Some people are so rude!

[Wall-E1]

Reminded me myself 17 years ago, my tommy did not show up till 9th month, I was flat completely(when you have big hips, stomach is usually smaller), Oh boy how many times someone tried to get me up and nobody believed I was pregnant. The point is while this couple probably pulled everyone because he sat, flat does not mean not pregnant. In fact who knows we all can be pregnant right now, we just do not know yet, oh wait I guess this is where giving seat to women came from, we all potentially pregnant

I see the problem in this. That is exactly why Disney needs to invest in sonogram devices for the buses and monorails. this will weed out the schemers from the people that are legitimately knocked up.

Being a man, I have not experienced pregnancy, but a few years ago, I was at Disney, while suffering from a kidney stone. The pain would not be bad if I was either walking or sitting. Standing in one place, though, was very painful. I did have to stand on some of the monorail rides and it hurt, but what can you do? I'm not going to announce my problem to the entire monorail. In that case, I didn't think people were rude. How were they to know? It's impossible to figure out a ranking order on who really needs the seats the most. All we can do, is offer our seats up when it seems appropriate.

 

[39CINDERELLA]

This is why we budget for a rental car or take a taxi

 

[Disneyholic]

I agree. If you have to use the transportation system then don't get on a bus with standing room only if you can't stand! sounds pretty simple to me. If you need a seat wait till a bus comes with a seat, till then pull up a seat (be it a bench or the ground) and wait till the next one comes along.

We've waited for the next bus, gotten our seats and then had people crowd onto that bus and expect us to give up our seats. The bus driver of the original full bus had a fit that we didn't get on his bus and threatened that no other busses would be coming to that stop. Yeah, right, with over 100 people still in line there wouldn't be anymore busses. (and, by the way, I did let the people behind me in line who wanted to get on the full bus get on. I thought they were crazy, because it was packed like sardines, but they wanted to get on so then that was their problem)

If you get on a full bus and noone gives up their seat for you it is your own fault. Plan better next time and wait for the next bus.

 

[KellyNY]

I see the problem in this. That is exactly why Disney needs to invest in sonogram devices for the buses and monorails. this will weed out the schemers from the people that are legitimately knocked up.

Being a man, I have not experienced pregnancy, but a few years ago, I was at Disney, while suffering from a kidney stone. The pain would not be bad if I was either walking or sitting. Standing in one place, though, was very painful. I did have to stand on some of the monorail rides and it hurt, but what can you do? I'm not going to announce my problem to the entire monorail. In that case, I didn't think people were rude. How were they to know? It's impossible to figure out a ranking order on who really needs the seats the most. All we can do, is offer our seats up when it seems appropriate.

I think you can pass for pregnant woman then, passing a kidney stone is a very similar experience, so go ahead, get a sonogram with us, you deserve a seat.

 

[Wall-E1]

I think you can pass for pregnant woman then, passing a kidney stone is a very similar experience, so go ahead, get a sonogram with us, you deserve a seat.

They are similar experiences, but the advantage of having a kidney stone over pregnancy is that after I pass the stone, there is relief. With a pregnancy, after giving birth, there is eighteen years of pain to follow (especially years thirteen - eighteen).

 

[contemporarymom]

OMG I was going to say the same thing!!!!! I thought it was just me!

Nope not just you. I thought it was rather ironic that this poster started a firestorm, because in her opinion anyone who brought a large stroller and children who were to young to remember the trip were rude. Then here she states that it is a disabled person, pregnant woman etc. choice to go to Disney therefore they should just buck up and deal. I guess in their opinion manners are defined as what is convenient to them.

 

[ogreenlee]

Nope not just you. I thought it was rather ironic that this poster started a firestorm, because in her opinion anyone who brought a large stroller and children who were to young to remember the trip were rude. Then here she states that it is a disabled person, pregnant woman etc. choice to go to Disney therefore they should just buck up and deal. I guess in their opinion manners are defined as what is convenient to them.

I've had several issues with that poster's opinions this week. She seems very much of the mindset that it's her way or the dumb way.

 

[Jennasis]

I ran into a problem on our trip last year. DH and I were seated on a bus late at night heading back to our resort. It was a packed house...standing room only. A woman gets on the bus with her DH and a few other people and are standing right in front of us.

