The bus...

[wendy522]

I am sensative about this topic. I am a mother of 8, I have been to Disney many times pregnant. It is not a disease nor is it a handicap nor did I earn a seat just because I was pregnant. I got myself in that position, if it was that hard on me than maybe I should of re-thought the trip. I chose to go to Disney pregnant knowing there is lots of walking and lots of heat.

I always sit with at least one child on my lap as does my husband and so do some of the older kids. I get very upset at those gentlemen who sit in there seats and watch little one hold on their parents, while that parent has a child in one hand as well as grasping a stroller.

But always always give up your seat for the elderly.

 

[disney_bob]

I'm not saying this because it is or isn't my opinion. I do, however, find it interesting that people refer to it as the "gentlemanly" thing to do. I've heard that a lot of what people consider to be "gentlemanly" is considered sexist by a (small) group of people. An example from the thread: An "able bodied" man will give his seat up for a female, child, or the elderly but not for another "able bodied" man. Some might view this as the man feels the female, child, and elderly are inferior.

*shrug*

 

[sdzman]

I will always offer my seat to a woman, child or anyone older than me. It's what I was always taught and IMO it's the right thing to do. Besides it makes me feel good.

Dont automatically flame someone for not doing it though. On our last trip I had a herniated disc in my back. Sitting hurt, standing was unbearable. There was no way to tell by looking at me but I needed that seat.

 

[queendisney]

If at the end of the day DH and I are fortunate enough to get a seat we just take it as read that we will both get up and offer out seats to somebody that may need it. We are both fit and able and have absolutely no problem at all with that. We both find that people who are standing DO NOT expect a seat, they know they could have waited for the next bus and I can't really see what a big deal it is to show some kindness to a lady, gentleman holding a small child that has now fallen asleep in their arms a seat. Surely this is just manners. We don't feel like we have to, we just want to as its really no big deal as what maybe a 10 min easy bus ride for us could be a traumatic one for others. Its a no brainer.

 

[FatOldHillbillie]

I was taught that Chivalry was required of men. I dont know if that was taught to the fairer sex and quite frankly it looks like it hasnt been tought to the latest generations. However I do know that if you listen to the annoucements on the busses that it states that you are "required to offer you seat to young children and people with mobility concerns".
IMO if a healthy man doesnt offer his seat to the mentioned classes of people then he isnt a man (instead a selfish spolied brat that would have been better off wearing a skirt). On the other side 3, 8 year old kids sitting in chairs when an elderly couple is obviously in distress just cheezes me off at the rude parents of those brats. I've had a hip replacement in the last 14 months and yes i offer my seat to small children, elderly folk, and those i deem to be in need.
Suck it up Francis!

 

[FatOldHillbillie]

um you are contradicting what you said on an earlier post to me. In the earlier post you stated you stayed at inexspensive off site motels and in this post you seem to state that you stay on property.
Which one is it?

 

[StitchSpawn]

I'm not saying this because it is or isn't my opinion. I do, however, find it interesting that people refer to it as the "gentlemanly" thing to do. I've heard that a lot of what people consider to be "gentlemanly" is considered sexist by a (small) group of people. An example from the thread: An "able bodied" man will give his seat up for a female, child, or the elderly but not for another "able bodied" man. Some might view this as the man feels the female, child, and elderly are inferior.

*shrug*

That is the silliest thing I have ever heard and I have no idea why you posted it. I don't know if you think that it is true or if you were trying to start a fight of some kind between posters, but it doesn't make any sense. If men or any group felt superior, wouldn't they get to sit down? Like when the whites got to sit in the front of the bus in the South and the blacks how to sit in the back? Who gets worse seating because they are superior? That's ridiculous.

PS, I am a healthy, un-preggers, 24-yr-old female who would get up for any older man who needed the seat more than me, and I wouldn't think he was inferior or superior to me. I can handle the parks and then standing on the bus without discomfort, some can't as well. I would probably get up for a man my age or younger than me too, if they had any health reason they needed to sit. It's called, "being considerate" or "manners" and I don't know why people have to bring sexism in it to ruin it. There is nothing wrong with being polite or considerate of others no matter what sex or age they are.

Also, remember WDW is in the South and we like our manners! I never understand going up East why people can't just say excuse me or thank you every once in a while. I have even been criticized up East for being to polite. I think it's silly, but I'm a Florida southerner.

