stroller as battering ram - We couldn't believe it!

Disneyonmymind said:
IMHO, People who stand around to read a map are not even close to being in the same league with the man & woman purposefully using the stroller as a battering ram. Although it may be rude, they are not purposefully being mean and nasty. They probably don't even realize it. :confused3

Jackie :flower:
ITA. And why are people so petty about these things anyway. Come on is it that hard for you (general you) to walk around them anyway. Your on vacation people enjoy it and quit whining.
 
I've been strolling around Disney (with both single & double strollers) for 11 years now, and I think that one time I bumped someone's heel (and both my husband & I apologized profusely). I have accidentally nailed my husband a couple of times though.

We are always very mindful of those around us, and trying not to accidentally offend anyone. But when it's just he & I strolling along, we're constantly tripping over each other, trying to keep an eye on the non-stroller kids. We've never seriously hurt, or even bruised, the other by stroller bumping.

I hope that these incidents are not actually mothers & fathers assaulting innocent strangers for sport. While I have never seen anyone assault someone with their stoller in Disney, if this in in fact intentional, the ones I feel badly for are the kids in the strollers that are being used as human weapons. That's some major future therapy bills.
 
blueiis99 said:
I can completely relate to people being sepeated, and needing to "catch up". I would me most willing to assist anyone in a situation like that....all they have to do is say" excuse me My family has slipped away do you mind if i cantch up with them" I would willingly do anything to assist.

But the out right rude behavior of ramming someone is uncalled for.

Maybe the rest of the family should keep their eyes out for the stroller part of the group and wait for them.

It's so funny to see all the people rushing to the boats and buses at the end of the day, only to have to wait for the next bus or next boat.
 
vascubaguy said:
you know what's worse, I noticed that some people that rent the wheelchairs don't appear to really need them... I think they rent them to get ahead in some of the lines... AND to haul stuff around in them!
Renting a wheelchair will not get you ahead of anyone now days. The bulk of the lines are mainstream and if they aren't and you don't have a fastpass they will give you a slip with time to return approximately equal to the wait time. Rarely do wheelchair users get faster access although it may appear this way at times.
 

Talking Hands said:
Renting a wheelchair will not get you ahead of anyone now days. The bulk of the lines are mainstream and if they aren't and you don't have a fastpass they will give you a slip with time to return approximately equal to the wait time. Rarely do wheelchair users get faster access although it may appear this way at times.
I have a few family members who are in wheelchairs. They usually go down to MGM during the super soap weekend. You couldn't pay me to be there then, but from what they tell me, there is a bunch of people who rent the wheelchairs to get a good view of the stars. They're not at MGM to ride TOT anyway.
 
This doesn't directly have to do with strollers but it DOES have to do with RUDE people.

We were at MGM and waiting in line for our bus back to the contemporary. We had been waiting a LONG time and there were people ahead of us so when the bus came there WAS room but for standing only. We had a 1 and 2 1/2 year old who were BOTH asleep in our large double stroller. We could NOT hold them AND the stroller standing up all the way back so we let several people by us so we could be first on the NEXT bus.

Now mind you we let probably 20 people pass us so we COULD be first to get a seat and opted to wait a REALLY long time for the next bus. When it got there this JERK (and that is a NICE word for him) practically knocked us over to get on the bus. Now mind you we were first in line and as soon as we saw the bus coming we started getting the girls out and collapsing the stroller. This was NOT soon enough for this jerk and he literally ran us over to get on the bus. He was RIGHt behind us so no matter WHAT he WOULD have gotten a seat. So we get on and the bus fills. The moron sat in the seats right behind the driver that clearly have a sign saying to reserve these seats for elderly and handicapped.

This guy was in his 30's and had a wife and older child like 10. They were ALL quite capable of standing if they had too.

Well this older lady gets on and the bus driver says, sir please let the lady sit in your seat. He just glared at the bus driver and loudly said NO.

