Shrek vs. Atlantis: Analysis

[Planogirl]

But I do want Atlantis to do well. I just want Shrek to do better or at least the same business.

I don't believe that Disney will decide to quit doing "Disney" products if Shrek does well. Disney has long been the leader in the animated field and I am hopeful that any threat to that will at least cause Disney to take a long hard look at its product. I don't think that they will try to make a Shrek clone because Disney has also always seen itself as an innovator. Maybe a bit of innovation could actually come out of this company as a result but if they are still laying off animators, I guess that this is just a foolish dream.

By the way, I don't consider Shrek the best animated movie ever made. Far from it. I liked it and consider it something different which is good to me. Shrek doesn't copy Disney and that may be one reason for the movie's success. As far as people being critical of it, I also heard tons of criticism of Titanic but of course the film makers ended up laughing all the way to the bank. And making money is what really matters to the movie studios isn't it?

 

[HBK]

The lords have spoken...

With that said, this is not the appropriate place to vent about whatever little annoyance you may have perceived. I too did not see anything inflammatory in DisDuck's comments. And after reading DisDucks's following posts I'm fairly confident there was no ill intent.

Fine. He and his daughters, and their friends haven't seen Shrek, but they all plan to. I stand corrected.

Back to the main topic of this post, which was will Shrek pour water onto Atlantis?

I don't think that they will try to make a Shrek clone because Disney has also always seen itself as an innovator.

Unfortunatly, Disney seems to have long since abandoned innovation. They seem to be too content to lean on outside sources....using just enough resources to get by.

I personally hope Shrek not only defeats Pearl (which it has), I hope it defeats Atlantis (which it probably will), and I hope it tops Lion King's records (I don't know, but it's the first movie in a long time which has a shot).

Why do I want Shrek to do so well? Do I want to see Disney fold? Do I hate Disney?

No. I want to see Ei$ner get some of his own medicine. I'm sick of the company doing second rate projects because "noone else is doing anything more". I don't want the animation industry to disappear into stupid sequels of movies which ruin the "happily ever after" ending the first one had. I'm sick of the cutbacks of quality I've become accustomed to being explained as the needs of the company to survive.

There are more and more hotel rooms, with less and less for these people to do....yet prices are as high as ever.

Employees are being let go left and right, but they go and hire Tiger Woods to do something for $50 Million Dollars.

It's an outrage....and I hope Shrek destory's any of Disney's movies this year. It serves them right.

Animators are expensive and that is at this point in time Katzenberg's fault (I'm sure he'll be hurt by it eventually, people who do that kind of salary wars usually are)

It's funny....according to the article Sara linked to, Shrek only cost Dreamworks $60 million to make. It sure doesn't seem like Katzenberg is having financial trouble making profitable, successfull animated movies (CGI no less).

 

[DisDuck]

gary, my oldest son is Hills class of 93 while my middle others are Valley class of 99 and class of 2003. Been living here since 1982. Its a Small World After All.

 

[Buzz2001]

Shrek was a good movie.

Here is a list of all-time movies adjusted to todays movie prices. Lets see how many of dreamworks animated movies are on the list.

I think you'll be surprised as to what Disney movie tops the list

http://movieboxoffice.about.com/mov....the-movie-times.com/thrsdir/Top10everad.html

 

[YoHo]

Buzz2001, are you sure that site is accurate? I have never ever seen The Jungle book out rank Snow White, and I've seen probably 20 or so of these reports. Other then that, the first 2 have always been those two and I think Snow Whitewas always 3rd.

Actually, running through some calculations, I'm almost positive that this site is doing its math wrong.

That not withstanding, I love looking at ajusted grosses, because it tells you how many people actually went to see the movie, which is more important when ranking based on popularity.

 

[Buzz2001]

YoHo, I found it while searching for a site with this weekends box office totals. You could be correct, I'm not sure. I just thought it was interesting.

 

[Carl]

I don't watch many cartoons, so I'm no expert. But, I did enjoy A Bug's Life. I have only seen the promos for the two cartoons being discussed. Based ONLY on those, I'd prefer Shrek over Atlantis, for purely technological reasons. The realism of Shrek is closer to Bug's Life than is Atlantis. You know what I mean, more 3-D looking. I also thought, again only from promos, that the humor and characters were more interesting. In conclusion, I won't buy either, but will probably look at Shrek when it comes on a non-PPV station.
PS. I DID buy the Bug's Life DVD.