Interests in staying at a DLR Disney Hotel dropping...

[disneychrista]

I'm talking about hotels right across the road from the Pixar Peir/Disneyland hotel.

You can normally get a normal room for under 150 and even if they charge you for parking...its not 45 bucks like at the resort.

Once again wont be for everyone but if you just need a bed, I've never had an issue with the area its lean and safe and they just added Finney's Crafthouse to in the area and there is also a Dennys there for cheaper food options then at the DTD if you need food...plus some other smaller restaurants in mini malls around


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I am not overly picky about my hotel room, as you said it is just a bed (and a shower). But walking distance is important to me, which is why I generally stay at Desert Inn & Suites.

 

[JerrodDragon89]

I am not overly picky about my hotel room, as you said it is just a bed (and a shower). But walking distance is important to me, which is why I generally stay at Desert Inn & Suites.

Its for everyone its different

For me, I'm fine with 3 days of 30 thousand steps + and the only way I can afford to go as much as I can, but just pointing out that many think 400 dollars is cheap for a hotel...but you can get a room for just a lot less if you can walk

Plus it helps keep you in a little shape and walk off the food/drink at the resort, lol

 

[irlandaise]

You can easily get motel rooms for under 150 bucks around the resort

I'm talking about hotels right across the road from the Pixar Peir/Disneyland hotel.

Most people wouldn't consider south of Katella and west of Disneyland Drive to be "around the resort." That's a loooong way to the Esplanade.

 

[JerrodDragon89]

Most people wouldn't consider south of Katella and west of Disneyland Drive to be "around the resort." That's a loooong way to the Esplanade.

The Pixar Peir hotel is not much closer, like maybe.....maybe 2,000 extra steps and same with the Disneyland hotel

To each their own and cool for people who have the extra cash to just spend it for a hotel to save a few thousand steps

Also the Monorail is on this side....so yeah you can save a good amount of steps with that if you need

Last note walking is great for you, like one of the best things you can do and I've done 3 days of over 30.000 steps and I'm 36 and not and not an athlete.

 

[disneychrista]

Its for everyone its different

For me, I'm fine with 3 days of 30 thousand steps + and the only way I can afford to go as much as I can, but just pointing out that many think 400 dollars is cheap for a hotel...but you can get a room for just a lot less if you can walk

Plus it helps keep you in a little shape and walk off the food/drink at the resort, lol

18 years ago we stayed at the Days Inn on the corner of Ball & Harbor and walked with no problem. Now I physically can't. But as it applies to this thread. Hotels in this area are not that much farther than Pixar Pier. So the $300/night savings is HUGE and could be the difference between making a trip and not.

 

[gottalovepluto]

But also people on here are still booking, so like I said. I don't think its coming back as long as people are willing to pay, who cares what a few fans online say...

You missed the entire point of this specific post, OP is saying a noticeably amount of people aren't willing to pay when it comes to actually plopping the dough down. OP posted that something has noticeably shifted specific to this year and Disneyland resort bookings. They did not post as a whiny fan like the rest of us but as someone (who if you trust) works in the travel industry, actively booking Disney and has a network of others who do as well. (Plenty of people actually do use TAs to book Disneyland.) Now, their speculation EE comes back is just industry speculation obvs, but their observations on what is and isn't actually being booked is rather interesting.

 

[AstroBlasters]

There is such a big difference between people who “just need a place to lay their head” and people who are coming down for 3-6 nights and treating it as a vacation OR are having a a 1-2 night special occasion.

Disney probably doesn’t want a lot of the former because they spend less on property.

 

[disneychrista]

There is such a big difference between people who “just need a place to lay their head” and people who are coming down for 3-6 nights and treating it as a vacation OR are having a a 1-2 night special occasion.

Disney probably doesn’t want a lot of the former because they spend less on property.

I definitely don't disagree that Disney wants people who they feel will spend more money. Case in point restricting MK's in favor of single day & multi-day passes. Trips to Disneyland and other locations ARE vacation for me but the hotel is still just a place to sleep & shower, as I am enjoying the parks or whatever other location I am at. I don't spend a lot of time in my room, regardless of what that room is.