I could NOT believe the cojones on this guy and my 10 year old stepdaughter said How rude Must be a new yorker LOL. No offense to any NY's on here but being from CA you hear sterotypes and I am the first to admit we hear them about us Californians too. Believe me I am NOT a surfer or a blonde babe! LOL.

Anyway I just could not believe how rude this jerk was and it was NOT like if he had waited 2 more seconds for us to get on he was going to lose a seat and he SHOULD have sat elsewhere if he didn't want to have to get up.

Oh and on a side note, my husband was in Iraq for the past 1 and 1/2 years. While he was gone my mom and I took my girls to disneyland. Now I don't expect nor need favors or help but I also don't expect people to run me over either.

AGain we had our large double stroller and there is a perfect spot that you can place it in the front of the ART bus but if you don't get that spot you have to stand up in the back and hold it. Do you think any perfectly healthy young capable people would let me sit there with my stroller? NO. 90 percent of the time these morons took that spot when there were SEVERAL other seats and they did NOT need that extra space. But the worst was one night after fantasmic it was late and we had gotten to the bus stop. There is no roped off line and so we were sitting on this bench waiting for the bus.

We were the FIRST ones there and I had even gotten my VERY tired girls out of their stroller (which they were NOT happy about) and folded it up so that when the bus DID come I could get on quickly.

In the meantime all these people walked up AFTER us and they were all VERY capable of standing or what have you. All young and no little ones. MOstly adults and older kids.

When the bus got there I jumped up but all these people shoved in front of me so that even though we had been there LONG before they made sure we had NO room to get on.

Now COME ONE. If you see a mom a grandma and 2 little kids asleep would you let them get on the bus? I know I sure would. But NO. And it was NOT even like I was expecting a favor and wanted someone who was there BEFORE me to give up their seat. I was there FIRST and they took advantage of the fact that I was trying to carry a very large heavy stroller AND 2 sleeping kids. I was SO po'd I just said forget it (not in those words LOL) and went and got a cab. EVENTHOUGH I had paid for my bus ticket (yes you have to PAY for the bus in LA).

I could NOT believe how rude and I can tell you if I was without my kids I would definitely give someone WITH little ones my seat.

Oh and one last thing when we were trying to eat dinner at one of the main street restaurants I noticed there are NO bathrooms in ANY of those restaurants. Everyone of them you have to go outside to find it. I commented to mom that what if I had been there alone with my kids. I would have had to get up and leave my VERY expensive meal to take my kids to the bathroom cuz I would NOT leave one of them there alone while I took the other to the bathroom and my kids are young and one was still potty training. I was MORE than po'd between that and the fact that that particular restaurant was crowded to the gills and completely unorganized. I said a few off color things to my mom NOT in a loud voice and this jerk who was standing next to me starts giving me crap. I was like "quit eavesdropping and mind your own bees wax". That just made me madder and all I could think about was MY husband was over fighting in Iraq and this jerk was here having a good time and more worried about my PRIVATE comments to my mom then minding his own business.

Ok I am off my soapbox LOL. Just had to share all my rude people experiences! :)
 
mill4023 said:
Agreed.
All I meant was that if someone stops in front of you, you can't just ram through them and blame them for stopping. On the other hand, you also can't be expected to stop instantly if someone darts in front of you or if it's so crowded that you have to be close to the person in front of you.


I'm so glad we agree. I was really trying hard not to hit people but everytime I left a lot of space in front of us behind other people- people would dart across. Then if I followed closer I had to be REALLY careful to stop if they did... which was difficult because I was alone with 3 kids and only one or two at a time were in the stroller... and my oldest is ADHD/ODD and I had to keep an eye on her too. I couldn't every single second watch those in front of me if they suddenly stopped- but I sure tried! LOL Those strollers are hard to handle... I'll be so glad when we don't have to use them anymore. I really hoped we'd be done with them by this last trip but my youngest (turned 5 during the trip) was NOT handling walking much at all and after the first day I realized it was either get a stroller... or not go to the parks. It wasn't worth it to have her crying and whining her legs hurt all day and she's much too heavy for me to carry her (especially with back injuries I have had). *sigh* Maybe next year we'll be done with the stupid things...I hate them. It was so much easier when she was smaller and we actually had a stroller of our OWN and took it- smaller and easier to manuever! LOL
 
You are a mouse, scurrying towards the hole in the wall which is your home. One of your young'uns is in your mouth held gently between your teeth. The hole is some distance away when a cat gets in your way heading straight for you.

