Stay at Home Mom vs. Daycare?

Lisa loves Pooh said:
If you find the right daycare--it can be absolutely wonderful.

My SIL has her son in daycare and he just thrives.

The RIGHT daycare provider is the key. My son had 3 daycare providers in a little over a year. The second one was great, but I switched because I was going from full time to part time and she couldn't do part time then. In hindsight, I should have just paid for full time. Because of a bad experience with the last daycare provider, I stayed at home for 4 years. Oldest son just started kindergarten. I feel like some of his current problems could have been avoided or lessened if he'd remained with great daycare provider until he started preschool. I also was one of those unhappy (maybe even depressed) SAHM. I'm back at work full time now and much happier. I also have some great QUALITY time with my kids.

For an infant, I'd go with an inhome daycare. Look around a lot and go with your gut!
 
My belief is no daycare that young. I did it both ways and I just think babies should be with Mom/Dad. The bonding is too important and frankly, I wouldn't trust a daycare with my baby. When there is no choice there is no choice, but if there is... I wouldn't give up that time with my baby!
 
I work at a child care center and it is a hard choice... so hard.

Our center is licensed for 25 infants -- 25 - yep and if our ratio stays at 1 careigver for every 5 babies that is perfect in the eyes of the state.

But I have gone into that room when it is nearing lunch time and the babies are hungry and tired and the staff is trying their best to get to everyone and there are still little ones crying because their needs aren't being met fast enough --- not that my staff is neglectful ... they just don't have enough arms, laps, shoulders etc...

But that being said - my girls spent 4 hours a day in that room when they were babies while I worked in the office and they loved their caregivers and their caregivers loved them. And they are 6 and 7 and seem to be just fine. bright, friendly, (one is a little shy - the other very outgoing), healthy, and happy children.

Like others said - finding the right center for your child is very important but also knowing if it isn't working is important... if you are uncomfortable and unhappy bringing your child in - it won't work .... and if you are unhappy being "trapped" at home alone with your baby - that won't work either

You will figure it out -- congratulations - you are doing a great job so far!!
 
I commend you for addressing this before you have a child, but as others have warned, a real baby is very different that a hypothetical one. This is how it worked out for my family...

There are so many parenting issues that you can only really get a grasp on when they become personal and immediate. For example, I never expected it would take three years and a medical team to finally get pregnant the first time. I had always planned to be a working parent and I thought I would go back to work on a reduced schedule. I found an excellent childcare center and returned to work when my daughter was seven weeks old. The flexibility I was assured I would have at my job vanished the minute I walked back in the door and my child quickly became one of those 11 hours/day babies. My heart broke every day. Because I was only three months away from becoming fully vested in my 401K, I stuck it out. As soon as I could, I resigned. I continued to work free-lance from home when I could. Had I been the bigger breadwinner, my husband would have happily been the at-home parent but although we had similar careers he made more money. He also travels extensively and most of the day to day parenting would fall on me whether I was working or not, so being home is less complicated.

It is now six years later and because our second child is still young and has special needs, I am still at home and still free-lancing. There are days I get very bummed out (especially about housework, which I really don't enjoy doing), but most of the time I am content and feel I have made the right choice. The one piece of advice I remember getting over and over when I first became a parent was to relish every single moment, because those moments fly by. It is very true and I can say that I am grateful I haven't missed precious time with my girls. I know that when I do go back to work I will have some catching up to do but I can live with that.

You know yourself best. If you don't think you will be satisfied staying home then you should keep looking for other options. Best of luck to you.
 

miss missy said:
My belief is no daycare that young. I did it both ways and I just think babies should be with Mom/Dad. The bonding is too important and frankly, I wouldn't trust a daycare with my baby. When there is no choice there is no choice, but if there is... I wouldn't give up that time with my baby!

Just an FYI, but parent/infant bonding doesn't stop because a baby is in daycare.
 
BuckNaked said:
I know plenty of people that regret being SAHMs, just as I know plenty of people that regret putting their kids in daycare.
My mom regretted staying home with us -- she told me so many times, and she encouraged me to keep my job when I had my first daughter, even emphasizing that she'd help me when they were sick, etc.

She regretted it because my dad's "heavy social drinking" turned to full-scale alcoholism, and after the divorce she found herself with a houseful of kids, outdated work skills, and no income. She says emphatically that the fun she had with us when we were small was in no way worth the torment she and we went through in our middle school/teen years.

Of course, not everyone has such a horrible twist of events, but neither is it an uncommon story.
 
Lisa loves Pooh said:
I wouldn't omit it entirely--many stay at home/working moms opt to nurse. Some who go back to work opt to supplement with formula...

Formula isn't necessarily a budget item for both situations.
Yep, my daughters had formula only a couple times. In fact, I didn't even use all the free samples that I was given. I nursed them both well past a year, while working full time.

