Some people are so rude!

[Indiana Rose Lee]

I'm with you on this one. It was quite clear to me that that your daughter is only two. I also thought your reply was very politely given; not sarcastic like some others.

Yeowl...some people read sarcasm where it doesn't exist. I saw she had a girl and was wondering if she felt this was a guy issue. No more no less.

DH will stand and me and my kids will squeeze into two seats. If there is someone who appears as though they could really use a seat, my boys will stand on either side of their dad. I will quietly tell them that they should stand so that person over there can have their seat.

"Will" assumes an event that has not occurred. For all I knew, she was talking about the future. That would include the little girl. Some people don't hold their daughters to the same standard, and I was wondering if that was how she looked at it.

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

What's that attitude look like? I would just need to see that before I decide if I think someone is acting entitled. My first inclination is to give the benefit of the doubt. I think that's the "world view" thing I was talking about.

Can we hear a loud "Amen!"

 

[bgohre]

Good God... ANOTHER thread? There is the exact SAME thread about 36 pages long (as I am sure there are 800 other threads the same) about three threads down.

Everyone thinks everyone else is rude... blah, blah, blah. I am not rude because... blah, blah, blah. Strollers, buses, last minute parade comers, smelly people, people who look at you... blah, blah, blah ECV's table savers, kids suck, blah, blah... adults get treated bad because... blah, blah, families with kids get treated bad because blah, blah blah.

These threads always spiral into the same 10 things getting hashed over again and againg.

Hows about everyone just stays home and then me and my family can enjoy WDW all to ourselves. That way no one gets hurt feelings.

Suellen...If this thread bothers you so bad, you always have to the option to.....NOT CLICK ON IT.

 

[maxiesmom]

What's that attitude look like? I would just need to see that before I decide if I think someone is acting entitled. My first inclination is to give the benefit of the doubt. I think that's the "world view" thing I was talking about.

I'm saying it is more of a Karma thing. If you get on a bus expecting someone to give you a seat, you are probably not likely to get one.

If I was on a bus and someone started to comment loudly about how they deserved a seat I would probably give them mine if I could, but I would let them know that if they would just ask nicely they would probably get a good response. Besides the fact that you can't judge who can give up a seat, you never know what kind of response you will get if you just ask nicely, instead of being mean and grumpy right away. Another rider may just be lost in their own thoughts, and would help out if asked.

 

[SuperTink]

I'm saying it is more of a Karma thing. If you get on a bus expecting someone to give you a seat, you are probably not likely to get one.

If I was on a bus and someone started to comment loudly about how they deserved a seat I would probably give them mine if I could, but I would let them know that if they would just ask nicely they would probably get a good response. Besides the fact that you can't judge who can give up a seat, you never know what kind of response you will get if you just ask nicely, instead of being mean and grumpy right away. Another rider may just be lost in their own thoughts, and would help out if asked.

Totally agree.

 

[christa112]

I see nothing wrong with holding a table for your family while they are getting the food.

 

[Goofy_Dad_24]

Hey, on most of my trips to the World there are at least 6 of us, so I know how you feel. But it is exceedingly frustrating to see a huge number of tables being held by people who do not even have their food yet, when you are carrying a tray around, looking for a place to sit.

This is easily solved by securing a table before you get in the food line. That is what we always do, and would work for anyone except for a party of one, or an adult with only small children. In those cases, those people should just be aware of this fact and not eat at a CS restaurant at the busiest time of the day. In fact, if you were touring optimally, you would never have this problem because nobody would want to eat lunch at noon or sometime when you are going to have to wait in line for a while.

 

[RickyMouseMom]

Hmmm...interesting insights coming from the poster that started a now closed thread regarding too many strollers in the MK. I guess in certain cases good manners are subjective.

OMG I was going to say the same thing!!!!! I thought it was just me!

 

[Wall-E1]

After reading this thread, my opinion has changed. There is nothing wrong with holding a table and waiting for the rest of my family to arrive.

Furthermore, my family is kind of slow in the morning. I think I'll catch the early morning Magic Kingdom bus and only partially board. That way, the bus will be forced to wait for the rest of my family to finish their morning routine before showing up. The people behind me will understand.

When I am at a counter service restaurant, I will sit at a table and wait for the rest of my family to get their food. After all, I'm only looking out for me first. The people with full trays of food that have no seating will understand.

If I finish eating before my family, I'll get on line at Peter Pan. If I make it to the front before they arrive, I'll simply wait for them. I won't let anybody else board because I am holding a place for them. The people behind me will understand.

While my children go on the Peter Pan ride, I'll line up for the Peter Pan character meet. If I make it to the front of the line before my children arrive, the people waiting behind me will just have to wait. I'm first. Surely, they will understand.

 

[maxiesmom]

This is easily solved by securing a table before you get in the food line. That is what we always do, and would work for anyone except for a party of one, or an adult with only small children. In those cases, those people should just be aware of this fact and not eat at a CS restaurant at the busiest time of the day. In fact, if you were touring optimally, you would never have this problem because nobody would want to eat lunch at noon or sometime when you are going to have to wait in line for a while.