 

[irlandaise]

The Pixar Peir hotel is not much closer, like maybe.....maybe 2,000 extra steps and same with the Disneyland hotel

 

[JerrodDragon89]

You missed the entire point of this specific post, OP is saying a noticeably amount of people aren't willing to pay when it comes to actually plopping the dough down. OP posted that something has noticeably shifted specific to this year and Disneyland resort bookings. They did not post as a whiny fan like the rest of us but as someone (who if you trust) works in the travel industry, actively booking Disney and has a network of others who do as well. (Plenty of people actually do use TAs to book Disneyland.) Now, their speculation EE comes back is just industry speculation obvs, but their observations on what is and isn't actually being booked is rather interesting.

I mean we don't have numbers

Not saying the OP is wrong but can anyone prove it?

People on here have a Bias, they want Disney to be old Disney and do everything like it used to be and until we see data saying its down then I'll wait and see but in my experience Disney fans are mostly talk and or another sucker will take your place if your done with the magic someone else will fill those shoes
Its also January, not even a month into the change, so for me the data/trends are not set yet.

Also Like I said before even if room rates go Down, Disney will find a way to make it work for them. By giving the cleaning staff less hours, and hiring new people at lower wages because "its not as much work as it used to be since we have less guests"

Disneyland used to pay enough for the Janitors and what not could buy houses, so they have evolved over the years to know how to make this work

I mean people still go to the parks after we lost FREE fast pass and now we have to reserve when we go.....Disney fans just adapt because of Nostalgia and the fact that no other park is as full of theming and things to do (I love Universal but its barley a one day park when no events are happening)

 

[twodogs]

That is just strange to me. So you could book a room and not know if you will have a single King or 2 Queens/doubles? What if I need two beds?

Yes. And I complain about it on every single survey they send me. Obviously they are not reading my survey responses!!!!

 

[eticketplease]

I mean we don't have numbers

Not saying the OP is wrong but can anyone prove it?

People on here have a Bias, they want Disney to be old Disney and do everything like it used to be and until we see data saying its down then I'll wait and see but in my experience Disney fans are mostly talk and or another sucker will take your place if your done with the magic someone else will fill those shoes
Its also January, not even a month into the change, so for me the data/trends are not set yet.

Also Like I said before even if room rates go Down, Disney will find a way to make it work for them. By giving the cleaning staff less hours, and hiring new people at lower wages because "its not as much work as it used to be since we have less guests"

Disneyland used to pay enough for the Janitors and what not could buy houses, so they have evolved over the years to know how to make this work

I mean people still go to the parks after we lost FREE fast pass and now we have to reserve when we go.....Disney fans just adapt because of Nostalgia and the fact that no other park is as full of theming and things to do (I love Universal but its barley a one day park when no events are happening)

Can you prove it? Housekeeping is part of a union so the wages are pretty much set in stone.

 

[eticketplease]

That's exactly when they lost me.

Fond memories of being in the park almost alone for an hour. Now those were the days

 

[irlandaise]

Can you prove it? Housekeeping is part of a union so the wages are pretty much set in stone.

I was just going to say the same thing. DLR housekeeping staff are in SEIU. Disney can't just save costs "by giving the cleaning staff less hours, and hiring new people at lower wages."

 

[JerrodDragon89]

Can you prove it? Housekeeping is part of a union so the wages are pretty much set in stone.

Then they stop hiring new people, someone gets let go and they have less staff and it saves them then because if 1/5 of the rooms are being booked less then you don't need more people and onboarding people cost money too

If you think Disney is going to be losing money by cutting this perk, I think many here forget how much money they are now saving by not having 100's of employees in the park early (if not 1000,'s of CM)

But once to me I see the bias that people here want this move on Disney to fail over the reality that they have take many benefits before and the parks are doing just fine. In fact last year for the parks it was one if not the most profitable year ever

I'm just saying lets wait and see before we say this is in anyway going to backfire on Disney they have been running parks for 70 years and doubt they would do this without tons of data

 

[VandVsmama]

Fond memories of being in the park almost alone for an hour. Now those were the days

I agree! I miss the days when you could get 1 'Magic Morning' entry to DL on Tues, Thurs, or Sat if you had a 3+ day park hopper ticket. Our family took advantage of that a lot. And Magic Morning was 1 hour before reg. park entry, not 30 min. We'd easily get through 6 rides in Fantasyland before the regular park opening happened. It was awesome.

