Spanish Version of US National Athem

[wdwoldtimer]

How do you now they are idiots???

How many language do you know??

Would you consider yourself an idiot, just because you can only speak english ? or Because you will not learn another language???

Just things to consider, before insulting people you do not know. Grow up.

I speak 10 languages. English and 9 others I made up. I just don't go around trying make everyone else adopt my made up ones because I'm too lazy to learn what they speak.

I used the term "idiot" to refer to their idiotic attempt at changing the National Anthem, not as a statement in regards to their intelligence.

You contradict yourself...you rag on "the same US citizens who go on vacations and expect everybody in other countries to speak english to them", yet you appear to be rallying behind NON-US citizens who come to this country and expect everyone to speak (Spanish) to them.

 

[AuntieM03]

I speak 10 languages. English and 9 others I made up. I just don't go around trying make everyone else adopt my made up ones because I'm too lazy to learn what they speak.

Okay now that's just funny

 

[Viking]

Nobody's going to sing "The Star Spangled Banner" in Spanish at state ceremonies. It's just some recording artists who are doing a version of it in Spanish. They're not petitioning the government to have the anthem changed (the law recognizing the anthem doesn't have the words in it, anyway). Get a grip.

Don't try to state facts when replying to one of Charade's posts- He's too deeply rooted in his prejudice and polemics

 

[cgbsilver@hotmail.co]

I speak 10 languages. English and 9 others I made up. I just don't go around trying make everyone else adopt my made up ones because I'm too lazy to learn what they speak.

That is funny....But I don't think it is their expectation for non spanish speaking people to learn it, sing it or even like it.

You contradict yourself...you rag on "the same US citizens who go on vacations and expect everybody in other countries to speak english to them", yet you appear to be rallying behind NON-US citizens who come to this country and expect everyone to speak (Spanish) to them.

I don't think I am. All I am saying is, that there should not be a double standard. It is not OK for either US citizens to go abroad and expect everyone to speak english, nor is it OK for people from other countries to go to US and expect people to speak their language. However from what I have experience, in other countries people are more accomodating and don't yell out "speak the language" quite as often.

In general. Can't we all just get along?? LOL

 

[Viking]

Personally I like crumpets and tea.

Seriously, I don't care for this song either. America the Beautiful and a few other would be much better choices IMO. That's not said due to disrespect for the current song, just that musically I think it's kind of bad and way too hard to sing.

Yup,
'America the Beautiful' is much nicer. I have to state that although I'm not American I had goosebumps when I read that song's lyrics on the monument up on Pike's Peak and let my eyes wander across the wonderful view from up there.

 

[HonestAbe]

I'm just waiting for someone to post they don't see anything wrong with it and declare the rest of us racists.

I dont see anything wrong with it you racists.

Just kidding. You come to ol' Abe's country and start belittling my national anthem I may just have to throw down a good ol' country a-whoopin, boy.

BTW - I just liked the fish smiley.

 

[Viking]

Totally Agree with you. All this is coming from the same US citizens who go on vacations and expect everybody in other countries to speak english to them. Or have lived in other countries and when they go back to the states, can only say words like hello, water and bathroom in the language of the country they have been.

AGAIN CHILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

Well said,
I know many Americans who stayed over here as GIs or due to work for several years and didn't learn more German than required to order a beer
Only very few of them learned the language, because nearly everywhere here you find somebody speaking English.

BTW,
you can't translate a song verbatim as it still has to rhyme and match the melody.

Nobody will be FORCED to sing it in Spanish, so please grant your fellow citizens the right to sing it in their preferred language. And I'm sure that it will not be sung in Spanish during official ceremonies - at least not before, say, 2020 when you'll get your first hispanic president

 

[caitycaity]

a) this REALLY rubs me the wrong way.

b) honest abe - you are craking me up.

