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Mine does! The Mall of America! Of course I don't need it but so many who go there are tourists you see a lot of people looking at the map ;0
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I'm going to WDW in October. I'm diabetic, I've had a stroke and open heart surgery to repair an artery that was shaped like a corkscrew. I'm walking daily to build my stamina for disney. If I find when I get there that I am not strong enough to walk all day in the parks, I WILL rent an ECV. Watch out because I have no experienceBEEP- BEEP
I'll be careful! But don't say I didn't warn you!![]()
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Good idea. Brilliant. Of course, if the person using the mobility assistance device takes this suggestion and waits in line then boards using the stairs... how does the wheelchair or ECV get aboard the bus???????????????????????????????????????????????????????3 Mouseketeers said:This issue seems to be getting worse & worse every time we go to Disney! PEOPLE..... if you can manage to get out of your wheelchair or scooter under your own power, and walk up the exit door stairs, you can wait in line to get on the bus like everyone else!!!!
Yeah. Right. Being disabled is an advantage.3 Mouseketeers said:That is complete b/s and Disney does not and never will do anything about the idiots who take advantage of the disabilities.
Several years ago, I spent a day at Epcot with several friends. I had an ECV, and so did one of them. My issues are mobility; hers were recent heart surgery. Do you know, not once all day did she limp or use crutches. When she wasn't riding the ECV, she was walking the same as just about everyone else on foot.3 Mouseketeers said:take a look at some of the individuals abusing the service for people with ACTUAL disabilities. People who will leave their wheel chair outside the bus and walk on. No limp, no crutches....walking perfect like you and me. Top it off, I hope you never see that same person WALKING around the park that day...no wheelchair in sight. The people abusing this are pure scum.
However, unless you are an individual's medical professional, YOU have no right or method to decide who is qualified and who is abusing the service.3 Mouseketeers said:No I dont ask....but if you would have read what I wrote, I said "The people ABUSING the service are scum" not the people who actually need a wheelchair.
I'm not sure why your jaw dropped so far. Granted, with help, I've been able to lift the parts of an ECV in and out of a car trunk; and into the luggage compartment of a bus. I have mobility issues, not arm problems. And most people permanently in wheelchairs have excellent upper body strength. Too, you don't know what the ECV weighed. There was one on QVC the other night that weighs forty pounds totalStephanieW said:the CM and the woman on the ECV were having a difficult time getting the vehicle onto the bus. She got off the ECV, PICKED IT UP, turned it sideways, and walked it to its appropriate spot on the bus. My DH had to help me pick my jaw up from the floor!
Safety. WHENEVER POSSIBLE, the bus drivers want the Guest to transfer from the wheelchair/ECV to a seat. It's easier and faster to tie down an empty mobility assistance device than one with a person in it. Plus, especially with a person staying in an ECV on a bus, the center of gravity changes.DisneyGirl625 said:Im not sure if this has been said yet but when someone is in a wheel chair and they get on the bus but after getting into the bus and the driver ties down the wheel chair they get out of the wheel chair and sit in another seat. That person ends up taking up like four seats.
Could you please give some examples of where this happens? I can't picture anyplace that the boarding area IS the same for ECV and mobile Guests, but ISN'T regulated or restricted by individual lanes, lines, or spots for boarding the attraction. Please note, there is NO sarcasm here. I genuinely want to know. Thanks!jkid721133 said:Oh, I believe that seeing someone hop off an ECV with the greatest of ease and speed walk and all but knock someone else over to get in front of them on a ride pretty much tells me that whatever their physical ailment may be, it didn't manifest itself as they were magically cured when it came time to rush to get in line first
Huh? I read Eeyore2003's post as MERELY a synopsis of the various annoying/aggravating things posted by OTHER posters!Eeyore2003 said:If you are at Disney you may not--Brer Mike said:WOW - i think when this thread was started he was just asking a opinion of what bothers you? if this bothers you so much than maybe you should just not look at it?
I'll meet you between Petals and theBecause the ECV's move faster, people feel the need to zig-zag in and out of foot traffic and I think it's these turns that end up causing someone to be hit. Let's face it, someone on foot can still stop faster than any motorized vehicle...but why should I constantly have to stop to give up the right-of-way? I'll tell you why -- because I'm afraid not to!
Another thing I find annoying when I read them on here is how people always like to bash the Contemporary for all the conventions they host. Some of their comments like saying it's all business people in suits, no good for families and etc. I agree the Contemporary does host a lot of conventions during the year, however I wish people would not always call the Contemporary a convention Resort and that is because of Coronado Springs. The reason is they also host just as many conventions during the year, however I never read any posts of people calling them a convention Resort and I think it's because they have a better theme then the Contemporary. So because of that people never give Corondao Springs the stereotypes they give the Contemporary and I think that is very un fair. While people can have their own opinions about this subject, I sometimes wish they could see what I am talking about before they make comments like that.
That's the 1st time I ever seen some say that on these boards before.I think of CSR as more of a convention resort than CR.![]()
Another thing that I find annoying and aggravating is when other guests walk in front of you, while a family member is trying to take a picture. I understand that people can be distracted in what their doing, however there are times when it's obvious others are trying to take pictures. I also think the people who give other 10 seconds to take the picture and if they don't they will walk in front of them, are just as rude. If that bothers you so much then try go around those people without walking in front of someone just as they are taking a picture.
While I agree if the hypothetical photo-taker and clan are in an out-of-the-way area and folks are specifically walking in front of the camera just to spoil your shot, I can't say I have a lot of sympathy for anyone attempting to do so in high-foot traffic areas. They can see the massive amounts of foot traffic around them. Said foot traffic will not vanish, redirect itself or wait patiently for the shot-- it's gonna move as inexorably as the tides. Best to go with the flow, wait for an ebb in the traffic, then take the shot.
I think of CSR as more of a convention resort than CR.![]()
Not just elderly people, but mom's holding their sleeping toddlers or babies. I remember how my arms would fall asleep holding my daughter so when we were at Disney, I always, always offered my seat to mom's with their babies as well as the elderly, or young children who were ready to drop. It's just common courtesy. I'm exhausted too, but I'm a healthy adult and I can handle another few minutes to the hotel.
I was quite shocked to see a lot of men just sitting there in their seats while people who should have, in my opinion, been offered seats, weren't. I'm from NY and people talk trash about us a lot, but it's pretty much the norm here to do something like that. And it was the middle aged men! The college kids or young adults were giving up their seat. It was crazy.
That's the 1st time I ever seen some say that on these boards before.
I think of CSR as more of a convention resort than CR.![]()