Spring Direct Incentives 2/9-4/27

[DanCali]

Same. I considered the current SSR sale just to get the blue card. But after running the numbers I just cant justify the $60 premium ($150 direct vs $90 resale).

I do the exact same calculation, but I think I put more weight in the percent difference.

In the case of SSR $150 vs. $90 is 67% more.
In the case of PVB $210 vs. $150 is 33% more.
In the case of VGC $330 v s$270 is only 22% more.

60 points difference in all cases, but I'd be more likely to buy direct at the higher priced resorts. Maybe that's the wrong way to look at it.... if you live long enough they all end up at zero anyway

 

[eticketplease]

That wasn't my point. I deal with this on the cash side and I can tell you that there have indeed been specials for the Disney Visa or other promotion that I heard from clients before I officially got the email that morning.

Things can and do make it out to consumers sooner.

It was clarified that when the person called back that the guide didn’t realize the person had the Disney Visa so it obviously was there.

I was simply trying to give a different perspective from someone who has been in that exact same position.

I can see your point however I think this is slightly different in the fact that you don't work directly for Disney where the guides do work under a branch of Disney so they should have received the information.

Ultimately it sounds like the guides were given the information but just weren't ready to volunteer that information to folks they already set to receive a commission check from the contract sold.
I'm sure if it was a new person that nothing was set yet they would inquire about whether the card was held in the household to offer the extra discount.

 

[crackerjack21]

Thanks to this board we just saved an extra $650. We were in the process of buying 150 points at poly with the military discount. D23 did not stack so our numbers were 235-15 (military) - 9 (developer credit) = 211 X 150 = 31,650 less magical beginnings $3,000 = 28,650.

When the new incentives came out, I checked and thought well they got worse so we went ahead.

Then I checked these boards and saw @ClaraOswald post about the visa credit. As others have said I did not get an email from chase about this so THANK YOU.

Reached out to our guide and they are rewriting the contract, our new numbers are 243-15-8=220 X 150 = 33,000 - 1,000 anniversary credit- 1,000 visa credit - MB 3,000 = 28,000.

I don’t post often but I do read a lot and enjoy everyone’s insights and strategies and obviously saving money.

 

[Sandisw]

I can see your point however I think this is slightly different in the fact that you don't work directly for Disney where the guides do work under a branch of Disney so they should have received the information.

Ultimately it sounds like the guides were given the information but just weren't ready to volunteer that information to folks they already set to receive a commission check from the contract sold.
I'm sure if it was a new person that nothing was set yet they would inquire about whether the card was held in the household to offer the extra discount.

We can move on as I simply do not ascribe that the guide was trying to keep it secret in some nefarious way.

The morning of new incentives and a new way of sending out quotes, with guides not always getting the information ahead of time, I’m willing to give them benefit of the doubt.

 

[Brian Noble]

A Guide's job is to sell timeshare points. Their job is not to give you the best price on those timeshare points. If you are ready to sign based on what they've told you so far, they are not going to go out of their way to change something.

We might not like that, and we might prefer it were different. But that's the deal.

 

[juliebee]

A Guide's job is to sell timeshare points. Their job is not to give you the best price on those timeshare points. If you are ready to sign based on what they've told you so far, they are not going to go out of their way to change something.

We might not like that, and we might prefer it were different. But that's the deal.

If any guides are reading this thread, just know those that treat buyers better by letting them know of the all the incentives will get repeat customers and will get referrals. I will not be using this guide again and if it was possible to change now, I would. I'll go more in depth about the full conversation once this revised paperwork is presented to me and I sign.

 

[eticketplease]

We can move on as I simply do not ascribe that the guide was trying to keep it secret in some nefarious way.

Certainly entitled to your opinion, but the facts are that the guide did not volunteer this information and did not inquire if said customer had a Disney Visa once the discount was available. Whether you deem this particular action as nefarious is up to your interupation but it was certainly kept secret from the member in this case.

This whole issue has to do with whether the guides had actually received the information in the first place as you suggested they had might not have in which case I had questioned management and their ability to communicate in house when notification was sent from an outside source of the offer to the public.

I agree we can move on

 

[Brian Noble]

Sure.

But it's also the case that the vast (vast!) majority of buyers do not know what they do not know, and are thrilled with their purchase even if they did not get every last $500 discount they could have.

 

[byurick]

I know some of you really like your guides (heck mine is pretty cool) but we are not friends. He is selling a product that he gets commission on and I am buying it. That's it and I don't fault him for not giving up every single discount especially if I've already said yes.

Back to the topic, I like using my direct SSR to book new resorts so I don't regret buying it back in 2024. Heck if I had the extra cash I would tack on a few more points this round.

 

[Canchaser143]

I cant resist this!!!

VDH AT 150 POINTS $31,800

SSR AT 150 POINTS $27,000

VDH AT 200 POINTS $41,900

SSR AT 200 POINTS $34,000

Savings of $4,800 for 150 points of SSR vs VDH
Savings of $7,900 for 200 points of SSR vs VDH

250 points of SSR is $42,500 vs 200 points of VDH is $41,900. Can get 50 more direct points SSR for $600 more

PRETENDING I DO NOT SEE THISSSSS

 

[Girlstar30]

PRETENDING I DO NOT SEE THISSSSS

 

[DanCali]

Certainly entitled to your opinion, but the facts are that the guide did not volunteer this information and did not inquire if said customer had a Disney Visa once the discount was available. Whether you deem this particular action as nefarious is up to your interupation but it was certainly kept secret from the member in this case.