 

[Laura]

Since the song, i.e.the lyrics and the words, was officially designated as the National Anthem of the United States of America by an act of Congress in 1931...these idiots can sing whatever they want. It still won't be the National Anthem. It could be a Britney Spears song sung in Pig Latin for that matter.

Here's a novel idea....how about just learning the freakin language...if you want to sing it as the National Anthem?!?

Just to split some hairs today, the lyrics and music have not actually been officially designated, just the song's title:

TITLE 36 - PATRIOTIC AND NATIONAL OBSERVANCES, CEREMONIES, AND
ORGANIZATIONS
Subtitle I - Patriotic and National Observances and Ceremonies
Part A - Observances and Ceremonies
CHAPTER 3 - NATIONAL ANTHEM, MOTTO, FLORAL EMBLEM, AND MARCH

-HEAD-
Sec. 301. National anthem

-STATUTE-
(a) Designation. - The composition consisting of the words and
music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b) Conduct During Playing. - During a rendition of the national
anthem -
(1) when the flag is displayed -
(A) all present except those in uniform should stand at
attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;
(B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with
their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder,
the hand being over the heart; and
(C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at
the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until
the last note; and

(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face
toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the
flag were displayed.

So someone could write a "Star-Spangled Banner" in Pig Latin and call it the national anthem, I guess?

 

[ead79]

As far as I’m concerned, I think they can sing whatever they want in whatever language they want to. As long as it’s not the real anthem, then I think it’s just irritating and silly. However, I would be outraged if there was an attempt made to change the official US National Anthem to Spanish. Plus, it’s not really the National Anthem if they changed the words, IMHO.

I don't think I am. All I am saying is, that there should not be a double standard. It is not OK for either US citizens to go abroad and expect everyone to speak english, nor is it OK for people from other countries to go to US and expect people to speak their language. However from what I have experience, in other countries people are more accomodating and don't yell out "speak the language" quite as often.

I don’t know any Americans that expect everyone to speak English to them when they travel abroad. When I went to Italy I was surprised at how many people spoke English, but I certainly did not expect them to. I was planning on using a few key phrases to get by while visiting.

I also think there is a big difference between vacationing abroad and moving to another country. I would never expect a tourist to learn English if they visited the US, but I do feel that people should learn the predominant language if they move to a country. I certainly wouldn’t move to France and expect everyone to accommodate me by speaking to me in English after having lived there for a long time. I would learn French.

 

[wdwoldtimer]

I don't think I am. All I am saying is, that there should not be a double standard. It is no OK for either US citizens to go abroad and expect everyone to speak english, nor is it OK for people from other countries to go to US and expect people to speak their language. However from what I have experience, in other countries people are more accomodating and don't yell out "speak the language" quiet as often.

In general. Can't we all just get along?? LOL

Majit do ekka faloma zeet fa o ne o moy demma com. Ngor je pip do ne moy shwappo ten dala pondi.

Oops, sorry, I slipped into my 5th made up language for a second. Well that's good, at least it appears that we agree that each country has its own primary language which should be respected by visitors. I'll take it a step further and say that a country's citizens and its illegal immigrants should also show that same respect for its primary language.

 

[helenabear]

I don't think I am. All I am saying is, that there should not be a double standard. It is not OK for either US citizens to go abroad and expect everyone to speak english, nor is it OK for people from other countries to go to US and expect people to speak their language. However from what I have experience, in other countries people are more accomodating and don't yell out "speak the language" quite as often.

In general. Can't we all just get along?? LOL

What does this have to do with it? Sorry, you won't get much sympathy from me. I went to Mexico on a cruise, we dealt with the people in Mexico that we were buying something from in Spanish. What's your point? I don't travel to countries where I expect people to talk to me.

I just don't think it is right to take our National Anthem (no matter how much I hate it) and change it and try to call it that. I don't care if they translate it to another language so someone can understand it. I just don't think you should change it to suit your country and your background and call it the National Anthem of the United States of America, especially to make somoene who is here illegally feel better.