What do you do? Hope Mighty Mouse comes to the rescue?

"Here I come to save the day!"
 
Years ago I worked in a group home for adults with MR. One of my clients talked non stop about wanting to go to Disney. Years later I would become the Director and be able to plan/budget/approve such trips. During a conference in Orlando, we took a couple of folks, including this client. How exciting to help this dream come true! I was all warm fuzzies.

She used a wheelchair to get around the World. I was pushing and realizing I wasn't the young kid who worked in the group home anymore! :crazy: We stopped to watch some street performers in Epcot. One woman stepped OVER my client's footrest DIRECTLY in front of her. She just stood there completely blocking her view. I said excuse me twice and she turned around once and shrugged her shoulders when I said she was blocking her view. I couldn't believe it. I was furious!

After all that time I had carefully pushed the wheelchair trying to avoid people who darted in front of us, stopped to read a map, I couldn't believe what I did! I clipped her with the footrest! I couldn't believe how aggressive I was at that moment!

Hell hath no fury like an exhausted woman pushing a wheelchair!
 
I have to say I only used a stroller once in DW. Had no problems. I think some people forget that they have this 3 to 4 ft. extension in front of them. Anyway, I think they're way over used. Went many years ago with DD 7 and Twins 5, and did not use a stroller. They walked, never complained and had a good time. Exercise is good for kids. I don't like seeing older children in them, or the strollers empty with kids pushing them. If Disney would limit the age at which they can be rented it would cut down on the amount of them in the park. Of course you can still bring your own, but for a 9 year old it would have to be a pretty big one. JMO.
 
The anger when people talk about strollers always amazes me. I agree that there are jerks with strollers out there. Most people with strollers aren't. There are also jerks that jump in front of people who are responsible with strollers and then get upset when they get hit. The last thing that I, and most people I know who use strollers would do, is use a stroller as a battering ram first, its not polite, and second, the most valuable thing I own is inside it. I have had my feet stepped on at WDW more than I've had strollers bang into the back of my legs. If someone bangs into me in a crowd and they're sorry, it's no big deal. If they are acting like the guy in the OP there is going to be a problem.
 
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Here we go again :flower:
 
lllovell said:
If you have a disabilities card, you get front of the line access to some rides, but being in a wheelchair alone does not guarantee you this right.
I just wanted to mention that the "disabilities card" is called a Guest Assistance Card. It is given to accomidate specific needs, not just because someone has a disability. The "front of the line" access is only given to children on WISH trips and sometimes to people who have equipment that operates on batteries (like ventilators to breathe for them) that severly limit the amount of time they can be away from a power outlet.

Most lines are wheelchair accessible (called Mainstream Access). Some of the attractions that don't have Mainstream Access have a specific entrance that wheelchair/ecv users are directed to, but that doesn't mean they get to ride right away - examples are Spaceship Earth and Jungle Cruise - where you do get taken into the ride area right away, but will usually wait there even longer than if you came thru the regular line.
 
mill4023 said:
Agreed.
All I meant was that if someone stops in front of you, you can't just ram through them and blame them for stopping. On the other hand, you also can't be expected to stop instantly if someone darts in front of you or if it's so crowded that you have to be close to the person in front of you.


well, that is where we can disagree because I can blame them for stopping in front of me just as I can blame myself for being "too close" which I really don't think it is at all possible to maintain any type of safe distance from people when parks are crowded. (be it with our without a stroller)

BTW - I always apologize to those I have "hit" with a stroller or purse or anything....but to those that see me coming with a stroller and cut me off or something of that nature and get hit or hit one of my kids then I don't apologize for that -they took the risk and it is their own fault.
 

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