Rumor about “modified experiences” when Disney reopens (read 1st post for potential modifications being considered)

[lilypgirl]

I don't know I just feel like when Disney does finally open mask will be optional . I will be honest I only wear one when I am told I have to like at Target and Costco and take it off as soon as I step back outside of the store.

 

[yulilin3]

Am I super late in noticing the plastic gloves given during the video on Shanghai? I just saw that now, very smart

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I agree. It's the youngest in my home that is doing the very best with the entire situation, going as far as to say that he forgets that's why he's home sometimes. He views the whole thing as some sort of unusual vacation.

goes to show that kids are different ... my youngest has been a nightmare through this whole thing

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Am I super late in noticing the plastic gloves given during the video on Shanghai? I just saw that now, very smart

do you mean when they were going to ride Buzz? I noticed that too and is an interesting way to handle things I wonder if they could do something similar for 3D glasses ... or would that even be a way to help with omnimovers which might be challenging to fully disinfect while in motion between rides

 

[Oldnewfan]

Social advantage only on the gloves. Says "I care about you". Without proper training on removal and follow-up-washing, can make things worse. Spreads more on surfaces and a false sense of security with some folks thinking that handwashing isnt needed. Primary reason CDC hasnt recommendly for daily tasks. If they hand out gloves they need to train those in its proper use, removal and only for tasks such as cleaning up garbage, etc...

 

[SierraT]

Hate to admit this but I bought a large box of disposable plastic gloves on Amazon, mainly to pacify one of my kids (probably won’t even use them at this point). I was always the one sanitizing their hands before and after rides though so, with the exception of masks, we are pretty used to washing our hands and won’t be much of a change. I really hope Disney leaves the portable sinks out.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Don’t get me wrong - I am pro mask in public. I just don’t like them. We’ll see how it shakes out.

I don't think anyone *wants* to wear masks or likes do so ... well, other than the Dread Pirate Roberts

 

[MickeyWaffles]

I don't think anyone *wants* to wear masks or likes do so ... well, other than the Dread Pirate Roberts

Haha, fair enough. But there are people who willing to go on a vacation to WDW even if they have to wear a mask, and those that won’t. Mask tolerance level varies greatly. No one likes them, but some dislike them less

 

[WallEFan00]

https://www.disneyfoodblog.com/2020...Y0vmqwhv6vksvRJX_z04Clg3QhIA1mEaiG-n8oTxw-bMQ
See clarification was needed! I wasn't being difficult hahaha!!

They still didn't clarify, though. Are there exceptions for people who can't medically tolerate a face covering? Are you going to step on people's HIPAA rights and ask what their condition is? Will you ban people from entering the stores? What are the consequences of non-compliance? Are kids included? Is there an age-limit? Do you have to wear it outside or just while indoors? Do you have to still social distance if you are wearing a mask? They haven't clarified anything.

 

[WallEFan00]

And what about DVC owners

There are nearly 36.000 rooms onsite I think your figures are a bit skewed, if they were half full with sat

There are nearly 36000 onsite rooms 4 to room at 50% occupancy =72000

I did a little mental exercise last week based on numbers from Touring Plans.
Max park capacities by park:
MK: 100,000
HS: 75,000
AK: 60,000
EP: 95,000
Total: 320,000
50% capacity would be 160,000 guests. That's still a ton of people. This is my own estimation but I would think that is the equivalent of a "3" on their crowd calendar. I may be way off here. I was at Disney in January 2018 when it was supposed to be a 3-4 crowd level and it was busy but not jammed in (except the busses, but that's another story). They may still use a lower capacity level to keep crowds spread out.

Disney Resorts have a total of 35,969 rooms. With an average of 3.6 people to a room (not based on anything, just a guess at the number of rooms that are not "full"), that gives you about 129,488 guests when the resorts are full.

Even if they significantly lower park capacity, I think there will be room to allow AP guests (maybe with reservations).