Easy? No. Worthwhile? Yes.

As the one-year mark approached, it became harder to sustain my milk supply. When I'd get too busy, fail to drink enough liquids, I'd notice a decrease . . . so I'd force myself to take it easy, drink plenty of water and milk, and in a day I'd be back to "full".

Neither of my girls was sick -- not even a sniffle -- while she was being nursed. They both developed ear infection problems later, but not while they were nursing.

As for diapers, I used to have a great source for second-quality disposables that were delivered right to my house. It was like half the cost of Walmart-brand diapers. I gave cloth a try, but it just wasn't worth the effort -- and the initial investment was steep; even if I'd been at home, I wouldn't have used cloth.

So the point: Calculate what costs you think you'll realistically incur, not what other people tell you to expect.
 
MrsPete said:
Of course, not everyone has such a horrible twist of events, but neither is it an uncommon story.

I agree, and we don't ever know how things are going to turn out.

I'm a firm believer in each mom doing what is best for her particular situation, and part of that is taking in information from both sides of the debate. But I don't like the notion of trying to "guilt" a mom into one side or the other.
 
BuckNaked said:
I agree, and we don't ever know how things are going to turn out.

I'm a firm believer in each mom doing what is best for her particular situation, and part of that is taking in information from both sides of the debate. But I don't like the notion of trying to "guilt" a mom into one side or the other.
I totally agree, I also think it's best to be open to change whenever circumstances change. I know some mothers who were SAHMs with maybe one or two children for a few years and then struggled with guilt because they ended up wanting or needing to do things differently when the second/third came along. That could also happen with a working mom, wanting to stay at home down the road if something in the circumstances change or if she just feels burnt out in the workplace and wants a break. There should not be guilt when you are making decisions for the benefit of the family. And I think the whole family benefits when the mother is most comfortable with her choices.
 
SDFgirl said:
I'm having some reservations about quitting my teaching job.
Many details go into the decision about whether to keep your job or stay at home -- it goes way beyond just how many dollars he brings home:

How stable is your husband's job?
Does he have good insurance/benefits?
If you need/want to go back to work, how soon could you reasonably find another job?
Is your marriage stable?
How available is good day care?
Do you have family support in the area?
What are your family's long-term financial goal (i.e., college savings, retirement)?

In the long run, you have to decide what's best, given your circumstances and your resources. I'm also a teacher, so I understand that it's something of a unique job, hard to compare to other professions. Here's what it's been like for me as a working mom/teacher:

My first daughter was expected in April, but didn't arrive until May -- perfect for a teacher. I had a sub for the end of the year, then I had the whole summer home with her. By the time August rolled around, I was physically ready to go back, and she wasn't a tiny, tiny thing anymore -- she was sitting up and eating solid food by the time I went back to school.

My second daughter was born in late June. Not quite so perfect -- she was only about 6 weeks old when school started. I'm a high school teacher, and we're on block scheduling, so I stayed home during the fall semester and went back to school in January. New classes, new students, it was like I never left.

The timing of their births was good in both cases; however, if you're not so fortunate -- if you have an August or September due date, for example, don't stress it. This is a "problem" that'll only affect you for one year.

In my area, the school system must allow you to take up to two years off following the birth of your child. They must give you your teaching job back at the end of that two years; however, they do not have to place you in the same school, and they do not have to give you the same age level. I don't know about you, but I've put in lots of years, and I am very attached to MY classroom, MY seniors, MY clubs . . . it's not like other jobs, where you can pick up your same responsibilities again. I've spent years perfecting what I do with my seniors. If I were suddenly told I'd have to teach sophomores, I'd have to familiarize myself with new novels, write new lesson plans . . . while dealing with a new baby!

Think about your teaching license. If you choose to stay home a couple years, be sure to keep it current so you can return to teaching, if and when you choose.

As my first summer wore away, I was very nervous about going back to school. My husband was supportive either way, but seeing that I was worried about it, he gave me some good advice: Go back for two months, give it a good try, and if you're not happy, if the baby's not thriving, if you're stressed, THEN put in your notice. I went back to school, and things went smoothly.

Since I work 7:00-2:30, my husband has always done the morning routine: dressed the girls, fed them breakfast, drove them to daycare. I think this is part of why he's very, very close to both girls. I see some guys who are essentially Dad in name only; not my husband. He does hair in piggy-tails, packs school lunches, and signs last-minute permission slips -- things that are usually left to moms.

Something I see SAHMs do poorly sometimes: Because they're at home, they do EVERYTHING for the child, and that does make sense on one level. However, if they decide to go back to work a few years later, it's hard to get Dad to start doing his share of the work with the kids. MANY dads just don't "get with the program" and realize that things change when mom goes back to work. I think working moms kind of have a leg-up in that regard because the dads never have a chance to "get spoiled" -- they have to help out from the very beginning.

