Swine Flu - General Discussion and how it affects Disney

[Toad_Passenger]

For what its worth, I still had the page up before they took it down so here is a copy and paste of this dummy ~ I swear these leaders do NOT have a clue

Thanks for posting the cut and paste. Sounds like the same stuff we already knew. I thought, though, that the SC band students have the regular flu, though, or isn't that confirmed yet?

 

[RMulieri]

check out the hot new siggy I got myself

Rock on!

 

[irunnoft]

We are still waiting for photos before we can site you as a source

Ask and ye shall receive....

This one was the prototype made of flank steaks, but I switched it over to nice thick cut bone-in pork chops later.

 

[praline3001]

Thanks for posting the cut and paste. Sounds like the same stuff we already knew. I thought, though, that the SC band students have the regular flu, though, or isn't that confirmed yet?

I think that is still up in the air. There are 10 confirmed cases in SC via CDC testing BUT they didn't say if they were the band members or not.

From what the leaders are saying (and again read with a grain of salt here) they have no confirmed cases in Florida
SO who knows
I am *thinking* the SC case is related in someway but the CDC hasn't confirmed anything and I am not listening to any more local leaders

 

[RMulieri]

I love the backpeddaling the white house is doing about Biden .. "what he meant was..." No what he meant is what he said, how many meanings does what he said have? i swear the gov't thinks we are gullible morons

 

[praline3001]

Ask and ye shall receive....

This one was the prototype made of flank steaks, but I switched it over to nice thick cut bone-in pork chops later.

OMG

Now that I have seen it on the internet I know its a good source

 

[Lucky4me]

My newest theory is this-
We may be able to contain or temper a killer influenza in 2009. The experts worry because of mass international transit and the speed of which a new, mixed strain virus can spread.
This is true, but in 1918 they did not have the hygiene practices we have now. Bathing was a weekly occurrance, not daily. They also did not have instant access to education-television, internet, etc. In 1918, people lived in very close quarters, mostly in urban areas. Or in close quarters on farms. While we may be exposed while flying on a plane or riding a subway, the exposure is short term. We're not sleeping 5 to a room or 4 to a bed. There were no flu vaccinations in 1918. While the annual flu vax may not offer full protection from a recombined strain, it may offer some protection and may make it less virulent. We did not have anti viral medicines in 1918.
So perhaps suburban sprawl, two per Mcmansion and internet hermits may save the world.
Or not. I could be wrong and we could all be pig zombies this time next week.

 

[praline3001]

I love the backpeddaling the white house is doing about Biden .. "what he meant was..." No what he meant is what he said, how many meanings does what he said have? i swear the gov't thinks we are gullible morons

No kidding! What he said was ~ I told my family your nuts if you get on a plane right now

But what he MEANT was~ if your not feeling well maybe you should wear a mask before getting on a plane

 

[Toad_Passenger]

I love the backpeddaling the white house is doing about Biden .. "what he meant was..." No what he meant is what he said, how many meanings does what he said have? i swear the gov't thinks we are gullible morons

We spoke about this a little yesterday. Mr. Biden is widely known for his verbal diarrhea. His mouth moves a lot faster than his mind.

 

[staceymay00]

Try this, it's on the front page http://www.orlandosentinel.com/

The Orlando media seems as bad as the Atlanta media in that they can't wait to have some kind of local connection to a story. It's like they are hoping WDW and Orlando become a hotspot for swine flu. Even if the SC band does have swine flu it does not mean they got it at WDW. They really seem desperate to report on swine flu cases in central FL.

 

[praline3001]

My newest theory is this-
We may be able to contain or temper a killer influenza in 2009. The experts worry because of mass international transit and the speed of which a new, mixed strain virus can spread.
This is true, but in 1918 they did not have the hygiene practices we have now. Bathing was a weekly occurrance, not daily. They also did not have instant access to education-television, internet, etc. In 1918, people lived in very close quarters, mostly in urban areas. Or in close quarters on farms. While we may be exposed while flying on a plane or riding a subway, the exposure is short term. We're not sleeping 5 to a room or 4 to a bed. There were no flu vaccinations in 1918. While the annual flu vax may not offer full protection from a recombined strain, it may offer some protection and may make it less virulent. We did not have anti viral medicines in 1918.
So perhaps suburban sprawl, two per Mcmansion and internet hermits may save the world.
Or not. I could be wrong and we could all be pig zombies this time next week.

Yup and they all lived in caves and drew pretty pictures on the walls of those caves

I saw an expert last night explain this is a very different strain... its missing the protein DNA strand that the 1918 flu had. This flu is really bad at replicating itself RIGHT NOW... but things can change quickly with mutations.

 

[staceymay00]

I think that is still up in the air. There are 10 confirmed cases in SC via CDC testing BUT they didn't say if they were the band members or not.

From what the leaders are saying (and again read with a grain of salt here) they have no confirmed cases in Florida
SO who knows
I am *thinking* the SC case is related in someway but the CDC hasn't confirmed anything and I am not listening to any more local leaders

I believe that the confirmed SC cases are kids who were on a trip to Mexico during spring break. The WDW band kids are separate and not yet confirmed.

 

[katytrott]

I just want to clarify something from an earlier post about testing. All local labs can test for type A flu, but just because it is type A doesnt mean its swine flu. Local labs cannot test for swine flu specifically. This is why it is taking so long to confirm reports. Once the test is positive for Type A, the healthcare provider decides if the individual meets the criteria for sending it to one of 2 labs in the United States that can test for Swine Flu. They are not sending all positives because of the large number but there is a list of questions for the patient and if they answer yes to any of these, the test is sent out. It may take a week after the initial postitive to determine if it is swine flu. The reason many are considering all postitives as swine flu is that we are so late in the flu season it is unlikely to see "regular" flu. The CDC and WHO is only reporting postitive swine flu tests.

