Thankgiving Drama started today... Am I wrong here? Update in post #113.

Because, like I said, I have a big trip planned, and I promised my BIL that I would be bringing Pecan pie, Prime Rib, and Green Bean Casserole with me, and nobody who can help me since my wife is not able to help.

I'll be getting up around 8ish.... be cooking by 9ish... and be on the road to where I am planning on going by noonish.

BTW, and certainly no malice on this.... if Dr. Phil says something, I'm of the mind to do the exact opposite. I think he's a fraud and scam artist. But, I get your point, nonetheless. :)

Make the the pie the night before, have the prime rib in the oven while you drive your mom to your brother's, and make the green bean casserole at your BIL's house (how do you plan to keep it warm for that long drive anyway?).

But really, if you don't want to drive your mom to your brother's house, just don't do it. It really is his responsibiity if he invited someone who he knows does not drive.
 
Do you have any other family that lives in your area that is going that way? Friends? Friends of friends? :) :upsidedow

J/K kind of, about the friends.
 
PD, no you're not wrong in my opinion. I also think your brother is trying to use you. Having said that, I was a rotten teenager and I would do it for my mom (who wouldn't ask) because I'm still trying to make up for that!:rolleyes1 (in my own mind, not that dmom would want me to feel tht way)
 
Make the the pie the night before, have the prime rib in the oven while you drive your mom to your brother's, and make the green bean casserole at your BIL's house (how do you plan to keep it warm for that long drive anyway?).

But really, if you don't want to drive your mom to your brother's house, just don't do it. It really is his responsibiity if he invited someone who he knows does not drive.

Heck, THAT is the easy part. All you do is wrap it up in towels and put it in a cooler chest.... Just Like I will be doing with the prime rib. Will stay warm for hours that way.
 

OP, I feel like I am stepping out of bounds here, but you also need to take care of your own health and well being. You have your own immediate family that needs you more than ever given the recent surgery. If you are stressed or get sick, who will take care of things in your home? Doing the cooking and the drive to your BIL's on Thanksgiving already puts a lot on your plate that day - making the drive in the opposite direction and back that morning does not seem like a wise plan, especially since your brother should be able to handle it. I hope your mother will come to understand that.

Take care, and I hope you have a great Thanksgiving day.

Thanks.... That is now 2.5 years ago... can you believe it? And I feel really good. Took my 2 dogs out for about a 2 hour walk today....
 
You have done nothing wrong. You invited your mom to go with you to your bil's home and she declined. Now her plans have changed, so she is going to your brother' (her son) for the day.

It is between your brother and mother to figure out how she gets to his house. You are not responsible for providing the transportation. DO NOT be guilted into it.
 
How so? I invited her TWICE to join me and she turned me down.

Why not invite her again? It's Thanksgiving for goodness sake. Alter your plans. I just lost my mother. Alter your plans so she can have Thanksgiving with one of you. You don't want stuff like this in your memory bank. Trust me.

Notice I did NOT say you were wrong. You're not BUT you boys need to work this out. Each of you drive half way or something. Find another relative who can do some driving. Doesn't your mother drive at all? You are all smart people, get a plan, Stan. Spend less time talking about it with us and more time talking to your brother and mother to work it out. Can your mother take the bus, Gus? Pay a college student to drive her one way. There are solutions out there, you just have to put your brains in gear, Samir. lol! (trying to add some levity but seriously, work it out, she's your mother!)
 
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How did I do that? The only thing I did was ask my mom to join us for dinner.

I think that poster mis-read your original post. You didn't bring mom in, brother did. And for what's it's worth, NO, you are not wrong. You asked her twice to join YOU and she declined, twice. If she wants to be with brother and brother wants her with him, that's between them.

Hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving (and I''m so glad everyone else has drama too)!
 
PrincessMomma - Are you a mom? I hope you're not laying guilt like that on your kids!

I think some of the dissenters must not have understood the whole of the situation.

It was explained on another thread that there are actually a lot of children and teens who visit this board and chime in about stuff, than we previously thought. It would definitely explain the reading comprehension problems so many people had reading this thread. :confused3 One person had it explained by different people four times and still got it wrong, then started guilt tripping for something they don't understand. :sad2:


So this is not the first time your brother has tried this stunt. He sounds like a real charmer.
Some people have said that she is your mother so you should just do this for her. But she is also your brother's mother right so he should do this for her too. I hope this makes sense.
Good luck! and have a wonderful holiday.

no, you're right, i'd be aggravated too.

I kind of understand all of the "she's your mother" things, but honestly - all parties are adults capable of making their own decisions. I don't think it's right to suddenly expect someone else to change their plans just because you suddenly decided you wanted to do something, parental relationship or not. Respect goes both ways, ya know?

But really, if you don't want to drive your mom to your brother's house, just don't do it. It really is his responsibiity if he invited someone who he knows does not drive.

BINGO! These are it in a nutshell.

You invited your adult mom twice. She declined for whatever reasons. Period.

She, instead, had decided to spend Thanksgiving at your brothers. This entire situation now doesn't involve you. In fact, you said her back up plans fell through, so again, she wasn't involving you. Once she declined you, her situation no longer involved you.

She is a lucid adult. She must by now, be aware of her actions and decisions and know that decisions have parameters with a limited amount of options and carry consequences.