Since I get off work mid-afternoon, I'm the afternoon parent. When they were younger, I picked them up from day care. It was always a problem when they were infants because they'd just be getting up from their after-lunch nap, and they were frequently cranky. Now that they're older, I'm home before the bus gets to our house. I have plenty of time to help with homework and start dinner before my husband gets home, so we have evenings free for family time.

I think the key to our success is that we two have worked together at parenting. When he goes out of town, life is miserable, but that's not often. If he travelled constantly, my lifestyle would not work -- that's the kind of thing I meant when I said you ahve to look at your circumstances and your resources.

One horrible thing about being a teacher and a working mom: when the girls were younger, I had to pay for their day care all summer (when I wasn't getting a paycheck) or lose their spot. Good day care's not easy to find, so I did it.

When they first started school, I had a bad situation -- bad financially, that is -- with after-school care. My high school classes finished up at 2:30, and the elementary school they attended finished at the same time. It'd be 3:00 by the time I could get out the door and drive to their school . . . so I had to pay FULL PRICE for their after-school care (and let me tell you, it's almost as bad as day care), even though all they only stayed long enough to get into the after-school care room and eat their snacks. Often they'd be upset since I'd walk in the door to pick them up just as the group was lining up to go to the playground. Since I was paying for after-school care anyway, once or twice a week I'd stop and do my quick, necessary errands (any mom'll tell you that it's soooo much quicker to do errands alone) so that we could go straight home.

Also, the girls both had some transition issues every August when they were younger. They'd become accustomed to sleeping late, being at home all day . . . then we'd have to get back into our busy routine again. They were always fussy for the first few weeks of school. A toddler can't comprehend why Mommy stayed home for three months, then suddenly went back to work; my co-workers complained of the same problem with toddlers. I expect it's easier for people who have the same work schedule year-round, but the summer months are worth it!

Another negative for teachers is that we can't just walk out the door if our children get sick. If my daughters' schools call, I have to let MY school office know, then I have to wait for a sub to come take over MY classes. My girls are very healthy, and this has only been a problem a handful of times, but it's not fun for me or them. Our solution: We've made sure that the school knows that DAD is the first-call-when-sick parent. They typically call Mom first, but in our case, he can usually drop what he's doing and pick up a sick child very quickly -- he might have to go back to work that night to make up what he's doing, but he can respond more quickly in an emergency.

Also, you already know how difficult it is for a teacher to be out of the classroom . . . writing those lesson plans out in great detail, returning the next day to see that the sub completely ignored them . . . if your child has any type of ongoing medical problem, this could be miserable. In most jobs, if you're out, the work piles up on your desk . . . for a teacher, you have to do the work whether you're actually there or not. My girls had trouble with ear infections after they stopped nursing (why'd I ever stop nursing them?), and this was a problem for us for a while, but they outgrew it.

Financially, day care really cut into my first few years of teaching. I didn't bring home a whole lot, but I was still solidly in the black. Teachers don't tend to spend a lot on their wardrobes, lunches, etc. -- it's a job that doesn't "cost a lot". However, even in those "lean years", I built up years towards my pension, I built up sick days and other benefits, I put money into my 401K, and I earned my tenure -- those things are just as important as a paycheck.

As a teacher, you know that you essentially have one "job opportunity time" each year. If you're not hired in August, you're probably not going to get a teaching job that year. You could sub, but personally, I wouldn't do this job for sub pay and no benefits. If you're hired mid-way through the year -- say, to take over a class in which the teacher has left for maternity leave, you won't get a year towards retirement for that. It's JUST a paycheck. Again, not such an attractive offer. The point: If you were to decide that you needed the money, or if your husband were to lose his job, you'd have few options until next August. You have to look at the teaching job market in your area (and your other circumstances) and decide if this is a worthwhile risk for your family.

Now that my girls are both in school, teaching is absolutely a perfect mom-job. I still have to pay before-school care for my youngest (who goes to a late-start elementary school and doesn't start class until 9:00). I have no problem attending their special events, etc. because the school system's a very family-friendly place to work. I can zip over to their schools during my planning period, and I"m allowed a couple days per year to do field trips with their classes. They go to school with me on teacher workdays.

Most importantly, my girls were always safe and happy. They thrived in day care and at home. They learned and grew. They're fantastic kids by anyone's standards. While balancing work and kids is sometimes stressful, it's possible to do it well.
 
I say try the first year at home, it will give you some time to adjust. Late night feedings, possible colic baby, keeping up with doctor appointments and a new schedule...all those things can be very "stressfull". If you have the option and the resources take a year off, I would.
 
beattyfamily said:
My advice is to wait and see how you feel AFTER the baby is born. Things change and your feelings might too.

