Spanish Version of US National Athem

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Laura said:
Just to split some hairs today, the lyrics and music have not actually been officially designated, just the song's title:


So someone could write a "Star-Spangled Banner" in Pig Latin and call it the national anthem, I guess?


Actually--

a) Designation. - The composition consisting of the words and
music known as
the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.


while not spelled out--the song is known by one name and by one melody and with one set of lyrics....so yes----it is officially designated.


The same song in Pig Latin or with different words--would not be the same song and would not be the National Anthem.

Nice try though.
 
va32h said:
I agree. There was a discussion about this same issue on the radio this morning, and people were getting absolutely hysterical over nothing.

The existence of a recording of the Star Spangled Banner in Spanish, (or French, or German, or Finnish, or Russian or Urdu for that matter) will not render our nation asunder, or destroy democracy, or ruin the American Way of Life, or help the terrorists win, or whatever hyperbolic outcome people are apparently dreading with such fear and outrage.
:thumbsup2 I completely agree. The uproar over this is astounding. I am having a difficult time seeing anything wrong with it. The country has managed to survive many decades of singers, good, bad and indifferent, singing, garbling and otherwise mangling this song before all kinds of events. Heck, our country even survived Roseanne's screeching rendition, complete with crotch grab. I feel fairly confident we will survive this.

As my grandfather used to tell me, "Just like kidney stones, this, too, shall pass."
 
Ok. A question for those that are not bothered by it or can't understand the uproar from others.

What would someone have to do (ok, leave Bush OUT of this) to make you feel the way we do? What would you consider extremely disrespectful to America (PLEASE!! Leave Bush out of this!) that would get a rise out of you?
 
Ugh I wish all the people that want to live here would just speak english. Why do we need a spanish version of everything.
 

I just can't worked up about it either way. :confused3

It's probably more respectful than having Roseanne sing the National Anthem ever again
 
cgbsilver@hotmail.co said:
Totally Agree with you. All this is coming from the same US citizens who go on vacations and expect everybody in other countries to speak english to them. Or have lived in other countries and when they go back to the states, can only say words like hello, water and bathroom in the language of the country they have been.

AGAIN CHILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.
ead79 said:
I also think there is a big difference between vacationing abroad and moving to another country. I would never expect a tourist to learn English if they visited the US, but I do feel that people should learn the predominant language if they move to a country. I certainly wouldn’t move to France and expect everyone to accommodate me by speaking to me in English after having lived there for a long time. I would learn French.
Actually, as a person who does believe in learning languages, I'd never go to a country and expect everyone there to speak my language. In fact my minor in college was foreign languages (to go along with my Travel & Tourism Major). I respect other cultures and their languages.

I really don't care if they sing our National Anthem in Spanish or not. But what I do object to is the fact that they changed the words and the reasons why they recorded it. They are basically telling illegal immigrants that it's ok to leave your own country and enter and live in another one illegally. What about the fact that people can become citizens of this country while many other countries you can never become citizens in? They are basically saying that it's ok to break the laws and basically denigrate the country and the major language of the country you choose to live in.

I say that if you can't respect our laws, then you don't deserve to be a citizen of the US. If you can't respect our laws or don't like them, then leave.

I will not make a person who is here illegally feel welcomed. However, anyone that is here legally, I will welcome with open arms.

Viking said:
Nobody will be FORCED to sing it in Spanish, so please grant your fellow citizens the right to sing it in their preferred language. And I'm sure that it will not be sung in Spanish during official ceremonies - at least not before, say, 2020 when you'll get your first hispanic president ;)
Yeah. The rate things are going, we'll have a hispanic president before we have a female president. :rolleyes:
Chuck S said:
I assume you'll be learning Spanish, then? It won't be too many years down the road until people of Hispanic origin are in the majority. Many parts of Texas are over 60% Hispanic, Spanish is the primary language in some areas of the US. That is the difference in a "primary" language and an "official" language, which the US does not have.
Already here in Indy, there are school systems that are requiring students to have a basic understanding of Spanish before they graduate high school. They can't even speak, read or write English! And that goes for the kids who were born here!
I also know of several people that tried getting jobs and were turned down because they didn't speak Spanish. One person tried getting a job at McDonalds! And the next time he went there after he was turned down, the person behind the counter could not even understand enough English to take his order. Sorry, but that is just wrong. The predominant language of this country is not Spanish! Certain parts have many who do. But it's still not for the entire country.

And to set the record straight, I've known many people who have come to this country legally and can speak the predominant language of English. Because they respect and love this country and it's laws.
 
Charade said:
Ok. A question for those that are not bothered by it or can't understand the uproar from others.

What would someone have to do (ok, leave Bush OUT of this) to make you feel the way we do? What would you consider extremely disrespectful to America (PLEASE!! Leave Bush out of this!) that would get a rise out of you?
That's a tough question. I'm having a difficult time coming up with anything.
 
cteddiesgirl said:
The predominant language of this country is not Spanish! Certain parts have many who do. But it's still not for the entire country.

But again, a "predominant" language is not an "official" language. If you feel strongly that the US official language should be English, you are ostracizing the wrong people...you should be making your case to the US congress to get them to write an "official language" amendment.
 
