Rumor has it that Susan Atkins is dying

[yeartolate]

If you don't put a space between the La and the Bianca the first five letters together spell the correct anatomical name of a female body part.

Off topic, but a funny. My mom posted on a wesite that did not allow her to type "cocker spaniel" . She and her fellow board members just called them "pecker spaniels" It was especially funny because I had to explain to my mother why "cocker" was filtered. Even funnier since most of her board were older folks (most with chronic severe lung disease to boot).

But who knows, they were probably just troublemakers.

 

[MrsPete]

I don't care what anyone thinks, but I hope she dies a slow painful death. What goes around comes around I say .

I don't think this is in any way "what goes around" coming back to her. When did these murders happen? Late 60s? Early 70s? She's had years and years of life -- even if she hasn't had freedom.

I think she's getting waaaay more than she deserves, and I see no equality whatsoever!

 

[MrsPete]

I read page 1 of comments. Doesn't change a thing about how I feel. I still think she should rot in prison till she dies. She deserves nothing more, no matter how "good" she turned out after 30+ years in prison.

I think she should be allowed out of prison when her victims are allowed out of death -- oh, wait, that can't happen. Oops, then she'll just have to stay in prison, the fate she EARNED for herself.

 

[wdw4us2]

I read page 1 of comments. Doesn't change a thing about how I feel. I still think she should rot in prison till she dies. She deserves nothing more, no matter how "good" she turned out after 30+ years in prison.
I agree.

I agree completely. I just posted the link for the comments because some of the previous posts indicated that those of us who feel she shouldn't be released were just being heartless.

I went through all the comments and they were running about 40-1 in favor of her Atkins remaining incarcerated. It was interesting to read comments from people who lived in LA and remembered what it was like in the aftermath of the crimes.

 

[Deb in IA]

I just saw the interview that she did with Diane Sawyer a few years ago. She is claiming that she was "insane" back then, when she committed the murders.

And I think she should not be released either. Remorse has nothing to do with it. If that were the case, I'll bet most everyone is prison is remorseful.

And neither does having a terminal illness matter. She can die in prison just as well as she can die at home.

 

[polineedyan]

She's the reason people shouldnt take LSD..

 

[yeartolate]

And neither does having a terminal illness matter. She can die in prison just as well as she can die at home.

Absolutely. Why would terminal illness be different than being on death row? Do we give death row inmates special privleges because they will die soon?

That being said. If she needs pain control for her teminal illness, thatis fine by me. I see no reason to torture her.

 

[TDC Nala]

I don't think this is in any way "what goes around" coming back to her. When did these murders happen? Late 60s? Early 70s? She's had years and years of life -- even if she hasn't had freedom.

Susan Atkins was convicted of 7 murders (5 at Sharon Tate's residence, 2 at the La Biancas') and pleaded guilty to one other (Gary Hinman). These murders all took place in July and August 1969.

 

[N.Bailey]

I just saw the interview that she did with Diane Sawyer a few years ago. She is claiming that she was "insane" back then, when she committed the murders.

And I think she should not be released either. Remorse has nothing to do with it. If that were the case, I'll bet most everyone is prison is remorseful.

And neither does having a terminal illness matter. She can die in prison just as well as she can die at home.

I concur that she should NEVER be released. Did she give her victims any mercy? Why in the heck does she feel she deserves it? She should have been executed decades ago. Why in the world should she be set free to die?

Don't worry though, she's not remorseful at all. In a letter that she wrote in Jan. '07 she said that she doesn't regret anything she's ever done. This letter was read during her last parole hearing (which again, was denied). I don't know about you, but I've done LOTS of things I've regretted, and I never murdered anyone.

To address another poster upthread, I could live just fine if she's not given meds to control the pain she may be experiencing now. I'd imagine those knives sliding in and out of a body hurt pretty bad as well, but they weren't given anything to dull the pain.

 

[buybuybest]

Wow, maybe you guys aren't Christian which is cool as I believe everyone should practice their beliefs. I happen to be though and I have to object. Saying someone should die a painful death, even if they are a horrible person, isn't a good thing. I think that it's up to God what to do. He says the rain falls on the just and the unjust just the same. Someone who is wonderful could get brain cancer too and by your definition at the beginning of the thread, they are getting what they deserve. I happen to have a mother who always has a kind word for everyone and is always helping out in anyway she can and she has systemic lupus.
Let's play devils advocate here, even if it wasn't about karma, wishing someone else harm doesn't mean that our hearts are in the right place. That seems to be a negative thing to do.

I realize that she did something horrid, but to wish someone harm? I'm sorry I just can't agreewith that.

 

[sgtdisney]

Someone who is wonderful could get brain cancer too and by your definition at the beginning of the thread, they are getting what they deserve.

It has been a while since I read the beginning of this thread, but I don't recall anyone here saying that a wonderful person who has brain cancer deserves it. Personally I don't think Susan Atkins deserved to get brain cancer, because she should have been dead long ago. According to the courts when she was convicted, she didn't deserve to live long enough to grow old.

Susan Atkins is a butcher, a cold calculating murderer who tortured people as she killed them. She took great pleasure in stabbing a woman to death who was 8 1/2 months pregnant. That is about as low as you can get. She laughed as Tex Watson slashed this actresses face, who at the time was thought to be one of the most beautiful women in Hollywood, before they killed her. Why, to torture her of course. Not to mention what they did to Gary Hinman.

The crimes were despicable, carried out by evil, dispicable people, who should have been executed over 30 years ago. Dear sweet Sadie Mae Glutz (as Manson called her) deserves all the pity that she gave her victims back in the summer of 69.

