Rude Behavior At Disney

[honugirl]

You see, I didn't think about something that would make you dizzy/off balance when standing but would be fine walking. I was trying to think of something that would make your legs/feet able to handle miles of walking but couldn't handle even minimal standing.

Inner ear issues make perfect sense.

Thanks for the education!

You're welcome!

THere are some joint conditions that are also much more painful when standing in one place for a long time , while walking uses different muscles and joint movements and is less painful.

This is true too. When I stop walking my joint pain gets a lot worse.


I just remembered another one from our last trip. We went to Akershus for the princess dinner one night. Just after we sat down at the table another family gets seated at the table next to us. They had a little girl that was around 5 or so who starts up with one of those nasty, nasty, nasty, wet, hacking coughs. We grab our appetizers from the buffet line and sit down, she's still hacking away. We order our dinner, that comes, now she's hacking so hard, she starts to vomit. She's right in my line of sight, so now, I'm trying to eat while having to listen to this and trying to not look over there because honestly, that's the last thing I want to see while eating, so I'm twisting around in my chair. They're still not leaving. Finally the princesses come out and she's still there, hacking and vomiting away. I've never been so grossed out in my life at a meal. I almost couldn't finish my dinner because the family was so inconsiderate as to let their daughter keep hacking away. Luckily I never got sick from it. But EWWWWWWWWWWW! Even the family with kids next to us was totally grossed out. The mother and I exchanged those glances and shook our heads at each other.

 

[buffettgirl]

Thank you SUELLEN. You seem to get what I am trying to say. But you BUFFETGIRL are another case entirely. If you are sitting on a bench we do not know if you are waiting to get on, waiting to go into the park, waiting for more of your group, etc. even if the bus can only only be going to one place. If you tell the first person that walks up that you were first, how is the 30 people behind him to know that. And since most people don't agree with you, maybe you need to look at it from their point of view before you start to question our intelligence.

again, if you cannot figure out that a person WAITING AT A BUS STOP is waiting for a bus, then there is no hope that you would ever realize that your behavior is anything less than stellar. And how do you know that most people don't agree with me? have you seen my pm's? no you haven't. Most people are loathe to fight with idiots so they simply stay quiet and send me cute little notes about how we should have signs that say "I'm waiting for a bus, you moron"

 

[allshookup]

This thread is turning into an argument about what is rude & what isn't. It is the reason threads get closed unfortunately, but I'm rather enjoying the back & forth. It makes me think about things, I might not have otherwise.

I think it's sad that people can not respect those that are forced to have to be in a wheelchair or ECV. It's not a luxury, it's a very difficult position to be in I'm sure & even if they did get to go the front of the line (a point still being debated apparently) is it really that big a deal that somebody handicapped should be cut a little extra slack? Are some people in ECVs rude? Yes but so are many of the able-bodied.

As for the bus thing, I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I really am confused. What do the people sitting on the bench expect if they are sitting there & more & more people are showing up & standing near the curb. Do you think when the bus arrives everyone standing should wait & turn around & say "Hey are you waiting for this bus and everyone should then part like the Red Sea & move out of the way for the people that chose to sit?" It just isn't going to happen. Like others have said, even if there is only one bus, how do we know you're not waiting for someone else to show up? If you are with somebody that has trouble standing & can not wait in line with you, you do have a couple of options.

1. Get a wheelchair. We used one for my mother one year, but my DH would close it up when she got on the bus & carry it on for her because we didn't want to have the bus driver bring the ramp down.

2. Stand in line & yell that the bus is coming...get into line! If I saw this happening, I can assure you I would wait a second for that person to catch up to you.

3. Let the people around you know that the person you are with cannot stand & ask if they can give him/her an extra minute to come up. I think if you speak up, you'd be surprised just how kind MOST people are. But don't expect them to KNOW your circumstances if you don't say something.

BTW calling people morons, is sure to get this thread closed. Too bad, because like I said I was learning a lot.

 

[hitthebids]

"I'm waiting for a bus, you moron"

Thank you for making my point. No further point to try to reason with you.