If you live in the US, speak English. That's it, end of story. And don't dare think I'm racist or anything like that, because you would be barking up the wrong tree.

I'm not upset about this, I just don't think it is right to do that. I have no problem with what Canada does, and if someone wanted to do something liek that here, that's great. Just quit touching what is America so you 'feel better living here'

 

[Chuck S]

Majit do ekka faloma zeet fa o ne o moy demma com. Ngor je pip do ne moy shwappo ten dala pondi.

Oops, sorry, I slipped into my 5th made up language for a second. Well that's good, at least it appears that we agree that each country has its own primary language which should be respected by visitors. I'll take it a step further and say that a country's citizens and its illegal immigrants should also show that same respect for its primary language.

I assume you'll be learning Spanish, then? It won't be too many years down the road until people of Hispanic origin are in the majority. Many parts of Texas are over 60% Hispanic, Spanish is the primary language in some areas of the US. That is the difference in a "primary" language and an "official" language, which the US does not have.

 

[pansmermaidzlagoon]

I have no problem with it being translated into another language, although in doing so the translators should remain as true to the original as possible.

2 problems I have with this discussion:
1) this is about hispanics, they are not all or primarily illegal immigrants. This ridiculous assumption just shows your bias.
2) just because they have translated it for the purposes of a pop song or whatever does not mean they can't speak English...another ridiculous over-generalization.

If you can't make your argument without resorting to 1 and 2 above - maybe your argument is too weak to bother

This is a big uproar over nothing - the pop song will come out, be a bigger hit than necessary due to all this hype (they will be thanking all of you who are having a tizzy, believe me), and a couple months from now this will all fade away......

 

[wdwoldtimer]

I assume you'll be learning Spanish, then? It won't be too many years down the road until people of Hispanic origin are in the majority. Many parts of Texas are over 60% Hispanic, Spanish is the primary language in some areas of the US. That is the difference in a "primary" language and an "official" language, which the US does not have.

Actually I speak Spanish already...at least enough to survive on. I took 5 years in school and used it while spending a lot of time living/working in Mexico. In a few years, when the majority of the country only speaks Spanish, I'll have to adapt. (Unless my grass roots movement to change the official language to Findi, my made up language #5, is successful.)

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Wrong on so many levels!

 

[va32h]

This is a big uproar over nothing - the pop song will come out, be a bigger hit than necessary due to all this hype (they will be thanking all of you who are having a tizzy, believe me), and a couple months from now this will all fade away......

I agree. There was a discussion about this same issue on the radio this morning, and people were getting absolutely hysterical over nothing.

The existence of a recording of the Star Spangled Banner in Spanish, (or French, or German, or Finnish, or Russian or Urdu for that matter) will not render our nation asunder, or destroy democracy, or ruin the American Way of Life, or help the terrorists win, or whatever hyperbolic outcome people are apparently dreading with such fear and outrage.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

How do you now they are idiots???

How many language do you know??

Would you consider yourself an idiot, just because you can only speak english ? or Because you will not learn another language???

Just things to consider, before insulting people you do not know. Grow up.

Not many--but I don't plan to move to other countries and sing English versions of their anthems either as a pretend sign of patriotism for that nation.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I don't think I am. All I am saying is, that there should not be a double standard. It is not OK for either US citizens to go abroad and expect everyone to speak english, nor is it OK for people from other countries to go to US and expect people to speak their language. However from what I have experience, in other countries people are more accomodating and don't yell out "speak the language" quite as often.

In general. Can't we all just get along?? LOL

Actually it is not okay to do that.

While not fluent in French I tried my darnedest with it when we went to France. Some places--were helpful when they did speak English and knew I was struggling. But I knew also that it wasn't a trip to EPCOT with translation guides available at the gate when we arrived either.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

, so please grant your fellow citizens the right to sing it in their preferred language.

Unfortunatley many are NOT fellow citizens.