 

[BryGuy415]

I did a little mental exercise last week based on numbers from Touring Plans.
Max park capacities by park:
MK: 100,000
HS: 75,000
AK: 60,000
EP: 95,000
Total: 320,000
50% capacity would be 160,000 guests. That's still a ton of people. This is my own estimation but I would think that is the equivalent of a "3" on their crowd calendar. I may be way off here. I was at Disney in January 2018 when it was supposed to be a 3-4 crowd level and it was busy but not jammed in (except the busses, but that's another story). They may still use a lower capacity level to keep crowds spread out.

Disney Resorts have a total of 35,969 rooms. With an average of 3.6 people to a room (not based on anything, just a guess at the number of rooms that are not "full"), that gives you about 129,488 guests when the resorts are full.

Even if they significantly lower park capacity, I think there will be room to allow AP guests (maybe with reservations).

Based on what we heard from Chapek's responses in the Q2 earnings call, they're not basing the percentage on total park capacity, rather a percentage of their average attendance during their time of reopening. So 160,000, to me, seems extravagant. I would be more inclined to believe we'll see more of a 25%-20% of total operating capacity.

 

[GeorgiaHoo]

I did a little mental exercise last week based on numbers from Touring Plans.
Max park capacities by park:
MK: 100,000
HS: 75,000
AK: 60,000
EP: 95,000
Total: 320,000
50% capacity would be 160,000 guests. That's still a ton of people. This is my own estimation but I would think that is the equivalent of a "3" on their crowd calendar. I may be way off here. I was at Disney in January 2018 when it was supposed to be a 3-4 crowd level and it was busy but not jammed in (except the busses, but that's another story). They may still use a lower capacity level to keep crowds spread out.

Disney Resorts have a total of 35,969 rooms. With an average of 3.6 people to a room (not based on anything, just a guess at the number of rooms that are not "full"), that gives you about 129,488 guests when the resorts are full.

Even if they significantly lower park capacity, I think there will be room to allow AP guests (maybe with reservations).

I think the question when Disney talks about limiting capacity is whether they are going to limit to 50% of capacity or 50% of average attendance. Average attendance at MK is something like 56k according to various posts on the Internet, which is about 55% of capacity if capacity is 100k. An "average" attendance day is still really crowded. And that decision is only part of the puzzle. Other questions would be how they enforce social distancing at restaurants, in ride queues, on rides, in narrow walkways, etc. For instance, keeping six feet away is easy on rides like Dumbo and Peter Pan, but more difficult on rides like Jungle Cruise and any of the coasters. And you have to think no shows, parades or fireworks for a while.

 

[mmackeymouse]

I did a little mental exercise last week based on numbers from Touring Plans.
Max park capacities by park:
MK: 100,000
HS: 75,000
AK: 60,000
EP: 95,000
Total: 320,000
50% capacity would be 160,000 guests. That's still a ton of people. This is my own estimation but I would think that is the equivalent of a "3" on their crowd calendar. I may be way off here. I was at Disney in January 2018 when it was supposed to be a 3-4 crowd level and it was busy but not jammed in (except the busses, but that's another story). They may still use a lower capacity level to keep crowds spread out.

Disney Resorts have a total of 35,969 rooms. With an average of 3.6 people to a room (not based on anything, just a guess at the number of rooms that are not "full"), that gives you about 129,488 guests when the resorts are full.

Even if they significantly lower park capacity, I think there will be room to allow AP guests (maybe with reservations).

I would probably put the per-room estimate a bit higher.

Think how many suite and villa accommodations there are on property. Quite a bit. I think you can anticipate that many of those rooms have 5-6-7+ in those rooms.

Are there some rooms that will have 2 or 3 people in them? Sure. But, I think there are far, far more that will have large parties in them. After all, that is the point of a 2 BR villa, for example.

So, I'd say the average per room is higher. I'd say 4-5, maybe even 6.

