Teresa Heinz Kerry

[Elwood Blues]

Originally posted by danacara
With the privilege of health, yes, he was. But one wonders how he would have felt if he had one moment of clarity at the end of that horrible fight with Alzheimer's. It's funny how potentially lifesaving technology looks more inviting from that perspective.

From what I've read and heard, stem cell research will provide little if any benefits to help find a cure for Alzheimer's.

 

[BedKnobbery2]

Originally posted by MICKEY88
I believe she was replying to my comment that she inherited the money , she did not run the business...

I never questioned how much she does, I said other people run the heinz family business...

Actually, you implied she was in no way a businesswoman; I was showing that she actually runs several different ventures, and is evidently a very savvy businesswoman. Neither of us (until you pointed it out after my post) said anything about the Heinz family business.

 

[bsnyder]

Originally posted by Elwood Blues
From what I've read and heard, stem cell research will provide little if any benefits to help find a cure for Alzheimer's.

That's my understanding, as well.

With the privilege of health, yes, he was. But one wonders how he would have felt if he had one moment of clarity at the end of that horrible fight with Alzheimer's. It's funny how potentially lifesaving technology looks more inviting from that perspective.

Of course we'll never know the answer to this question. But I prefer to think that he would continue to be guided by his principles rather than his self-interest.

 

[caitycaity]

But I prefer to think that he would continue to be guided by his principles

people's principles can change based on life experience. that's not a bad thing.

 

[bsnyder]

I guess I can see that argument, Caity, that it doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing.

But Dana's post argues that he might abandon those principles because his own self-interest (his health) was at stake, which, IMO, would be a negative.

I'm sure many people would, in those circumstances, choose self-interest over principles. I prefer to think that Ronald Reagan wouldn't.

 

[caitycaity]

Originally posted by bsnyder
I guess I can see that argument, Caity, that it doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing.

But Dana's post argues that he might abandon those principles because his own self-interest (his health) was at stake, which, IMO, would be a negative.

I'm sure many people would, in those circumstances, choose self-interest over principles. I prefer to think that Ronald Reagan wouldn't.

i get what you are saying, bet. fwiw, although i really did not agree with most of his policies, i do think president reagan was a very principled man.

 

[MICKEY88]

Originally posted by BedKnobbery2
Actually, you implied she was in no way a businesswoman; I was showing that she actually runs several different ventures, and is evidently a very savvy businesswoman. Neither of us (until you pointed it out after my post) said anything about the Heinz family business.

there's a big difference between running a business or ventures as you call them,,and simply giving money to charities...her ex husbands money...

 

[MICKEY88]

Originally posted by KarenC
Managing an endowment involves maintaining and growing the capital, not just spending the money.

not if the endowment is set up to be funded endlessly by the heinz corporation, in that situation the money is set aside on a yearly basis and the chairman simply helps decide what causes to fund,


and having seen this up close, millionaires who donate very freely are given the type of awards she received , simply because they supported the cause or made a few phone calls to wealthy friends...quite often all they do is allow their name to be used for a fundraising event, and they get some type of award for their efforts,,

if simply attending charitable functions to help raise money is anyones idea of hardwork, or being a brilliant businessman, then she certainly qualifies

 

[Serena]

Because of a moment of personal satisfaction, no one is talking about how good her speech was.
It was her night to shine, to be strong and opinionated, and be heard. She was in the spotlight, the nation was listening.

It seems that all anyone is hearing is her comment to "shove it".

She had a job to do, and she did it well. But she let her temper get the best of her and she ruined it.

 

[Mamu]

Views from a born democrat leaning towards republican views:

If we don't walk the walk, talk the talk, and think the same as the republican party, we are labeled un-American, by a republican lead press. This boarders on McCarthy-ism

I find Teresa Heinz Kerry refreshing.

Maybe I'd better start leaning towards a party that excepts me for who I am and not for how I think.

 

[auntpolly]

Originally posted by Serena


She had a job to do, and she did it well. But she let her temper get the best of her and she ruined it.

No, I don't think she ruined it. When something like this happens, the people who are all upset about are the people that were never going to like her in the first place.

This country is way too image concious.

 

[auntpolly]

Originally posted by bsnyder
I guess I can see that argument, Caity, that it doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing.