The last trip where we had to deal with this was in May of last year. Pecos Bills was packed, and even though some of us looked for a table, we still had to wait for one to be vacated before snapping it up. I was actually shocked at how busy it was.

And apparently Disney doesn't agree with you, or at least wants to see if it is true that the table holders are the ones causing the problems. Why else the test of waiting for your food before being allowed to grab a table?

 

[JLVermillion]

Several years of visiting the World, we've had the pleasure of experiencing several forms of rudeness. Here are a few of our favorites:
1) Putting towels down on several chairs around the pool at the Poly, and then leaving for several hours;
2) smoking during the Splash Mountain ride;
3) group of several people riding the boat in front of us, laughing and talking extremely loud during Pirates of the Caribbean;
4) people going and holding tables before they get their food at extremely crowded counter service restaurants;
5) people seeing how few clothes they can wear on hot days without getting arrested. I guess their seeing how many tattoos they can expose;
6) of course, the ever present cutting in line.

I'm sure there were many more, but are just a few of our favorites.

Do not forget the hacking cough and sneeze without covering their mouths, hence shall we say misting you. Then of course they do not wash their hands and proceed to touch everything. That is just rude and selfish, nobody wants to catch a cold on holiday.

 

[DISNEYDAD101]

Just have to vent about this rude man boarding the trams at Epcot on Sat. night. we were in our line area waiting to board the trams. I had taken my niece with me and she boarded the tram. somehow this man and two little boys PUSHED me aside (knocking me over was more like it) separating me and my niece and proceeded to sit down between me and my niece and she was sitting on the end of the row not aware that she was suppose to be on the inside. I say, hey wait! I have to sit next to my niece and he says, I have to sit next to my kids. I say, we were here first, and you broke between us. he says he doesn't care! so, I climb my way over them stepping on them and squish my way through almost sitting on his little boy. he grabbed his kid out of the way and moved over then. I DID sit next to my niece after almost getting into it with this man. I'm not a mean woman, but he came pretty close to getting cursed out at in front of everybody that night.

I guess what gets to me is that this man had zero respect for a woman with a young girl. what a shame. he didn't care one bit about anyone else. just himself and getting to his car with HIS kids.

he sure set a fine example for his sons that night. push a woman aside if she gets in your way.

If I would have seen him do that, I would have gotten right up in his face and asked him to apologize. this would have accomplished 2 things:

1) Made him realize the errors of his mistake. (hopefully)
2) Made an example out of him in front of his sons.

I do not tolerate rudeness like that around my daughter in any way shape or form.

If I could not get you at that moment, I would wait for the appropriate time. Then pounce you.

 

[aubriee]

I want to say first off that I agree with everything you have said.

And I think the only time there is an issue is when people stop being grateful when others a courteous to them, and instead expect it. At least that is the vibe I get from some posts. I also think that if you get on a bus with the attitude that someone had better get up and give you their seat, you are probably less likely to get it.

A few years ago I was on a bus that was obviously going to be packed. The bus driver just kept yelling for everyone to move on back. The last couple to get on was a couple of twenty something year olds that literally insisted on squeezing on. In fact, the bus driver told them they had to get behind the yellow line or the bus couldn't move. He finally got everyone squeezed back and they got on the bus. Before the bus could take off, the young man glared around at everyone and yelled out, "my wife's pregnant, which one of you are going to give her a seat?". From his tone of voice it was definitely a command, not a request. For a few seconds everyone was speechless. This man insisted on squeezing onto the bus, they were the very last ones on, and he immediately demanded a seat? My first thought was 'when h-ll freezes over, buddy". Anyway a lady who was probably in her early 50's and who was sitting in one of those first seats up front, finally got up. Would you believe that young man sat down. The lady who had gotten up, immediately got angry and told him off. He said, "fine, she'll sit in my lap. That's what I was going to do anyway." If his wife was pregnant she would have been in her early first trimester. She might have weighed 100lbs soaking wet, was wearing tight jeans, and a very short skin tight t shirt, showing her very flat belly. Alot of people were making comments that they didn't think she was even pregnant. Regardless, what they did was very rude (knowingly squeezing onto a completely full bus, demanding a seat, then the husband sitting down along with the wife on his lap). What was worse was that neither of them even thanked the middle aged lady who gave up her seat. They didn't even offer her a smile. They looked like and acted like 'white trash'.

 

[KellyNY]

I'm saying it is more of a Karma thing. If you get on a bus expecting someone to give you a seat, you are probably not likely to get one.

If I was on a bus and someone started to comment loudly about how they deserved a seat I would probably give them mine if I could, but I would let them know that if they would just ask nicely they would probably get a good response. Besides the fact that you can't judge who can give up a seat, you never know what kind of response you will get if you just ask nicely, instead of being mean and grumpy right away. Another rider may just be lost in their own thoughts, and would help out if asked.

And I will not give my seat if someone will loudly demand it, because they think they deserve it or will start giving looks, no way, you could wait for another bus, no need to pack yourself into bus if you want to sit, sorry but it is dangerous to stand in a moving 60 m/h bus esp. if you holding a baby, use your brain, you can wait another 10 min and sit.