DH and I ALWAYS give up our seats to the elderly, the obviously infirm (wearing a brace or a cast or something) and to pregnant women or anyone holding an infant/child. Well, this woman was pregnant...or maybe she was just fat. I don't say that to be rude, rather to point out that sometimes it's hard to even be polite.

If the woman was pregnant, then great...DH and I are heroes. But if she was just "fluffy" (and she wasn't obese, she was just a bit chubby), she may VERY well be offended by the insinuation that we thought she was pregnant.

Now some may say, why not offer her the seat anyway? How would she know why you were offering her the seat unless you said "hey preggo...wanna sit?" Well there was another pregnant woman right behind her who got on at the same time. This one was very obviously pregnant. The guy next to DH offered her the seat before he could and she sat down...Maybe I'm crazy but I know that other woman would've known that we thought she was pregnant too.

 

[mjkacmom]

I raise my DS8 to have old fashioned values. If all the seats are taken up on a bus and a lady or younger child gets on, he and I get up, stand, and let the lady/ladies sit. It seems like every trip we have to WDW, I usually have to speak outloud to my son, so everyone can hear me. It usually happens when an older woman, or a lady holding a baby gets on the bus, and some perfectly capable guy won't get his lazy butt up for her. I then say to my son rather loudly, "See son, that is not what you do when a lady comes on the bus. You should get up and let her have the seat." Usually about 3-4 guys jump up then.

While my children will get up for certain people (disabled, pregnant, person with baby or toddler in his or her arms), I would never tell them to give up their seat for a woman.

 

[FayeW]

It was during a trip up to the World with another friend about eight years ago.

We wanted a good view of the parade, and claimed our spaces at about two. This was at The Magic Kingdom, in the square right when you come in, over where the trees are facing right as you are leaving the park. We had a solid group of people waiting behind the strings, but we left each other enough space. We didn't know each other, that is, we didn't come as a whole group of people, but bonded together as a bunch of strangers.

Of course as parade time came by people wanted to squeeze in between us. We stood firm and said "Where were you an hour earlier?" Most people just walked away. Some wanted to make an issue of it. One woman tried to guilt us into letting her and her stroller in by insinuating that we were racist. One guy looked like he wanted to fight about it.

We just stood together. Asking people where they were an hour earlier got the message across to all but a few boneheads.

If any boneheads are reading, please learn the lesson.

EJKorvette mka Evan

I hate to break it to you, but showing up an hour early isn't a requirement to being able to see the parades. I think the boneheads are the ones who sit around for hours doing nothing waiting for a parade!

You choosing to wait in the heat for an hour does not entitle you or your companions to more space than you require!

We cuddled up to a trash can at one parade because the very entitled couple who showed up probably an hour or two early seemed to think they required 6 feet of blanket space for the two of them, dead center in the middle of the sidewalk (nobody could sit in front or behind them). They could have easily and comfortably accomodated 3 other adults in their space, but they chose to spread out their knapsacks, etc, a couple of feet in either direction.

We arrived 10 mins before the parade, saw a small space on the corner beside the trash receptacle that could accomodate us, and enjoyed Spectro. We had enough space for the 4 of us, with DH and I standing and the kids sitting in front of us, but I found it extremely rude of them to take up so much space simply because they "claimed" it hours ahead of time.

 

[hookedonears]

I agree with Wall-E1. I think on our next trip, I'll be the only one that waits in line for all of the rides and at the right moment, I'll let my family of 8 cut in line with me. There's no reason that they should wait in line like everyone else. They should be able to go and get a snack, or ride less crowded rides and then come get in line at the last moment. I think everyone should do that.

 

[Disneyholic]

Pure anarchy!!!!

 

[W.E.D.]

When the restaurant is crowded, yes it's rude. Obviously, the shoe fits here. Your party gets their food, and then finds a table. That's why Disney is starting to crack down now on the practice, and not allowing people to do this.

Totally disagree with this! Don't know why they'd crack down on it. I've done it at every TS restaurant I go to, not just at WDW. My family has always done it. Everyone I know does this. You send someone to grab a table while you order. It also cuts down on the number of folks standing in the line to order. I could understand if someone is holding a table for a 1/2 hour or something, but not the 5-10 min. it takes to order and get your food.

 

[Wall-E1]

pure anarchy!!!!