But Dana's post argues that he might abandon those principles because his own self-interest (his health) was at stake, which, IMO, would be a negative.

I'm sure many people would, in those circumstances, choose self-interest over principles. I prefer to think that Ronald Reagan wouldn't.

Well, Nancy has changed her mind on the subject; hasn't she? Do you fault her for that?

 

[BedKnobbery2]

Originally posted by MICKEY88
not if the endowment is set up to be funded endlessly by the heinz corporation, in that situation the money is set aside on a yearly basis and the chairman simply helps decide what causes to fund,


and having seen this up close, millionaires who donate very freely are given the type of awards she received , simply because they supported the cause or made a few phone calls to wealthy friends...quite often all they do is allow their name to be used for a fundraising event, and they get some type of award for their efforts,,

if simply attending charitable functions to help raise money is anyones idea of hardwork, or being a brilliant businessman, then she certainly qualifies

Oh, good heavens. Why don't you just admit you don't like her for one simple fact--she's John Kerry's wife. If you could honestly read the short bio I posted about her, and surmise that she's done nothing more than attend charitable functions, then I would have to surmise that you have a blind spot regarding her accomplishments.

 

[auntpolly]

Originally posted by doc428
My opinion exactly. Being from Pittsburgh, I have seen enough of Mrs. Heinz Kerry to last a lifetime. She is aloof and stand offish. I have been at a number of charity events where she was at, and she was very unavailable for any contact with anybody but her circle.
I also find Pres. Clinton very charming and likable.Would vote for him again in a heartbeat.

God forbid we shouldn't have a <i>charming</i> president!

C'mon guys! I'm sounding so mean but this is really getting to me. How are we ever going to get things right in this country if we continue to focus on the image of the candidates <i> and of their wives</i>!!

How many ugly, standoffish, or just plain quirky <i>geniuses</i> have we overlooked to lead us because of our obsession with image?????

 

[bsears]

Originally posted by BedKnobbery2
Oh, good heavens. Why don't you just admit you don't like her for one simple fact--she's John Kerry's wife. If you could honestly read the short bio I posted about her, and surmise that she's done nothing more than attend charitable functions, then I would have to surmise that you have a blind spot regarding her accomplishments.

Well said !

Well, Nancy has changed her mind on the subject; hasn't she? Do you fault her for that?

Take a look at the Republican message boards and see just how much they are faulting Nancy. Never in my worst nightmares could I imagine an eighty year old widow being called such vile hateful names in truly disgusting language. Obviously ANYONE who is not with them is against them, and subject to attack.

 

[auntpolly]

Originally posted by bsears
Well said !


Take a look at the Republican message boards and see just how much they are faulting Nancy. Never in my worst nightmares could I imagine an eighty year old widow being called such vile hateful names in truly disgusting language. Obviously ANYONE who is not with them is against them, and subject to attack.

Really??? I had no idea. I don't think I even want to look....

 

[William Jefferson Clinton]

I really like her ketchup.

 

[Grog]

Never in my worst nightmares could I imagine an eighty year old widow being called such vile hateful names in truly disgusting language

I'm not condoning what they might be saying, but the Democrat boards were just as evil when her husband died. Some even went so far as to say they were glad he suffered for ten years before he died. There are idiots like that on both sides of the aisle.

 

[bsears]

Originally posted by auntpolly
Really??? I had no idea. I don't think I even want to look....

Trust me you don't. I literally had to go take a shower after. I had only gone there because the thread here on stem cell research was getting all one sided answers and I wanted to see what the opposition was saying.

I'm not condoning what they might be saying, but the Democrat boards were just as evil when her husband died. Some even went so far as to say they were glad he suffered for ten years before he died. There are idiots like that on both sides of the aisle.

I don't doubt that for a second. It just surprised me that's all. I guess I had bought into the constant subliminal messages that the right is the religious right and therefore above such things. And this was not a couple of posters it was a free for all...I felt like i had witnessed a ...well, you all know whhat I want to say, but cannot.

 

[minniepumpernickel]

Originally posted by Grog
I'm not condoning what they might be saying, but the Democrat boards were just as evil when her husband died. Some even went so far as to say they were glad he suffered for ten years before he died. There are idiots like that on both sides of the aisle.

I'm not good at dealing with idiots at all. What is your strategy? Just to avoid the questions? Or the whole board?