Your brother is an adult. HE, TOO has consequences and responsibilities for his actions and decisions. If HE invites your mom and she accepts, knowing she doesn't drive, it is HIS responsibility to see that she gets back and forth round trip. (Not your responsibility for an event that no longer involved you.

Maybe you can give your brother's email to all those who've been guilt tripping YOU. So they can guilt trip him into getting his behind off the couch, since HE is the one HOSTING your mom, not you. HE should make her feel welcome by being excited to drive over and pick her up. that's an extra 2 hr 40 minutes he gets to spend with her, :hug: than if you drove her.

Your mom and your brother are trying to use you. If either of them call you, you need to gently explain to them that you invited mom twice to be part of your family's plans. Since she and your brother made plans instead, great, but her travel arrangements really don't involve you. Your BROTHER and MOTHER need to work out plans themselves, which do not involve you.

For the continual guilt trippers: It's not like PD is putting his mom out homeless on the street. :sad2: You're just adding to the melodrama. :rolleyes: She made other plans and SHE and the other brother are responsible for carrying them out. There are also car services.

PD, Happy Thanksgiving! :cool1: Glad you will be getting away from all this drama. Don't cave or it will happen again next year.

And if you have great prime rib rub or au jus, :love: PLEASE PM it to me, pretty please. :teeth:
 
My mom lives by my sister an hour and a half away from me. If I invite her I go pick her up and bring her back home. I wouldn't ask my sister even if she was traveling in my direction and she only lives 10 minutes away from my Mom. She wouldn't ask me to go out of my way either.
Your mother and brother are being unreasonable, doesn't it upset you that family members can be so inconsiderate?
My nephew recently thought I would take a week off from work to watch his son(who I love dearly) because he was in a jam that his wife created for them. I said NO. Sometimes it's hard to do but it's amazing the the things people will ask you to do isn't it? I'm still getting the cold shoulder. I think that's their problem not mine.
I also can't stand it when my mother takes the side of my sister, as it seems yours is doing now with your brother. It creates problems and hurt feelings. Enjoy your Thanksgiving even though this happened.
 
Ok, first you've done nothing wrong, and your brother should transport your Mom.

Did you consider checking with your BIL to see if it was too late to bring your Mom due to a change in her plans. You haven't mentioned that you extended the invite for a 3rd time. Perhaps your Mom would actually prefer to do that, but felt that it was too late since she said no before.

Also could you possibly get up an hour earlier and drive your mom half way to meet your brother.. ?
 
It was explained on another thread that there are actually a lot of children and teens who visit this board and chime in about stuff, than we previously thought. It would definitely explain the reading comprehension problems so many people had reading this thread. :confused3 One person had it explained by different people four times and still got it wrong, then started guilt tripping for something they don't understand. :sad2:

If you're referring to me, I'm an adult with zero reading comprehension problems. :rolleyes: I didn't misread or misunderstand anything. I have a different opinion than many here but that does not make me wrong. Just giving my opinion and being called a child because of it. Nice. :)

I would handle things differently if I were in the OP's shoes, not out of guilt but out of love and respect.
 
^^ You told him he was wrong for bringing his mother into it! That can't just be an opinion based on fact.


PD.... She doesn't want to spend time with you, but you're expected to be the chauffer so she can be with your brother?

I'm amazed that anyone thinks you should do this :confused3 What about YOUR feelings?
 
I don't think you are wrong, you tried to include her in you plans, you shouldn't have to spend your whole day driving.
 
I feel really bad for your mom, OP. Put yourself in her position. Her 2 kids don't want to be bothered with her. I get that she changed her mind, you've made plans, etc. She hung the phone up on you. She must be very hurt.

How did he put HIMSELF into the situation?

His mother declined the plans that invited her to. She wants to go to his brothers. A place he is NOT going to.

HIS brother asked that he drive the mother to his house, even though he isn't going there on Thanksgiving.

The brother then called the mother and told her to ask the OP to drive her to her other son's house.

So the OP should drive all over the place and cook Thanksgiving?
 
How did he put HIMSELF into the situation?

His mother declined the plans that invited her to. She wants to go to his brothers. A place he is NOT going to.

HIS brother asked that he drive the mother to his house, even though he isn't going there on Thanksgiving.

The brother then called the mother and told her to ask the OP to drive her to her other son's house.


So the OP should drive all over the place and cook Thanksgiving?

Well, I don't know that for a fact, but based on the words my mom used when she asked me, it really seems quite likely since my brother used the exact same phrases that my mom used when she called me. I would call him to ask, but I know I would just get angry, and I don't need that hassle.
 
How did he put HIMSELF into the situation?

She didn't say that the OP had put himself into the situation. She was suggesting that the OP try to pretend that he was in his mom's position and try to see things from her point of view.

PD - is they any way you and your brother could get a car service/taxi for you mom? I don't think that you are wrong in this situation, but might this be an acceptable solution?
 
Could BILs wife pick mom up? That way he wouldn't have to do all the driving himself that day.

FWIW, I don't think you're wrong, I wouldn't do it either. You have enough on your plate that day.
 
She didn't say that the OP had put himself into the situation. She was suggesting that the OP try to pretend that he was in his mom's position and try to see things from her point of view.

PD - is they any way you and your brother could get a car service/taxi for you mom? I don't think that you are wrong in this situation, but might this be an acceptable solution?

That's a great idea.
 














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