I completely agree. The uproar over this is astounding. I am having a difficult time seeing anything wrong with it. The country has managed to survive many decades of singers, good, bad and indifferent, singing, garbling and otherwise mangling this song before all kinds of events. Heck, our country even survived Roseanne's screeching rendition, complete with crotch grab. I feel fairly confident we will survive this.

it's not about surviving (for me anyways). i can be offended by something without thinking that america is going to fall apart because of it.
 
caitycaity said:
it's not about surviving (for me anyways). i can be offended by something without thinking that america is going to fall apart because of it.
Let me rephrase then. Americans have managed to recover from some utterly offensive and disgraceful renditions of TSSB through the years. Like other things we get offended by, we keep moving forward or we work through some recovery. My point is that this rendition will not be fatally or terminally offensive -- unless they bring in Roseanne and/or Gilbert Gottfried to sing.
 
My point is that this rendition will not be fatally or terminally offensive

guess i missed where people were saying that it would be fatally or terminally offensive. something can be offensive prima facie, regardless of outcome.
 
Charade said:
Huh? We shouldn't be proud of winning the Revolution? Where would we be now if we didn't? Eating crumpets and drinking tea at three.
That song is about the War of 1812 not the Revoloutionary war
 
I find it fascinating that a British studio recording a Spanish version of the Star Spangled Banner is raising the ire of so many here. It is as ludicrous as killing people because of a political cartoon (think Muhommed wearing a bomb turbin). Until recently, dissent, free thinking and protest were allowed. IT IS A PROTEST SONG!!

Of course as a protest song, it sounds like a high school choir did it, but I digress.

Good heavens!!! Someone might do an English version of the Canadian National Anthem, eh?

Be proud of the civil liberties that the founding fathers (and mothers) gave us and the Bush Administration is trying to take away.

Chubby Hubby
(I'm putting away my soapbox now)
 
caitycaity said:
guess i missed where people were saying that it would be fatally or terminally offensive. something can be offensive prima facie, regardless of outcome.
I forgot -- that's the -- what -- 31st Amendment -- we all have the right to be offended. ;)

You're offended; I'm offended; all God's children are getting offended over something these days. We get offended and surprisingly most actually get over it with no lasting damage. That's the only point I'm trying to make. I've seen this same scenario play out repeatedly -- the only difference is the cast of characters this time. I can hardly wait to see who the cast is next week.
 
caitycaity said:
guess i missed where people were saying that it would be fatally or terminally offensive. something can be offensive prima facie, regardless of outcome.

Umm... point of order councilor, Prima Facie means "On its face". It is hard if not impossible to be "On its Face" offensive, unless one is Howard Stern. And even then the First Amendment protects him.

ChubbyHubby.
 
ok, my neigbor is friends with one of the singers that is recording.

This whole thing is a bad idea.. funny thing is you have Puerto Rican singers doing it.. Hmmm if you were born in Puerto Rico you are an american citizen.
 
ChubbyHubby said:
Be proud of the civil liberties that the founding fathers (and mothers) gave us and the Bush Administration is trying to take away.

How is relocation a civil liberty?

What civil liberties are being violated???

You want to move here--do so legally!

I cannot go park my butt in any country and then scream my civil liberties are being violated if they ask me to leave for not being properly documented!

Since when did USA become United Countries of the World?

Last I checked--my butt needs a passport to reenter my own country. If I don't have one---have to go through some long long process so that I can enter legally.

So are my civil liberties violated? NO! That is to make sure they know that I have the right to be here.

These illegal immigrants have NO GOD GIVEN RIGHT to be here. They have NONE!

How is it a civil liberty violation to have a process for LEGAL entry into the US!

Should a 17 year old contact the ACLU b/c he/she cannot go clubbing b/c they do not meet the requiremetn for entering a club?

Surely dancing and having fun are part of the pursuit of happiness. They must be having their rights violated. :rolleyes:
 
LisaNJ25 said:
ok, my neigbor is friends with one of the singers that is recording.

This whole thing is a bad idea.. funny thing is you have Puerto Rican singers doing it.. Hmmm if you were born in Puerto Rico you are an american citizen.


Ummm--that would be b/c they are a US territory as is the US Virgin Islands--and maybe Guam...I forget the rest.

http://welcome.topuertorico.org/history5.shtml


So---we should make Mexico a territory then. Problem solved.
 
What would someone have to do (ok, leave Bush OUT of this) to make you feel the way we do? What would you consider extremely disrespectful to America (PLEASE!! Leave Bush out of this!) that would get a rise out of you?

A law requiring the national anthem to only ever be performed in English, probably. Investing one's respect in a song or a flag or a Pledge, instead of in the purest embodiment of the American spirit - the demonstration and exercise of our freedom of speech.

"Freedom of speech" is such a cliche - we all get tired of hearing it, even me.

But we are not the greatest country in the world because our anthem is so impressive, or our flag is so cool, or our White House so awe-inspiring. We are the greatest country in the world because you - whether you are a citizen or not - can sing that anthem in another language, or burn that flag in protest, or stand in front of the White House and say what you really think about it's current occupant.
 
Umm... point of order councilor, Prima Facie means "On its face". It is hard if not impossible to be "On its Face" offensive, unless one is Howard Stern. And even then the First Amendment protects him.

yes, thanks. i know what it means. :rolleyes:

and yes, something can definitely be offensive "on its face".

don't see what the first amendment has to do with anything. i'm just saying i think it is offensive, not that they don't have the right to do it (assuming they are american citizens).

besides, as troy mcclure pointed out, it's the 31st amendment that is relevant here, not the first. ;)
 


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