The Future of Fast Pass Plus

I take offense at this. How do you know it's "their Incompetent IT?" Really you've traced every root cause failure to Disney's IT staff? Why does it have to be their IT people? Why can't it be your ISP? Or you not doing something right Or a problem with your Hardware.

Yep, I own three businesses and have to do it for them since were small. 90% of the problems are people not knowing how to open a file or find a document or putting it in the wrong place or clicking the wrong button

I anticipate there are multiple reasons why fp+S don't save- it could the wireless provider losing your connection, wifi could have disconnected, clicked back instead of accepting the fp+ closing the app before it actually saves and then the problems on disneys end are a possibility as well. Without actually seeing the problems we have no way if knowing how much is user error and how much is tech error

We've already seen one example of user error with legacy fp- not understanding when you can get a second legacy fp- no system is perfect
 
How much of a diminished experience is it really if you don't book at 180 60 30 days? Last night I looked for FP+ for today, as I mentioned in a PP the only attractions not available were A&E, TSMM, Wishes, Illuminations and It's Tough to be a bug. That's still quite a bit of flexibility <12 hours before park opened (I looked at 9:00PM on 7/27 for 7/28 FP+) ADR's as long as you're not looking for BOG, then you can pretty much get whatever you want if you're not traveling at Christmas I've planned trips one week before arrival and been able to get FP+ and ADR's for pretty much anything I wanted. It's not like spontaneity is dead :rolleyes2 The real problem with spontaneity is the popularity of the parks, the more guests, the fewer FP+ and ADR options. Those of you who hate FP+ should be rooting for attendance to go down, that would increase spontaneity options and give Disney a chance to see that they've made a mistake. As long as attendance keeps going up I doubt you'll see much remorse from them.

I wish the availability for the end of Sept was as open as what you have seen. With the parks closing earlier, MNSSHP, and free dining things have booked up quickly. I'm there will be cancellations, people changing plans, etc, but I was very surprised at how soon things became unavailable. It will be our first trip with FP+ so I don't have personal experience to report yet.
 
I wish the availability for the end of Sept was as open as what you have seen. With the parks closing earlier, MNSSHP, and free dining things have booked up quickly. I'm there will be cancellations, people changing plans, etc, but I was very surprised at how soon things became unavailable. It will be our first trip with FP+ so I don't have personal experience to report yet.

Keep looking- even with earlier park closings there will be much fewer people at the parks so you should see things open up
 
What do people expect Disney's customer service to do? Take everybody's word that their FP+s disappeared? Especially on the most popular attractions? Give everyone who called, their desired FP+s? People could just makeup stories and just call customer service without even trying to make FP+s ressies through the system. They cant just overbook attractions. Then people would be on here complaining how long the FP+ lines were.

I know this isnt a popular thing to say but in IT, some problems are caused by the user. I am NOT saying that anyone who is claiming an issue caused it but still sometimes, people dont follow instructions and that causes issues.

Let's take one example…there was a poster on here a week or two ago who made a change to her package on the phone with Disney and lost all of her FPs.

She had to redo all of the work that she put in. Not sure if she got everything back. She lost all of that work because of Disney's faulty systems.

Anyway, when something like that happens, the first thing that should happen is that the case should be escalated to someone who can see and do more than the front-line CMs, whether in the park, hotels, or at home when you are planning. Instead, we know that Disney has cut back on those type of people in the parks anyway. Cheap.

Then, those representatives should work with people in IT (will probably also require more staffing) to figure out if FPs were indeed lost. If they were lost, then they should either be put back in, or there should be a package of "anytime" FPs waiting for the customer at the hotel upon check in. So that's just one example. If it can't be determined whether or not they were lost, then that representative should be empowered to make a call on how to handle the situation from a customer service perspective. Could be giving the FPs back, a gift card, whatever.

I'll give another example that follows the same pattern…when we were there in November, we couldn't get our room key on our MBs. We wasted two hours at the front desk. As soon as the front desk CMs couldn't figure it out after ten minutes or so, that should have been escalated to someone who could. In this case, we lost valuable vacation hours. I didn't ask for anything, but something should have been given out as a token, recognizing that they wasted our precious time.

Even before all of this, there is a very simple thing that can be done. It's the simple act of saying, "I'm sorry this happened." It's customer service rule #1. Studies have shown that even in cases of malpractice in medicine, medical professionals personally apologizing to patients can reduce malpractice lawsuits.

I've used this example on here before, but we were at Great Wolf last year, and a worker in food service was rude to me. I went to the general manager just to tell him, not looking for any compensation, just to vent honestly. He went into the back, came back out, apologized, and took 10% off our entire weekend stay. You can bet I walked away with a pretty good feeling about our trip there.
 

It's not that you can photoshop them it's that you could print a screenshot then change everything and essentially get 6 fps for the day if Disney just took people at their word

No, and no... The new one's would be in the system, right?

They lost the data - production data.

So..... where's the timestamped confirmation numbers Disney should be able to compare? Where's the backed-up data before they made a a system change that deleted it? Where are the checks and balances every other reservation system employs?

Bottom line: they're still making core changes to the data structures and data fetch processes --- on a production system. Not a good thing, at this stage.....
 
