The Duggars family TV show premieres this Sat.

[hentob]

BTW Has anybody notice a parallel with a famous family?

Ah, don't you mean perpendicular?

And, yes, I do.....

 

[chobie]

Yes--Again, perpendicular to WHAT!?!?!?

How dare you be amused by a TV show!

 

[mickeyfan2]

Ah, don't you mean perpendicular?

Yes I did mean perpendicular to a famous family.

 

[A4Disney]

One doing the laundry (FOR 18 people)
One doing the cooking (FOR 18 people)
One washing the dishes (FOR 18 people)

See where I'm going here? *I* wouldn't do the laundry, cooking, dishes for 18 people, why on EARTH would I ask an 11yo to???

You can get to know the nature of the people by reading their own website in addition to all the media they produce.

As soon as baby is weaned, its care (COMPLETE care) is handed over to another child. The older children must completely care for their buddies, which, essentially makes THEM the parent. In addition to the physical care giving, they also have to "help" the younger ones learn violin (and maybe piano, I thought I read that somewhere) and assist with lessons.

It boils down to they wanted a publicity machine and they made one. The level of parental selfishness is astonishing.

Michelle even said that having her first 5 was the hardest because she had to do all the care taking herself and now with the buddy system it's easier...

 

[A4Disney]

Maybe I am wrong but I thought they had 4 washers and 4 dryers for the new house.

No,you are right.They were all front loaders so they looked similar but it was 4 and 4

 

[Galahad]

Michelle even said that having her first 5 was the hardest because she had to do all the care taking herself and now with the buddy system it's easier...

This is one aspect to the objection to these folks that I don't understand. What is wrong with older siblings having some (or even a lot) of responsiblities for younger siblings? It's not a new or remotely abusive idea.

 

[Buckalew11]

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The little boy in the trench laying the gas line is a big OSHA no no. The trench went 2 ft-about the same height as the boy. Sure it would have been easy to pull the little guy out if the sides collapsed, but no one can go in a trench as the same height as yourself without trench walls. Maybe someone should send OSHA a tape of that illegal work situation.

At the end of the taping, the dad made a comment how nice it was to spend time with his older boys building the house. Otherwise he said, if they wouldn't have built that house, he wouldn't have had the time.

I noticed that trench and the little boy also. It really bothered me. DH is a FF/paramedic who is trained in trench rescue and trenches of any size "scare" me.

I think when the dad said, "I wouldn't have had the time" that he meant building the house was a special time for them to bond. If they hadn't built the house they wouldn't have had "that" time together. Not that they wouldn't have time together.

 

[chobie]

This is one aspect to the objection to these folks that I don't understand. What is wrong with older siblings having some (or even a lot) of responsiblities for younger siblings? It's not a new or remotely abusive idea.

Why do people supporting the Duggars keep throwing that word abusive out? No one who disagrees with their choices has used that word.

 

[kdibattista]

Although I may not agree with their choice to raise their children... it is their choice. They may be a bit "creepy" but... whatever. You watched the show so you were contributing to the "ratings" and therefore the advertisements and free "charity". I think many people here are looking for any reason to condemn them and I think some here also just want to up their post count.

Would I raise my family that way... heck no!!
Do I think it's normal... no!!!

But if we went back a couple generations I'm sure they would be looking at what we do consider "normal" and thinking we just stepped off the freak train.

That's what makes the world go round.

 

[chobie]

Although I may not agree with their choice to raise their children... it is their choice. They may be a bit "creepy" but... whatever. You watched the show so you were contributing to the "ratings" and therefore the advertisements and free "charity". I think many people here are looking for any reason to condemn them and I think some here also just want to up their post count.

Would I raise my family that way... heck no!!
Do I think it's normal... no!!!

But if we went back a couple generations I'm sure they would be looking at what we do consider "normal" and thinking we just stepped off the freak train.

That's what makes the world go round.

I have no problem with contributing to their charity. It just adds to the argument that this is not about God --is about all the Peppridge Farms bread you can get.

 

[OhMari]

Does anybody see this home becoming a church and then tax free. He needs to do that before the 2007 tax season, or he will get too many 1099s for the free stuff. They are not great parents but great scam artists.

BTW Has anybody notice a parallel with a famous family?

It will be interesting to see if this happens. Did anyone catch how much the family spends at Aldi's for groceries. My husband was talking and I missed it. If I heard correctly, I thought he said $200.

 

[Brier Rose]

Staight up and down would be vertical not perpendicular. The vertical stud would be perpendicular to the horizontal stud. This misuse of the word is what is so funny.

And again..the father was explaining to them..in his words,

"We're going to screw the bottom in (of the beam), making sure that it's right on the black mark in the center, screw it in on both sides, then we're going use a level to make sure each one of the studs is straight up and down." (to the line on the floor)

Then the mom says to the kids..this is perpendicular.