I always thought I'd go back to work and while pregnant I was looking for daycare and would leave each place in tears. I realized I didn't want to leave my child.

Still a stay at home mom now.

Good luck and lets hope it can stay positive and civil. To each their own everyone. :goodvibes

That was EXACTLY my experience! When I was pregnant, I was sure I was going to go back to my job as an engineer. But once that baby was born, boy, did I change! And now that my kids are grown, I'm so glad I had those years at home with them.
 
You could do it all part-time. I did that for a while and it worked out well. DS had good interaction with other children and I made some money plus stayed in the workforce. Just a thought.
 
Simba's Mom said:
That was EXACTLY my experience! When I was pregnant, I was sure I was going to go back to my job as an engineer. But once that baby was born, boy, did I change! And now that my kids are grown, I'm so glad I had those years at home with them.

I was the same way and an engineer, too. My kids also ended up having severe food allergies and asthma which the local daycares weren't equipped to handle. This helped formulate my decision to stay home.

A couple statements that I take issue with are (1) that kids who have been in daycare are smarter and more well rounded or better equipped to succeed in school and (2) that daycares and preschools are the same thing. (1) I just don't see that in the school my kids attend. My boys are at the tops of their classes and happy, friendly kids. Even parents like them. (2) Preschool lasts a couple hours per day and can exist within a daycare for their 3 and 4 year olds, but putting a toddler in a center for several hours every day is not sending him or her to preschool.
 
Planogirl said:
You could do it all part-time. I did that for a while and it worked out well. DS had good interaction with other children and I made some money plus stayed in the workforce. Just a thought.
I totally agree with part-time! I didn't read everything, so I apologize if I repeat someone, but I am a speech pathologist in the public school preschool program and I find that part-time is perfect for me and our family. I work 3 days a week, have summers and holidays off and I feel like I have the best of both worlds.

When DD5 was born I worked full time. She was born in July and I took 12 weeks off from the start of school. I went back around Thanksgiving and DH stayed home with her until March (he runs a landscaping and lawn care business, so we needed a sitter only when it snowed.) When it came time to go back in the fall, I decided to try to stay home, and boy it was not for me! I ended up gettting a part-time job with a local organization doing therapy with infants and toddlers. My DS was born during this time and again I took 12 weeks, but he had to go right to the sitter. It was a great job, but the cost of our benefits tripled in the 3 years I worked there! So last year I went back to the school system part time and it is great! I am able to be with my kids and able to be help others' kids as well.

The daycare situation is the most difficult decision you will have to make. Do your research and visit lots of places. My kids were with my good friend in her home (they were the only ones there) until Labor Day when she quit...another story. Now they stay with my mom 1 day a week and my cousin the other 2. It is an ideal situation for all of us. I hope you will find what is best for your family. Personally, I am a better mom when I work than when I stayed home, but you will probably have to see what happens when the baby arives. Lots of luck!
 
momof2inPA said:
A couple statements that I take issue with are (1) that kids who have been in daycare are smarter and more well rounded or better equipped to succeed in school


Did someone say that???? :sad2:
 
I think people have to make these choices for themselves and make the choices that are best for THEIR lives and that women ALL women should support each other and those decisions. That said, I know several teachers in the lower elementary grades who say you can tell a big difference in kids who went from home to kindergarten with no preschool and those who at least had some experience with preschool. So take it for what it's worth but the bashing of parents who choose to or have to work outside the home is neither helpful nor necessary. Just my 2 cents.
 
That said, I know several teachers in the lower elementary grades who say you can tell a big difference in kids who went from home to kindergarten with no preschool and those who at least had some experience with preschool.

I think that is a completely different but valid issue. I stayed home but still sent my older daughter to two years of morning preschool.
 
Gymbomom said:
Did someone say that???? :sad2:

I didn't see anyone say that, but I could have missed it.

But I have seen more than one attempt to "guilt" moms into staying home, when that may not be the best option for them or what they want to do.
 
BuckNaked said:
I agree, and we don't ever know how things are going to turn out.

I'm a firm believer in each mom doing what is best for her particular situation, and part of that is taking in information from both sides of the debate. But I don't like the notion of trying to "guilt" a mom into one side or the other.
I agree that lots of moms try to "guilt" others into thinking as they do -- it's often a sign that that they don't feel too good about thier own choices, and convincing other validates their own choices.

When people say things like "You'll never regret having stayed home", that's an appeal to the emotions. It's right up there with the comment "No one on his death bed ever wished that he had spent more time at work" . . . which is probably true, but I'd be willing to bet that a large number of people on their death beds have wished that they were leaving their wives with a paid-off house, their children with a better college fund, etc. You have to look at the big picture and from every angle -- the decision to stay at home or to work cannot be made from a purely emotional standpoint, nor can it be made from a purely financial standpoint.
 












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