This whole issue has to do with whether the guides had actually received the information in the first place as you suggested they had might not have in which case I had questioned management and their ability to communicate in house when notification was sent from an outside source of the offer to the public.

I agree we can move on

Just FYI - my guide told me that they are not allowed to bring it up unless I mention I have the card, or ask about that discount specifically. Remember, they always mention they are on a recorded line... would you risk losing your job over it? You can blame DVD over the policy, but I wouldn't take it out on the guides.

 

[Girlstar30]

I dont understand, why offer these discounts if its some big secret. And now no easy charts for us to see. If Disney is reading this, the charts would make it more likely for me to buy more when I see the max I can afford laid out easily

 

[juliebee]

Just FYI - my guide told me that they are not allowed to bring it up unless I mention I have the card, or ask about that discount specifically. Remember, they always mention they are on a recorded line... would you risk losing your job over it? You can blame DVD over the policy, but I wouldn't take it out on the guides.

interesting that they said they can't bring it up unless asked specifically about it. That would explain my guide's conversation with me. And goes back to ask your guide about everything- specifically mention if you have a Disney Visa, D23 gold membership (free with Disney+), Castaway membership, annual pass, etc. (some of these aren't not applicable now, but could be in the future)

 

[Makai]

If any guides are reading this thread, just know those that treat buyers better by letting them know of the all the incentives will get repeat customers and will get referrals. I will not be using this guide again and if it was possible to change now, I would. I'll go more in depth about the full conversation once this revised paperwork is presented to me and I sign.

This is one reason why I switched guides. It made me delay buying direct when I was not given correct information after sharing what I had learned here, and on podcasts. I likely would have bought Poly last year had my guide been more honest or better informed. Even my new guide (who is great and experienced) sent me an incorrect pricing sheet for VDH when I made the decision to choose it. I need to really look over those incentive discounts on my contract!

 

[Sandisw]

Just FYI - my guide told me that they are not allowed to bring it up unless I mention I have the card, or ask about that discount specifically. Remember, they always mention they are on a recorded line... would you risk losing your job over it? You can blame DVD over the policy, but I wouldn't take it out on the guides.

That is a great piece of information and helps to give more context and explains why the offer was not presented, and can’t be presented, until asked.

 

[AstroBlasters]

I really don’t like that they aren’t sharing the pricing sheets. I know when I purchased direct it made me jump from 150 to 200 points because there was a material incentive increase. I also split the contract into 2x100 pointers…. if I could go back now it would probably be 4x50 pointers.

 

[Sandisw]

I dont understand, why offer these discounts if its some big secret. And now no easy charts for us to see. If Disney is reading this, the charts would make it more likely for me to buy more when I see the max I can afford laid out easily

It could have something to do with the T and C of the offer, it could have something to do with specific states or countries, or it could just be DVD policy.

Maybe the reason behind the change to those links and charts was because there were all sorts of qualifiers that go into this?

At least everyone knows that they need to specify !

 

[Girlstar30]

It could have something to do with the T and C of the offer, it could have something to do with specific states or countries, or it could just be DVD policy.

Maybe the reason behind the change to those links and charts was because there were all sorts of qualifiers that go into this?

At least everyone knows that they need to specify !

The problem is everybody doesnt know they need to specify, only the small number of informed buyers on Disboards. It seems unfair that some people are getting better discounts than others simply because they dont know about Disboards or maybe older and not internet savvy.

It seems to me that perhaps those discounts are offered to the savvy people because they are more likely to buy with additional discounts and the rest will buy not knowing its possible. I could be wrong ofc. More can be done as always, more charts can be released with different combinations of discounts.

As someone else said they really dont want to spend all this time calculating and figuring out discounts. But as always, it is what it is

 

[Sandisw]

The problem is everybody doesnt know they need to specify, only the small number of informed buyers on Disboards. It seems unfair that some people are getting better discounts than others simply because they dont know about Disboards or maybe older and not internet savvy.

It seems to me that perhaps those discounts are offered to the savvy people because they are more likely to buy with additional discounts and the rest will buy not knowing its possible. I could be wrong ofc. More can be done as always, more charts can be released with different combinations of discounts.

As someone else said they really dont want to spend all this time calculating and figuring out discounts. But as always, it is what it is

I get that but again, if the guides can’t mention certain things, and it’s up to the buyers then they can’t and there are obviously reasons why.

Something to consider, given the new quotes make clear about the 7 days..

Maybe having those out there was causing legal issues for them?

What we know now is that with the Disney Visa discount, one has to mention it, and if they don’t the guide cant add it to the quote.

I don’t think it has anything to do with who is or is not a savvy buyer because some received emails from Chase promoting at as a new offer from them.

At least we have the reason why the guide didn’t include it and why guides won’t be including it if the buyer doesn’t ask.

It might be time to get back to discussing the incentives in this thread.

Maybe it would make sense to have a new thread for those who want to discuss the changes by DVD to quote sheets, etc