Survivor 20**HvV**No SPOILER THREAD**

[PixieDust32]

thank you! I thought so because of the flag.

 

[Kirby]

Who was Rupert looking at all mean? All of them or Sandra? It was his "friend" Russ who betrayed him again.

I'm not so sure that he knew that Russell wrote his name down. Jeff didn't show all the votes.

 

[PixieDust32]

Yes, a small town called Whineyville.

 

[PixieDust32]

I'm not so sure that he knew that Russell wrote his name down. Jeff didn't show all the votes.

He was talking about the idol, so im not so sure if he knew.

 

[daughtersrus]

All this being said, even though I think Russ has played the best strategic game (2 seasons in a row now), I think Parv would win over Russ. She has way too many friends and hasn't back stabbed the way Russ has. Not sure how Sandra plays into the final decision just yet. Parv has a ton of friends so Sandra will have to be amazing at TC to beat her.

I disagree. Russell has never even come close to playing a good social game. If he thinks that bullying and threatening are a good strategy, maybe he'll change the way he plays if he ever gets a third chance.

He really doesn't seem to play a good physical game either as far as challenges and work around camp go.

 

[gometros]

Not so. She was in the final 3 and Todd won that season (China) and in FvF she was in the final 2 with Parvati and Parvati one. This is the only season she has been voted out.

That's exactly what wishblue said.

For all of you Russell worshippers; go back and re-read Jeff's blog. Russell will be the first back-to-back loser because he has NO SOCIAL GAME. When part of your strategy is bullying the people you play with, you're forgetting a key aspect of Survivor. If Russell comes back for a third Survivor down the road, I suggest he take as his personal item, a copy of Dale Carnegie's How To Win friend's And Influence People

On the other hand, Sandra has combined two of three key elements of the game. True, she is not the greatest at challenges (although she,with Rob, were killing it at the puzzle challenges), she has mastered the social and strategic game. If you don't think she plays a good strategic game, you just don't get Survivor. There is a difference between flying under the radar and riding coattails. She has managed to get this far without alienating anybody and if she goes to the final two, she wins. Hands down.

 

[Toad_Passenger]

I'm not even sure that Russell is some master strategist, either. He just knows how to read people, which helps in this game, but, by no means, is he the only one to ever do this.

In his first season he had his "dumb girl" alliance. He seeks out people who are easily manipulated (hardly the trademark of a Survivor expert). This season he knew Tyson was as dumb as a rock, and he, again, manipulated him to that end. Some may see his "reading" of the dumb people as a sign of great strategy, but, honestly, anyone can get dumb people to do dumb things. A GREAT player will get the smart players to do dumb things, and, as we've seen, Russell has been unable to do that with Parvati (a smart player).

 

[4greatboys]

Guess I need more sleep, lol. I read that as the the first time (her first time) she was voted out.

 

[PixieDust32]

That's exactly what wishblue said.

For all of you Russell worshippers; go back and re-read Jeff's blog. Russell will be the first back-to-back loser because he has NO SOCIAL GAME. When part of your strategy is bullying the people you play with, you're forgetting a key aspect of Survivor. If Russell comes back for a third Survivor down the road, I suggest he take as his personal item, a copy of Dale Carnegie's How To Win friend's And Influence People

On the other hand, Sandra has combined two of three key elements of the game. True, she is not the greatest at challenges (although she,with Rob, were killing it at the puzzle challenges), she has mastered the social and strategic game. If you don't think she plays a good strategic game, you just don't get Survivor. There is a difference between flying under the radar and riding coattails. She has managed to get this far without alienating anybody and if she goes to the final two, she wins. Hands down.

Perfect! I see the same things in Sandra! That is harder to do that just being the evil mastermind because it makes everybody angry at you.

 

[PixieDust32]

I'm not even sure that Russell is some master strategist, either. He just knows how to read people, which helps in this game, but, by no means, is he the only one to ever do this.

In his first season he had his "dumb girl" alliance. He seeks out people who are easily manipulated (hardly the trademark of a Survivor expert). This season he knew Tyson was as dumb as a rock, and he, again, manipulated him to that end. Some may see his "reading" of the dumb people as a sign of great strategy, but, honestly, anyone can get dumb people to do dumb things. A GREAT player will get the smart players to do dumb things, and, as we've seen, Russell has been unable to do that with Parvati (a smart player).

And that really makes him angry elf he tried and didn't work so he "choose" to keep her!

 

[PixieDust32]

Guess I need more sleep, lol. I read that as the the first time (her first time) she was voted out.

Who?

 

[PixieDust32]

If Russ doesn't win he can go to "The biggest Loser" survivor edition maybe with Amanda. He said the we can do survivor over and over and over as long as he has food because he is so darn good at it.

 

[declansdad]

That's exactly what wishblue said.

For all of you Russell worshippers; go back and re-read Jeff's blog. Russell will be the first back-to-back loser because he has NO SOCIAL GAME. When part of your strategy is bullying the people you play with, you're forgetting a key aspect of Survivor. If Russell comes back for a third Survivor down the road, I suggest he take as his personal item, a copy of Dale Carnegie's How To Win friend's And Influence People

On the other hand, Sandra has combined two of three key elements of the game. True, she is not the greatest at challenges (although she,with Rob, were killing it at the puzzle challenges), she has mastered the social and strategic game. If you don't think she plays a good strategic game, you just don't get Survivor. There is a difference between flying under the radar and riding coattails. She has managed to get this far without alienating anybody and if she goes to the final two, she wins. Hands down.

Jeff has also said many times Russell is one of the best players to never win the game.

 

[PixieDust32]

Jeff has also said many times Russell is one of the best players to never win the game.

Yes, very entertaining too. You know, it seems that he was a very cool relationship with his wife Have you seen his kids videos on you tube?

 

[Kirby]

Just watched Ponderosa. Rupert said that all those left want to take Russell to the end. I wonder why?

 

[4greatboys]

Who?

Amanda

 

[PixieDust32]

Amanda

Oh ok.

 

[PixieDust32]

Just watched Ponderosa. Rupert said that all those left want to take Russell to the end. I wonder why?

Ohh mmmm i wonder why too .... Ohh I know because he is so darn good at this game!

 

[declansdad]

Yes, very entertaining too. You know, it seems that he was a very cool relationship with his wife Have you seen his kids videos on you tube?

He certainly is entertaining. I have heard they have a good relationship but I haven't seen the videos.

As far as his two seasons go, I think he had a much stronger case for winning last year than he did this year.

 

[declansdad]

Just watched Ponderosa. Rupert said that all those left want to take Russell to the end. I wonder why?

and Coach is still pissed he was a villain and not a hero.

His video from his cousin was rather unemotional compared to the others they showed.