 

[Carly_Roach]

The only reason to keep her in jail now is revenge. She's not a danger to society and she's lost the part of her life that matters to years in prison. People here are behaving as though Susan Atkins killed a member of their family when, in reality, the only personal knowledge they have of her is a TV movie or a book they read.

This is a case where rabid revenge and a runaway addiction to the endorphins released by expressing feelings of righteous indignation and outrage will wind up costing the taxpayers of Califonia thousands of dollars for Susan Atkins' health care. That's on top of the over $30K a year that it's costing them for her regular prison maintenance. Allowing her to leave prison will shift that burden from the taxpayers to her husband's private insurance.

So many people have crowed that God will judge her and there's a hot spot reserved for her in Hell. Fine...then why don't you let God take care of it? Hell will be there whether she finishes her life inside prison or outside prison. Unless, of course, God decides that she's been through enough Hell and deserves redemption. Is that what y'all are afraid of?

In which case another question comes to mind: who are we to question God?

 

[In a hurry]

The only reason to keep her in jail now is revenge.

If she is serving her sentence, it isn't revenge, but the consequence of her behavior. There are consequences that we all suffer in life due to our choices, this is hers. If she is lonely, and in pain, that is between her (due to her actions), and God.

People take it personally, because people are affected in their own worlds by violence. My cousin was killed, and then raped. He got 13 years, because they convinced the jury that she was a slut. My anger over the ridiculousness of that conviction affects my feelings about ALL convictions. That is how people think.

Sure it would be cheaper to kick all of the old/sick prisoners out. Then most would still be a burden upon the taxpayers. And, it would make a mockery out of those who were victims, and those who sought justice for the victims. My opinion, anyway.

 

[sgtdisney]

The only reason to keep her in jail now is revenge. She's not a danger to society and she's lost the part of her life that matters to years in prison. People here are behaving as though Susan Atkins killed a member of their family when, in reality, the only personal knowledge they have of her is a TV movie or a book they read.

You call it revenge. I call it justice. She may have lost the part of her life that matters, her victims lost all their lives, including one very healthy near term baby that died inside his mother's womb. Susan Atkins didn't kill a member of my immediate amily, but she was involved in killing 6 human beings. That is enough for me.

This is a case where rabid revenge and a runaway addiction to the endorphins released by expressing feelings of righteous indignation and outrage will wind up costing the taxpayers of Califonia thousands of dollars for Susan Atkins' health care. That's on top of the over $30K a year that it's costing them for her regular prison maintenance. Allowing her to leave prison will shift that burden from the taxpayers to her husband's private insurance.

California could have executed her over 30 years ago. Think of the savings to the taxpayers!!! And if justice had been fully served she would never have been allowed to marry, you know like she denied Steve Parent who had all his life ahead of him as well.

So many people have crowed that God will judge her and there's a hot spot reserved for her in Hell. Fine...then why don't you let God take care of it? Hell will be there whether she finishes her life inside prison or outside prison. Unless, of course, God decides that she's been through enough Hell and deserves redemption. Is that what y'all are afraid of?

In which case another question comes to mind: who are we to question God?

God will take care of it, you are right. Maybe he has already stepped in?

 

[CPT Tripss]

The only reason to keep her in jail now is revenge. She's not a danger to society and she's lost the part of her life that matters to years in prison. People here are behaving as though Susan Atkins killed a member of their family when, in reality, the only personal knowledge they have of her is a TV movie or a book they read.

This is a case where rabid revenge and a runaway addiction to the endorphins released by expressing feelings of righteous indignation and outrage will wind up costing the taxpayers of Califonia thousands of dollars for Susan Atkins' health care. That's on top of the over $30K a year that it's costing them for her regular prison maintenance. Allowing her to leave prison will shift that burden from the taxpayers to her husband's private insurance.

So many people have crowed that God will judge her and there's a hot spot reserved for her in Hell. Fine...then why don't you let God take care of it? Hell will be there whether she finishes her life inside prison or outside prison. Unless, of course, God decides that she's been through enough Hell and deserves redemption. Is that what y'all are afraid of?

In which case another question comes to mind: who are we to question God?

Atkins is serving her sentence . . . I can't see making the whole "mercy" request an economic arguement.

OP hasn't weighed in on this revival. Has her health deteriorated? Anyone know?

 

[Ohiodislover]

Atkins is serving her sentence . . . I can't see making the whole "mercy" request an economic arguement.

OP hasn't weighed in on this revival. Has her health deteriorated? Anyone know?

Jenny was banned last month. She dared to ask a question

 

[CPT Tripss]

Jenny was banned last month. She dared to ask a question

oops

 

[LisaB]

Jenny was banned last month. She dared to ask a question

That is so sad that they banned her,I was just thinking about her today. She was the go to person on Judaism She will be missed

 

[honeymom]

I'm not sure that she thinks she deserves the release so much as her family is asking for the release. And, from what I understand it is to move her from prison into a hospital.

Personally though, I do agree that I would like to see her kept in prison. If ever there was a crime that deserved the death penalty or life in prison it was her crimes. She was not just some innocent bystander at these crimes. She was a knife wielding murderer.

The only reason that I could see the release being granted is if the prison is unable to treat her properly or it would save taxpayers the expense of her treatment. I don't think all of the treatment in the world will save her from how her condition is being described.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

Anyone who is sentenced to a prison term could potentially DIE of something in prison, especially if they get so many years (or life without parole) that the chances are extremely slim that they'd be released before dying. So, should everyone in prison be let out if they become ill and it looks like they're going to die?