Perpendicular....

Definitions of perpendicular on the Web:

a straight line at right angles to another line

a Gothic style in 14th and 15th century England; characterized by vertical lines and a four-centered (Tudor) arch and fan vaulting

intersecting at or forming right angles; "the axes are perpendicular to each other"

plumb line: a cord from which a metal weight is suspended pointing directly to the earth's center of gravity; used to determine the vertical from a given point

VERTICAL : at right angles to the plane of the horizon or a base line; "a vertical camera angle"; "the monument consists of two vertical pillars supporting a horizontal slab"; "measure the perpendicular height"
an extremely steep faceextremely steep; "the great perpendicular face of the cliff"

 

[Galahad]

Why do people supporting the Duggars keep throwing that word abusive out? No one who disagrees with their choices has used that word.

I'm not "supporting" the Duggars. I have no interest in living the way they do. My reason for citing the word "abuse" is to circumvent the argument before it is made (as in "but it's abusing to make kids do their siblings laundry"). So what is wrong with a hierarchical way of running a household?

It's not really a matter of "disagreeing" with their choices. They are being profoundly ridiculed with very little information about them. If there had been a show about another family with a different life style and posters ridiculed them for it they would be pounced on for their backward bigotry.

 

[3princesses4us]

It will be interesting to see if this happens. Did anyone catch how much the family spends at Aldi's for groceries. My husband was talking and I missed it. If I heard correctly, I thought he said $200.

I'm almost sure it was $673 or something in that range...

Alright, I'll ask: What famous family?! I've been racking my brain- the Osmonds? the Culkins? Somebody give me a hint...

And enough with defending the perpendicular remark! It was hysterical to most of us, that's all...

 

[mickeyfan2]

Sorry a level makes a stub vertical NOT perpendicular. There is no measurement of the angle at the base which would have to be 90 degrees IF they are perpendicular to each other. So she is using the word wrong.

 

[chobie]

I'm not "supporting" the Duggars. I have no interest in living the way they do. My reason for citing the word "abuse" is to circumvent the argument before it is made (as in "but it's abusing to make kids do their siblings laundry"). So what is wrong with a hierarchical way of running a household?

It's not really a matter of "disagreeing" with their choices. They are being profoundly ridiculed with very little information about them. If there had been a show about another family with a different life style and posters ridiculed them for it they would be pounced on for their backward bigotry.

Any time people are being pounced on for backward bigotry is when their views are backed up with calls for legislation to make those choices illegal or constitutional amendments to prevent them from making those choice or allowing them to be discriminated against for those choice.

There are no laws or amendments currently in place or even being considered that would outlaw the Duggar's choice. If there were then this arugement that some people are being hypocritical or intolerent would have merit.

However, no one here or anywhere has suggested that they NOT be allowed to make the choice. That would be bigotry and intolerance.

 

[Galahad]

However, no one here or anywhere has suggested that they NOT be allowed to make the choice. That would be bigotry and intolerance.

So if somebody declares they don't want their child to have a gay teacher but they don't advocate a law or rule against gays being ALLOWED to teach, they they aren't bigoted or intolerant?

 

[Brier Rose]

Sorry a level makes a stub vertical NOT perpendicular. There is no measurement of the angle at the base which would have to be 90 degrees IF they are perpendicular to each other. So she is using the word wrong.

He was talking about in reference to the line on the floor.

Do you have a thesaurus?
Nevermind..I'll save you the trouble..

Main Entry: perpendicular
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: standing
Synonyms: erect, on end, plumb, sheer, stand-up, standing, steep, straight, straight-up, upright, vertical
Antonyms: horizontal
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
Copyright © 2006 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.

Main Entry: vertical
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: upright
Synonyms: bolt upright, cocked, erect, on end, perpendicular, plumb, sheer, steep, straight-up, up-and-down, upward
Antonyms: horizontal, prone
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
Copyright © 2006 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.

This is so stupid.

 

[ducklite]

this link was on their family's website.
http://www.wholesomewear.com/page-3.html

From that web site:

"And the looser fitting taslan scoop-necked romper outer garment gives a stylish modest look."

Stylish?

While I have no problem with them having their kids dress this way--that is truly their choice, it can't be terribly comfortable, and I think "stylish" is about the last thing I'd say to describe it.

Anne

 

[chobie]

So if somebody declares they don't want their child to have a gay teacher but they don't advocate a law or rule against gays being ALLOWED to teach, they they aren't bigoted or intolerant?

If I said that I would not want Michelle Duggar as a teacher for my child because of her lifestyle choice that would be bigoted of me.

As long as she could teach, to not want my child in her class would be bigoted on my part because there would be no other reason for me to think her personal choices would negatively affect my child.