Attica! Attica! Attica!

 

[hookedonears]

Oh, no no no, there is no a little bit cheating. If you think you can hold a table for 5-10 minutes, you can hold it all day if you want. Why should you even have to eat. Why not just use the TS restaurants as a place to rest and get out of the heat when it's packed. Why not just rest for an hour, or so while people with trays are standing with their kids eating their lunch. Obviously, many in this discussion only use manners when it's conveniant.

 

[chuckml]

I hate to break it to you, but showing up an hour early isn't a requirement to being able to see the parades. I think the boneheads are the ones who sit around for hours doing nothing waiting for a parade!

You choosing to wait in the heat for an hour does not entitle you or your companions to more space than you require!

We cuddled up to a trash can at one parade because the very entitled couple who showed up probably an hour or two early seemed to think they required 6 feet of blanket space for the two of them, dead center in the middle of the sidewalk (nobody could sit in front or behind them). They could have easily and comfortably accomodated 3 other adults in their space, but they chose to spread out their knapsacks, etc, a couple of feet in either direction.

We arrived 10 mins before the parade, saw a small space on the corner beside the trash receptacle that could accomodate us, and enjoyed Spectro. We had enough space for the 4 of us, with DH and I standing and the kids sitting in front of us, but I found it extremely rude of them to take up so much space simply because they "claimed" it hours ahead of time.

So because YOU didn't want to wait, THEY should have to move? Sounds pretty self important to me. They were there first, it's their spot. While you may have felt there was plenty of room for your late arriving family to squeeze in, the people that got there BEFORE you may have felt differently. Is arriving an hour ahead of time a requirement to watch a parade? Absolutely not. But, if you want to choose the place where you watch it from, get there in time to do so, and don't expect someone who has been there to automatically move for you because your touring time is more important than theirs.

 

[Wall-E1]

Oh, no no no, there is no a little bit cheating. If you think you can hold a table for 5-10 minutes, you can hold it all day if you want. Why should you even have to eat. Why not just use the TS restaurants as a place to rest and get out of the heat when it's packed. Why not just rest for an hour, or so while people with trays are standing with their kids eating their lunch. Obviously, many in this discussion only use manners when it's conveniant.

Personally, I have poker night with the boys at Pecos Bill Cafe in Adventureland every Friday night. We put a couple of the tables together and play for hours. We don't get nothin' but water. I don't see what the problem is. You diners dun shoulda staked your place at a table early in the afternoon, had you wanted a table for dinner. Not being rude or anything, but duh!

 

[W.E.D.]

Obviously, many in this thread are overly judgmental. It makes me happy that a majority of folks on this site make up only a minority of the folks I see at WDW.
How free you all are with the slams when you don't have to face someone.
For you perfect folks on here, remember what they say about people who live in glass houses.

 

[FayeW]

So because YOU didn't want to wait, THEY should have to move? Sounds pretty self important to me. They were there first, it's their spot. While you may have felt there was plenty of room for your late arriving family to squeeze in, the people that got there BEFORE you may have felt differently. Is arriving an hour ahead of time a requirement to watch a parade? Absolutely not. But, if you want to choose the place where you watch it from, get there in time to do so, and don't expect someone who has been there to automatically move for you because your touring time is more important than theirs.

Not at all. I did not say anywhere in my post that I asked, indicated, or expected them to move. As a matter of fact, I specifically said that we had enough space for the 4 of us! We did not infringe on "their" space in any way, shape, or form. I guess they just didn't want to sit that close to the trash can and thought by spreading out like they did, nobody else would, either.

I found it rude that two people felt the need to spread out and take up so much space. I am sure two more families could have joined them comfortably. They had at least 6 feet of blanket and then a foot or two on either side with knapsacks and shopping bags. The length of time they waited was irrelevant...it was still rude!

If I show up 3 hours early should I be able to claim 20 feet of sidewalk frontage for my family of 4, just because I am there early enough to do it?

 

[JPN4265]

Wait, is this really considered rude? I always have part of my party go get a table while others wait in line for food. I thought it was just being strategic.

I don't consider it rude, but Disney is going try something new at some of the walk ups. When you enter, they will give you a menu, when you get your food, someone will then escort you to a table. They hope to eliminate the saving of the table and chairs. Be interesting to see how this works.