 

[Oldnewfan]

Hate to admit this but I bought a large box of disposable plastic gloves on Amazon, mainly to pacify one of my kids (probably won’t even use them at this point). I was always the one sanitizing their hands before and after rides though so, with the exception of masks, we are pretty used to washing our hands and won’t be much of a change. I really hope Disney leaves the portable sinks out.

I have a box too. Nitrile. Use them at the gas pumps then peel off after filling. They definitely have their place. Just not something I would hand out at a theme park in the US with CDC's current recommendations.

 

[sheila14]

I agree that children shouldn’t have to wear them. And not just those under 2. But maybe 6 and under or so. But many think everyone should, which is a tad unrealistic.

Kids carry other contagious diseases like hand foot mouth, strep throat. Parents should protect their children as much as they protect their self. Being a pediatric nurse I see more and know more now than when I was raising my children over 25 years ago. Parents need to be parents and protect their children wearing a mask is the first step especially with this virus and no one know if/when it will start to attack children.

 

[helloconnie]

From The Disney Blog... Disney Springs to begin phased reopening May 20. Limited capacity, face masks for guests and cast members, increased cleaning. Parks and resorts to remain closed.

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2020/05/disney-springs-begins-phased-reopening-on-may-20/

 

[michellej47]

Kids carry other contagious diseases like hand foot mouth, strep throat. Parents should protect their children as much as they protect their self. Being a pediatric nurse I see more and know more now than when I was raising my children over 25 years ago. Parents need to be parents and protect their children wearing a mask is the first step especially with this virus and no one know if/when it will start to attack children.

But we are consantly told that wearing a mask doesn't protect US, it protects others. So with that logic, parents can't really protect their kids with a mask, right? My son has asthma, and a mask in that hot Florida heat will certainly cause him some breathing issues.

 

[Eric Smith]

And what about DVC owners

There are nearly 36.000 rooms onsite I think your figures are a bit skewed, if they were half full with sat

There are nearly 36000 onsite rooms 4 to room at 50% occupancy =72000

DVC owners would count as having a reservation at a WDW resort.

 

[helloconnie]

But we are consantly told that wearing a mask doesn't protect US, it protects others. So with that logic, parents can't really protect their kids with a mask, right? My son has asthma, and a mask in that hot Florida heat will certainly cause him some breathing issues.

The mask also offers you some level of protection. Let me ask you this, if a person was to sneeze or cough in your presence, knowing particles can travel up to 27 feet, would you want to have a mask on? I would!

 

[tlmadden73]

I think the question when Disney talks about limiting capacity is whether they are going to limit to 50% of capacity or 50% of average attendance. Average attendance at MK is something like 56k according to various posts on the Internet, which is about 55% of capacity if capacity is 100k. An "average" attendance day is still really crowded. And I think that just making that decision is only part of the puzzle. Other questions would be how they enforce social distancing at restaurants, in ride queues, on rides, in narrow walkways, etc. For instance, keeping six feet away is easy on rides like Dumbo and Peter Pan, but more difficult on rides like Jungle Cruise and any of the coasters. And you have to think no shows, parades or fireworks for a while.

Disney is probably just going to do whatever makes people "feel" safe enough to come to their place of business, at least at first and slowly re-introduce things as people feel safer (and if there isn't some hotspot breakout at WDW). A lot of it will be about public perception. Masks will probably be a big part of that public perception of safety at WDW.

In reality, we all know it isn't going to make people 100% safer. No matter how far apart you stand in line, you still have to walk past (and probably touch) the same things that everyone in front of you passed. No matter how many people are let in the park, there will be plenty of places where you are close to other people - a shop, a restaurant, a restroom, a ride. We are all doing that right now to get our groceries or go to Wal-Mart/Target. In a few weeks a lot of us will be going to eat out at restaurants again.

The more we feel safe, the more we will do. the more we do, the more the economy will get back to "normal" again. It's just the reality right now with no magic cure around the corner. We either do what we can to reduce our risk and feel safe and go out, or just stay at home until a vaccine is available or we have herd immunity.