Ok, I just wanted a few things clarified. I did ask these following questions earlier but it was round the time of the thread mergers, so I think it got lost.

We are flying over to WDW from the UK in 12 days time with 11 of my family including my BIL who has Spinal Muscular Atrophy and my son who is only 16 weeks old (and my older son who is 4 and is very good at touching everything and then sucking his thumb!)

Could someone explain to me the procedure in place if you turn up at a health care provider with flu symptoms. The above quote is the closest I found going through here but it doesn't explain at what point you get the Tamiflu.

That is the crucial thing actually, do you have to wait till you get a confirmation from test results before you get the Tamiflu? If anyone of us gets any symptoms we want to make absolutely sure that we get the symptoms as minimal as possible to aid in the spread to my BIL and my baby.

Currently here in the UK, whoever has been in contact with a confirmed case has been given Tamiflu automatically regardless of any symptoms or not, including a whole school year. Would this happen in WDW?

If one of us went down with flu symptoms, would all of us get Tamiflu? It does have a prentative role you see.

One other thing, we are staying off site in our own villa. We don't have any knowledge of the US health system, so if need be, where do we go? Who do we ring? Will we have any difficulty not being a US national. I know someone did say they are used to internationals, but I was worried that would be in Disney and we are not staying in Disney.

Please no one flame me, yes, I admit it I am terrified by all of this. I wouldn't be if I wasn't flying for 9 hours and taking my 16 week old baby to a "cess pool of germs" as someone previously mentioned, in a nation that has a health service totaly alien to me.

One other thing, I am no more worried about the swine flu then I am normal flu. However, I am worrying about my baby catching it regardless of the type of flu it is. Yes, normal seasonal flu kills thousands every year, but we all know a baby my age would be in that statistic

 

[Toad_Passenger]

The Orlando media seems as bad as the Atlanta media in that they can't wait to have some kind of local connection to a story. It's like they are hoping WDW and Orlando become a hotspot for swine flu. Even if the SC band does have swine flu it does not mean they got it at WDW. They really seem desperate to report on swine flu cases in central FL.

It is not a secret that a lot of citizens in the Orlando area and the Orlando media love a good "Dirty Disney" story. They really CAN'T wait to put down the big Mouse. I always thought it was funny because honestly what would Orlando be if it wasn't for the theme parks? Sounds like they like to bite the hand that feeds them.

 

[SpectroMax]

My newest theory is this-
We may be able to contain or temper a killer influenza in 2009. The experts worry because of mass international transit and the speed of which a new, mixed strain virus can spread.
This is true, but in 1918 they did not have the hygiene practices we have now. Bathing was a weekly occurrance, not daily. They also did not have instant access to education-television, internet, etc. In 1918, people lived in very close quarters, mostly in urban areas. Or in close quarters on farms. While we may be exposed while flying on a plane or riding a subway, the exposure is short term. We're not sleeping 5 to a room or 4 to a bed. There were no flu vaccinations in 1918. While the annual flu vax may not offer full protection from a recombined strain, it may offer some protection and may make it less virulent. We did not have anti viral medicines in 1918.
So perhaps suburban sprawl, two per Mcmansion and internet hermits may save the world.
Or not. I could be wrong and we could all be pig zombies this time next week.

Nothing wrong with that theory. In fact, I like it. However the other side of the coin is, in 1918 we didn't have flu vaccines to drive the mutation of different strains of the virus. Also, an outbreak would be more likely to be contained in a quarantined area. We didn't pile into subways like sardines everday, come in contact with hundreds if not thousands of people on a daily basis, or hop onto planes and transports our local germs all over the face of the globe. So there are benefits and drawbacks when comparing the two situations.

 

[praline3001]

It is not a secret that a lot of citizens in the Orlando area and the Orlando media love a good "Dirty Disney" story. They really CAN'T wait to put down the big Mouse. I always thought it was funny because honestly what would Orlando be if it wasn't for the theme parks? Sounds like they like to bite the hand that feeds them.

Again another great post! If I had a company like Disney here so I didn't have to pay property tax EVER ~ errrr that rat would be tattooed on my chest

 

[praline3001]

You notice we don't hear about 6 flags shutting down in the effected areas do we?
And they have confirmed cases!

 

[Lucky4me]

Yup and they all lived in caves and drew pretty pictures on the walls of those caves

I saw an expert last night explain this is a very different strain... its missing the protein DNA strand that the 1918 flu had. This flu is really bad at replicating itself RIGHT NOW... but things can change quickly with mutations.

Sure they can. Or they won't.
I just think overall, we are much better equipped to deal with this than 90 years ago. There are some nutter scientists out there predicting the end of human civilization once the big one hits. Sure it could, but it probably won't. And if it does, we'll all be dead and we won't care. Life is like a box of chocolates, Forrest. :lol

 

[irunnoft]

OMG

Now that I have seen it on the internet I know its a good source

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[irunnoft]

I believe that the confirmed SC cases are kids who were on a trip to Mexico during spring break. The WDW band kids are separate and not yet confirmed.

Yes, you are correct. I live in Western North Carolina and Spartanburg, SC is one of my "locals" on DirecTV. I watched that story last night and all those kids in SC were on a spring break trip to Mexico.