 

[Wall-E1]

A few years ago I was on a bus that was obviously going to be packed. The bus driver just kept yelling for everyone to move on back. The last couple to get on was a couple of twenty something year olds that literally insisted on squeezing on. In fact, the bus driver told them they had to get behind the yellow line or the bus couldn't move. He finally got everyone squeezed back and they got on the bus. Before the bus could take off, the young man glared around at everyone and yelled out, "my wife's pregnant, which one of you are going to give her seat?". From his tone of voice it was definitely a command, not a request. For a few seconds everyone was speechless. This man insisted on squeezing onto the bus, tjey were the very last ones on, and he immediately demanded a seat? My first thought was 'when h-ll freezes over". Anyway a lady who was probably in her early 50's and who was sitting in one of those first seats up front, finally got up. Would you believe that young man sat down. The lady who had gotten up, immediately got angry and told him off. He said, "fine, she'll sit in my lap. That's what I was going to do anyway." If his wife was pregnant she would have been in her early first trimester. She might have weighed 100lbs soaking wet, was wearing skin tight jeans, and a tight t shirt, showing her very flat belly. Alot of people were making comments that they didn't think she was even pregnant. Regardless, what they did was very rude (knowingly squeezing onto a completely full bus, demanding a seat, then the husband sitting down). What was worse was that neither of them even thanked the middle aged lady who gave up her seat. They didn't even offer her a smile.

Ahhh.. the phantom pregnancy scheme. Absolutely brilliant. You can always count on at least one old lady from Kansas to fall for it

 

[staticgirl50]

Here is my strategy:
I am thrilled to be at Disney! So I focus less on what others are doing that may or may not be considered rude, and find a way around them to enjoy my trip! If you dwell on the person that jumped in line, in does not help, I just say oh well and know that I will get on the ride soon enough!

 

[cmaee]

"Will" assumes an event that has not occurred. For all I knew, she was talking about the future. That would include the little girl. Some people don't hold their daughters to the same standard, and I was wondering if that was how she looked at it.

Pardon my wrong use of a verb tense. I spoke it as that is what we do do....as in the present tense. Presently, when we see someone who looks as though they could use a seat, my DH will/would/does get up and let them sit down. If there is more than one person looking as though they need a seat, my boys will/would/do get up and let them have the one they are sharing. When my daughter is old enough to stand up on a bus, she will get up and do the same thing, as will I.

Perhaps you should have stated that you noticed my daughter was still young yet and that it didn't apply to her yet, but if in the future if I would ask her to do the same. Instead of just saying

You won't teach your daughter the same?

The way I read your message was that you assumed I wasn't teaching my daughter it was polite to get up and let others who look like they need a seat to have it. With my daughter only being 2 and that being stated in my signature, I thought it was a bit sarcastic (as well as some of your other comments), being that it is obvious that lesson does not apply to her at this time. Nevertheless, I still said that it was my job to teach my children, not just my boys. So lessons on manners would apply to all of them. I don't see giving up your seat to someone as something chivalrous, but politeness.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I raise my DS8 to have old fashioned values. If all the seats are taken up on a bus and a lady or younger child gets on, he and I get up, stand, and let the lady/ladies sit. It seems like every trip we have to WDW, I usually have to speak outloud to my son, so everyone can hear me. It usually happens when an older woman, or a lady holding a baby gets on the bus, and some perfectly capable guy won't get his lazy butt up for her. I then say to my son rather loudly, "See son, that is not what you do when a lady comes on the bus. You should get up and let her have the seat." Usually about 3-4 guys jump up then.

Personally I have old-fashion values as well (what ever that means) and will gladly give up my seat to whomever could need it

... One reason why people aren't as prone to do this anymore might be the whole PC culture and how everyone is supposed to be viewed as the same now.

I actually got reprimanded at work once because I offered a seat to a few women who came into a meeting and there were no other seats left because that could be construed as sexual harassment

 

[Trinitys Ghost]

I agree on taking on a positive attitude. Heck, you're on a trip to Disney! Yes, at times it can be crowded and people can be rude in a variety of situations, but if it's a little thing, see if it can be overlooked. If it can't (or if it's a big issue), as calmly as you can ensure the situation is rectified or a middle ground is reached. I've been in two situations at Disney in my life, one my grandmother solved, and one I solved, and while it was a momentary hassle, the issues were dealt with and I moved on.

 

[KellyNY]

Ahhh.. the phantom pregnancy scheme. Absolutely brilliant. You can always count on at least one old lady from Kansas to fall for it

Reminded me myself 17 years ago, my tommy did not show up till 9th month, I was flat completely(when you have big hips, stomach is usually smaller), Oh boy how many times someone tried to get me up and nobody believed I was pregnant. The point is while this couple probably pulled everyone because he sat, flat does not mean not pregnant. In fact who knows we all can be pregnant right now, we just do not know yet, oh wait I guess this is where giving seat to women came from, we all potentially pregnant