I think this was posted on purpose to cause a fight and I'm only responding to say that was ridiculous to post. Sorry if that sounds mean. It's how the post comes across to me.

 

[StitchSpawn]

I guess except for if you were talking about in the olden days they used to think women were delicate flowers that needed special treatment because they are so delicate, but I don't think most people view women that way anymore. I also thought that was always funny since women gave birth and waxed their legs and wore corsets, made of metal in the tudor age and then of whale bone. That doesn't sound "delicate" to me.

 

[JJ in wonderland]

I would give up my seat in a second to someone (man, or women) who looked like they really need a seat (mostly if they were physically handicapped or very elderly) In the subway I always stand because oh well I have been on my feet for so long whats another 10-20 minutes

But my real reason for posting is just to give everyone a little insight.......when you see someone sitting and you think they are "able" to give up their seat you can not just assume they are not physically handicapped themselves. I am 25, very energetic, and look like I am in amazing shape but I need a hip replacement and after a day of walking I am seeing stars sometimes, (due to a dislocated hip at birth) so it annoys me when someone sees someone young and "healthy" and assume they should give up there seat.

 

[minnie mum]

I'm not saying this because it is or isn't my opinion. I do, however, find it interesting that people refer to it as the "gentlemanly" thing to do. I've heard that a lot of what people consider to be "gentlemanly" is considered sexist by a (small) group of people. An example from the thread: An "able bodied" man will give his seat up for a female, child, or the elderly but not for another "able bodied" man. Some might view this as the man feels the female, child, and elderly are inferior.

*shrug*

I hardly think that the term "gentlemanly" is a sexist term. It is simply a term which is specific to men. If addressed to a woman, it would be (perhaps) "ladylike". In both cases I think that it is synonyous with "courteous", "thoughtful", or even "well-mannered". In non of these instances does it infer "able-bodied"of either gender.

I am a female who would be hard pressed to call myself able bodied, but I still try for courtesy whenever possible, including giving up my seat for someone who appears to need it more than I do. I would like to think that this was the ladylike thing to do. What would YOU call it if a man did the same thing? Where does inferiority or superiority enter into it?

 

[Always Dream]

If you think the Disney buses are bad, try riding the regular bus in your closest metropolitan area.


I agree! Try the T in Boston! If you're lucky enough to get on during rush hour (and by that I mean you didn't get shoved/crowded out of the way), consider it a great ride if you don't see or hear something totally foul, nevermind getting a seat.

Of course I do expect a heck of a lot better at Disney! And I do think most people try to help each other out.

 

[JJ in wonderland]

If you think the Disney buses are bad, try riding the regular bus in your closest metropolitan area.


I agree! Try the T in Boston! If you're lucky enough to get on during rush hour (and by that I mean you didn't get shoved/crowded out of the way), consider it a great ride if you don't see or hear something totally foul, nevermind getting a seat.

Of course I do expect a heck of a lot better at Disney! And I do think most people try to help each other out.

Thats actually funny that you say that because when I posted I was thinking in NY its every person for themselves because when I was in Boston on crutches everyone tried giving me there seat and I was so confused. But either city you are also just lucky if the air-conditioner is working and the person next to you isn't sweating on you, or worse throwing up on you. And I do not know how the T is on a regular bases but the subways are never running right.

When I was down in Disney I was shocked at how efficient and nice the buses were but it really sounds like I am one of the few that feel that way

 

[TheTurners]

I think anyone that can be on their feet in the parks can manage to stand on the buses. I don't understand why everyone goes nuts on this topic--does everyone think, "Ok, it's bus time, I must sit down now"? Be thankful for the AC and the fact that you'll be in your bed soon.

 

[fallen_angel727]

Ok....as much as I'd like to use the Disney Bus for transport, most being that I drive alot for work...close to 1000 a week.

I still can't get over how rude and inconsiderate people are on the disney bus! So....u all take that bus. AND I will stay at MK till 3am!

The resort buses still run at 3AM during EMH? Sweet! That just made my planning easier!

 

[Karbase8]

Thank you Captain Jack and Heart for being nice people on this thread. I can't believe how rude people are although I see this every day on Public Transportation, men sitting on the front of the bus when young mothers, pregnant women, elderly, disabled do not move!!! Now I see from this post it won't be much different in Disney so I will be prepared it's ashame there is not much kindness left in the world and especially in Disney World. I don't mind standing I worry about children as well as my self who are short in height having a hard time reaching the overhead to hold on to and falling, but I can do it. And no a gentleman should be a gentleman period.