AH! there it's the illusion of some control you are missing. Okay got it. It's the machine vs you. This I can understand, I don't agree, but at least I can understand it.

My own personal reliability vs. Disney IT? It's not even a close call. That's not to say IT in general. Just Disney's IT. Disney puts out a great product. But their IT sucks. And now they have put access to that great product in the hands of that IT department. It used to be that you had to deal with crashing phone and IT systems planning for your trip, but once you stepped foot in the park, you could leave the IT side of it behind you. Now you can't.
 
Oh please. I take it you work in IT? My husband does too. Its not us, or the ISP or our hardware. It's Disney. Full stop.

Okay dazzle me with your root cause analysis that shows EVERY thing leads back to Disney IT staff. Show us the evidence that it's none of those other things, including not bugs in the Host Operating system.
 
I'll probably get flamed for this. I feel there are a lot of 'entitled' people out there, it is all about them, they hate FP+ so lets get rid of it, MDE is sooo difficult and because they cannot get a FP+ for the day and exact time they want they moan, a little bit of chilling and flexibility people, you are on vacation, not on an expedition to Outer Mongolia. And as others have said, if you hate what Disney are doing then try somewhere new.

Here's positive feedback............I completely agree with you :thumbsup2

However, many of those complainers and folks who say they aren't coming back, then whine about how that is a fallacious argument. As you, I don't believe it is...........I think they just like to complain :thumbsup2

Doug :goofy:
 
I think FP+ is great for parents with young kids. I think I've been able to minimize some wait times and avoid epic meltdowns. I'm an organized person and a planner. I think that if you're going to go to Disney during peak times, you have to do some planning on the front end to maximize your time there.

Next time we go as a family it will be a non-peak time and I won't have to do so much prep work.
 
So their Incompetent IT means guests get screwed..,and that's better how?

Btw..,just checked MDE and it "can't locate your FP reservations at this time".

Maybe its you...............they find mine without issue :confused3

Doug :goofy:
 
I think it's because we are going during free dining and have a large party. (7 people) All though when I looked it shows that free dining isn't available for our dates, so I'm not too sure about that. We are going from October 13th to the 19th. I'm hoping that I'll be able to snag some closer to our trip due to people canceling, but I've got to admit, stalking the dining website is not a fun game to me at all! I find it super annoying and frustrating to have to keep checking for openings.

Remember, free dining is for the length of your stay. If your first day is the last day of FD, you get it for the whole trip. Being at the tail end of FD, the folks who are there for two weeks starting just before you have FD for the entire time, also. Makes for a lot of ADR's taken up.
 
Not a fan of FP+, but I agree it's here to stay. However, having said that, we always stay deluxe so we will enjoy getting more FPs as a perk for our $$$ if that ever comes to pass...
 
dkrauss said:
Maybe its you...............they find mine without issue :confused3

Doug :goofy:

Clearly I've been targeted by Disney LOL!

I said in a previous thread that I was going to make a drinking game of it. Every time there is a glitch, you drink! At least then we won't Care about the glitches!
 
I've used this example on here before, but we were at Great Wolf last year, and a worker in food service was rude to me. I went to the general manager just to tell him, not looking for any compensation, just to vent honestly. He went into the back, came back out, apologized, and took 10% off our entire weekend stay. You can bet I walked away with a pretty good feeling about our trip there.

Disney has done this for me in the past as well, actually giving me a free night or two because of a couple of major issues. A missing fast pass does not deserve compensation.
 
I think the PP was referring to the FP practice of being able to ride the E-tickets back to back to back to back using paper. That is the biggest reason people say it won't work for them, they want the headliners only and want to ride them multiple times without a significant wait. Or the other argument about being able to pull 10+ FP's in a day?

ahhhhhhhhhhh so if your statement is accurate........:scratchin.....these complainers had a loophole/process that benefited them, allowed them to hoard FP's........to the detriment of other park visitors. Now Disney has closed that loophole.....and their upset. :scratchin

Really...............:rotfl2: From my point of view they're bad sharers! If your statement is accurate....

Doug :goofy:

Now lets see how many come back to deny what you wrote :wave2:
 
NYDisGuy said:
Disney has done this for me in the past as well, actually giving me a free night or two because of a couple of major issues. A missing fast pass does not deserve compensation.

ArwenMarie said she spent 2 hrs trying to get room key on MB. 2 hrs is a long time in my opinion. Especially if it's 2 hrs at the beginning of a day at rope drop. I can easily get 6 rides during 2 hrs first thing in the morning. And if I missed A&E or 7dmt I would most certainly expect to be compensated b/c now I have to use a 2hr standby line.
 
I don't think there is a non-peak time anymore.
It's all relative- February is still much less busy than July 4th but I'm guessing Disney is very happy that it is relatively busier in February 2014 vs February 2007 and we won't be seeing the system go away anytime soon
 
ahhhhhhhhhhh so if your statement is accurate........:scratchin.....these complainers had a loophole/process that benefited them, allowed them to hoard FP's........to the detriment of other park visitors. Now Disney has closed that loophole.....and their upset. :scratchin

Really...............:rotfl2: From my point of view they're bad sharers! If your statement is accurate....

Doug :goofy:

Now lets see how many come back to deny what you wrote :wave2:

You must be new. :sad2:
 


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