I also miss the days of the $10/day per person 'Max Pass' (aka introductory paid Fast Pass/Lightning Lane).

 

[DizMe]

I'm in a different position than most in that I almost always go during a Disney hotel sale period and I am usually splitting the cost with at least one other person. Also, at one point my daughter was a CM and got me a 50% hotel discount. Those 2 things made it pretty reasonable.

My husband is also supportive (he pays for my MK) which is largely because he's a great guy. But also, I think, out of...well, let's not say guilt, let's use the word empathy... because he spends liberally on his favorite activity (golf).

I like to stay on site because it's not as much of a hardship for me as it would be for a family, and I spend a lot more time in/at the hotel than most. I go to the parks often enough that it's not so much about rides but experiences, and a big part of that is my hotel. I like to stroll through DTD. I like to people watch. I like to visit the other DLR hotels. I don't spend much on anything else so I guess it's my not-so-guilty pleasure.

And finally, I'm at an age that makes it much less interesting to me to cross streets and battle traffic.

 

[eticketplease]

Then they stop hiring new people, someone gets let go and they have less staff and it saves them then because if 1/5 of the rooms are being booked less then you don't need more people and onboarding people cost money too

If you think Disney is going to be losing money by cutting this perk, I think many here forget how much money they are now saving by not having 100's of employees in the park early (if not 1000,'s of CM)

But once to me I see the bias that people here want this move on Disney to fail over the reality that they have take many benefits before and the parks are doing just fine. In fact last year for the parks it was one if not the most profitable year ever

I'm just saying lets wait and see before we say this is in anyway going to backfire on Disney they have been running parks for 70 years and doubt they would do this without tons of data

I replied to you about cutting wages nothing about whether or not Disney was going to lose money by cutting the perk. Apparently highlighting things in bold is not good enough?

How about your Janitor quote? Do you realize the SO CAL Housing market is insane? How much would you like Disney to pay Janitors to be able to afford a house?

Disneyland used to pay enough for the Janitors and what not could buy houses

 

[gottalovepluto]

I agree! I miss the days when you could get 1 'Magic Morning' entry to DL on Tues, Thurs, or Sat if you had a 3+ day park hopper ticket. Our family took advantage of that a lot. And Magic Morning was 1 hour before reg. park entry, not 30 min. We'd easily get through 6 rides in Fantasyland before the regular park opening happened. It was awesome.

I also miss the days of the $10/day per person 'Max Pass' (aka introductory paid Fast Pass/Lightning Lane).

The 1 hr really helped with security situation, even if stuck for 20 mins at security you still had enough time to feel like you used your early entry.

 

[VicgirlBC]

I have been to Disneyland a number of times and on our most recent trip chose to stay 6 nights at the Grand Californian. This was our first time staying on property and the choice to do so was largely driven by proximately to the parks, access to early entry and being in the bubble. While the lobby is gorgeous, and the pool area lovely, I would not call this hotel luxurious. I found the customer service to be only average and the food quality at Hearthstone and Craftman’s to be quite poor compared to our expectations. In fact we had an absolutely awful experience at Hearthstone.

We did take advantage of early entry but felt the process to line up super early to access Downtown Disney and then line up in a non-dedicated turnstile not very magical. For the price we paid to stay, I would have expected much more from a luxury property.

The things I enjoyed about the hotel (walking through the lobby, shops and character brunch) are things I can do without being a hotel guest.

The only thing that really stood out to me was the opportunity to do yoga in Redwood Creek as a hotel guest. This was an exceptional experience, made even more special by the absolutely lovely instructor.

For our next trip we are staying offsite for a fraction of the cost.

If we do decide to stay on property again we will try the Disneyland Hotel, but only if the price is right. Otherwise there are so many other lovely options very close (I’m thinking Westin, Courtyard Marriott Themepark Entrance, HoJo, Candycane Inn).

I am glad I had the opportunity to stay at the Grand Californian because it taught me that staying on site does not make the trip any more magical than staying offsite. Losing early entry just adds to that feeling.