 

[KorieDWnut]

We are a family of 5 and take up 2 seats. Dh and I have all 3 kids on our laps. Dh will usually give up his seat if he sees someone he thinks will need it, but otherwise we do our part by taking up as little space as possible to give everyone a fair shot at a seat, and our oldest is 12.

 

[disney_bob]

That is the silliest thing I have ever heard and I have no idea why you posted it. I don't know if you think that it is true or if you were trying to start a fight of some kind between posters, but it doesn't make any sense. If men or any group felt superior, wouldn't they get to sit down? Like when the whites got to sit in the front of the bus in the South and the blacks how to sit in the back? Who gets worse seating because they are superior? That's ridiculous.

PS, I am a healthy, un-preggers, 24-yr-old female who would get up for any older man who needed the seat more than me, and I wouldn't think he was inferior or superior to me. I can handle the parks and then standing on the bus without discomfort, some can't as well. I would probably get up for a man my age or younger than me too, if they had any health reason they needed to sit. It's called, "being considerate" or "manners" and I don't know why people have to bring sexism in it to ruin it. There is nothing wrong with being polite or considerate of others no matter what sex or age they are.

Also, remember WDW is in the South and we like our manners! I never understand going up East why people can't just say excuse me or thank you every once in a while. I have even been criticized up East for being to polite. I think it's silly, but I'm a Florida southerner.

I think this was posted on purpose to cause a fight and I'm only responding to say that was ridiculous to post. Sorry if that sounds mean. It's how the post comes across to me.

Whoa, calm down there. I'm glad you'd get up for someone who was in need. But like I said, I've seen the argument I posted made but that doesn't mean its my opinion. And it wasn't an argument as in "I'm superior therefore I should sit". It was an "I'm not as delicate as you and can stand therefore I will allow you, the less strong person to sit" stance.

It is completely the argument you put forth in your second post about the "olden days". I am stating that not everyone has moved on from that.

http://blogs.forbes.com/jennagoudreau/2011/06/28/is-chivalry-sexist/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/relation...lly-benevolent-sexism-feminists-conclude.html


PS. While you may think its cool to put things like "you're just trying to start a fight" and "this is a ridiculous post", think how someone else might react to that. Your post itself sounds a bit inflammatory.

 

[maxiesmom]

I think anyone that can be on their feet in the parks can manage to stand on the buses. I don't understand why everyone goes nuts on this topic--does everyone think, "Ok, it's bus time, I must sit down now"? Be thankful for the AC and the fact that you'll be in your bed soon.

You would be wrong. My mom has had bad knees for years (thanks for handing them down to me, mom!) and while she has managed gimp thru the parks ok, there is no way she would now be able to keep her balance on a moving bus.

There are times too where I have limped my way thru the parks, and only known I was limping when it was pointed out to me. I may not notice anything when walking, but standing on a moving bus it becomes apparent very fast!

 

[cluvsdisney]

We don't take the bus too often, but when we do we usually stand if the bus is full. Although, if we are really beat, we don't feel bad about sitting when others are standing.

 

[Schmeck]

I was taught that Chivalry was required of men. I dont know if that was taught to the fairer sex and quite frankly it looks like it hasnt been tought to the latest generations. However I do know that if you listen to the annoucements on the busses that it states that you are "required to offer you seat to young children and people with mobility concerns".
IMO if a healthy man doesnt offer his seat to the mentioned classes of people then he isnt a man (instead a selfish spolied brat that would have been better off wearing a skirt). On the other side 3, 8 year old kids sitting in chairs when an elderly couple is obviously in distress just cheezes me off at the rude parents of those brats. I've had a hip replacement in the last 14 months and yes i offer my seat to small children, elderly folk, and those i deem to be in need.
Suck it up Francis!

Well, since the actual age of Chivalry saw women being treated as being much beneath the worth of men, without the ability to hold property, you might not want to equate your sense of being polite to being chivalrous. I don't think it is uite pc to call females the 'fairer sex' either - makes them sound pale and frail, kwim?

I've also never heard a bus announcement that people are required to give up any seats besides the ones designated by signs for the physically disabled. If I have made the choice to wait for the next bus so I get a seat, I am not giving it up to those who poorly plan.

That's the great thing about the US - we are all equal!