing, for better and worse, unaffected by the fact that the series is done. The implication was, they will go on as usual. We just won't be able to watch.

Of course, Phil (Frank Vincent) hit a dead end after Tony found him and had him clipped. The execution was a quick but classic "Sopranos" scene: Pulling up at a gas station with his wife, Phil made a grand show of telling his two young grandchildren in the back seat to "wave bye-bye" as he emerged from his SUV. The next moment he was on the pavement, shot dead.

Then you heard the car roll over his head. Carunnnchh! Quick, clinical, even comical, this was the only violence during the hour.

Not that Chase (who wrote and directed this episode) didn't tease the viewer with the threat of death in almost every scene.

This was never more true than in the final sequence. On the surface, it was nothing more momentous than Tony, his wife, Carmela (Edie Falco), as well as Meadow and A.J. meeting for dinner at a cozy family restaurant.

When he arrived, Tony dropped a coin in the jukebox to play the classic Journey power ballad "Don't Stop Believing." Meanwhile, every moment seemed to foreshadow a disaster: Suspicious-looking people coming in the door or sitting at a nearby table. Meadow on the street having trouble parallel parking her car. With every passing second, the audience was primed for tragedy. It was a scene both warm and fuzzy, yet full of dread. It set every viewer's heart racing, for no clear reason.

But nothing would happen, just a family gathering for dinner at a restaurant. Four people among many.

But then, with a jingle of the bell from the front door opening, Tony looked up, apparently seeing Meadow make her delayed entrance. Or could he have seen something awful, something her certainly deserved, about to come down?

Probably not. Almost certainly a false alarm. But we'll never know. With that, "The Sopranos" cut to black, leaving us nourished after eight years. And flustered. And fated to always wonder what happens next.


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I'm confused. Do you think Tony died or went to prison?

I think he died. Him being dead makes an excellent ending. If he didn't die, that was just a lame and stupid way to end the show. So, I'm going with "excellent" over "lame." :)

I also think it emphasizes the whole "dead or in prison" thing. If he hadn't died (which I think he did), he would have gone to prison.

In any event, it is over and there will be no more drooling over him for those of us who thought he was hot. :teeth:

I believe that he died. I was mistaken in writing "latter" as opposed to "former". I also wanted to again emphasize that the finale was incredible. Carmella once referred to a proverbial "giant piano" that hangs over Tony's head everyday and this episode both made the audience fear the piano and forced Tony to acknowledge it. I have always enjoyed the Soprano's because the writers did not try hold the audience's hand nor did they ever insult your intelligence. It is sad that with Soprano's ending there is one less program that actually respects the audience.
 
Odd. I saw, and liked, season 2 (or 3?) of the series but stopped watching it as I'm not one for violence & my xDH would become verbally nasty after watching it.

Seems after all these years I didn't miss much. :rotfl2:
 
I think Paulie was the one flipping. The cat was supposed to represent Adrianna, she flipped. Paulie was so bugged out by the cat and after every conversation with Tony he looked like he felt really guilty. The cat lying down next to Paulie in that last scene was also because he, like Adrianna flipped on Tony.

I also agree Tony is dead, did Tony's dad get shot in a dinner in front of his family? Same ending for Tony, I agree that's why the screen went back and stayed that way, lights out, Tony is dead.
 
Okay, now taking this in for the last 10 minutes and telling DH we are totally convinced that this makes total sense and therefore is the greatest ending! Like another poster said....I feel like I have closure now!!

Now if we could only find the episode where he says that.....

I think it was the "vacation" episode where he gets into a fight with Bobby at the lake.:confused3
 














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