 

[buffettgirl]

have you not read a single word of what I said? We stand up when the bus is arriving. Usually before it. We stand once we see other people coming. But by that point it's too late because now people have started lining up behind the others who have decided they must be first, even though they were not there first. So now, we are the ones that look like the line jumpers even though we were there first.

Perhaps you're all not familiar with the bus stops that I"m talking about. The ones I mean are the ones that have small waiting areas, with no queue lines - just a bench and some sidewalk. There's no reason to be on the bench unless you are waiting for a bus.

If you arrive at a bus stop and someone else is already there then the polite thing to do is say "are you waiting for this bus?" Is that so hard, to open your mouths and utter some bit of politeness? are you waiting for this bus?

My head is ready to explode on this - but if someone is waiting at a bus stop then they are waiting for a bus. End of story. don't assume that they are waiting for anything but the bus. The bus. That's it. Just the bus. Only the bus. they are waiting for the bus. Whatever bus you're takign -that's the one they're waiting for. Got it.

 

[buffettgirl]

Thank you for making my point. No further point to try to reason with you.

It would help if you actually could read. I said that's what people are sending me in pm's. That we should wear signs that say this. This isn't what I said.
Read.

B U S
S T O P

 

[maxiesmom]

As for the bus thing, I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I really am confused. What do the people sitting on the bench expect if they are sitting there & more & more people are showing up & standing near the curb. Do you think when the bus arrives everyone standing should wait & turn around & say "Hey are you waiting for this bus and everyone should then part like the Red Sea & move out of the way for the people that chose to sit?"

Apparently that is what that poster expects.

Somehow I doubt that everyone who agrees with them are only pm'ing their support . Most of the Diser's I know of are not afraid to show their support to someone out in public.

And now when they can't bully people into seeing things their way, they have resulted to name calling. It is too bad that they are ruining what was a pretty interesting back and forth. I don like to hear other people perspective, even when I don't always agree with them.

 

[buffettgirl]

can't you people read?

 

[Suellen]

No arguement from me that you are waiting for the bus ~ you just are not "in line" for the bus until you are standing "in line" for the bus. IMHO.

And really ~ I still don't get what difference it makes if another family gets on the bus before you unless it is mostly full.

If you were in a line queue and happened upon a bench in the queue would you just sit on it and wait until it was your turn to board the ride and expect everyone else to wait for you to move before going on in the line???

I think that if the bus debate is to continue it should be done in a different thread so the OP can continue gathering information (stories) as he asked for.

 

[maxiesmom]

No arguement from me that you are waiting for the bus ~ you just are not "in line" for the bus until you are standing "in line" for the bus. IMHO.

That is the difference that buffettgirl doesn't seem willing to understand.

 

[TheWog]

Even in your example an empty bus arrives. A few people show up at the location that experience has shown is where the bus loads and get in a "line" that you are not in yet - yes, I know you are on a bench waiting at the area. Maybe my lack of brain power is kicking in, forgive me, but there are still plenty of seats available. Is it the end of the world to be 5th on the bus vs. 1st? if 30 people start to show up then I would take it upon myself to get in the "line" before they arrived rather than hope they understand my plight of being there first. Let your PMs show it is capital T and capital W.

 

[allshookup]

can't you people read?

Can't you be nice? You didn't come right out & call us morons but apparently you think the t-shirt idea was amusing enough to mention. If you didn't think it was nice or even a bit true, you wouldn't have mentioned it at all.

BTW I'm very aware of the type of bus stop you are talking about. Many of the resorts & DTD have them, although I do understand that the resorts have many buses to choose from & SOG only has one. That I will admit I didn't know. However, I DO sit at the bus stop & wait for my DH ALL the time. He is the slowest person on the planet & when I'm ready to go I always say, "Hey I'll meet you at the bus stop!" It keeps me from tapping my foot at the door & I'd rather sit & enjoy the fresh air. I don't expect people to keep asking me if I'm waiting for the bus & quite frankly I'm glad they don't.

Again I think this is very much on topic about what is rude & what isn't. I think it's important to understand different perspectives. It isn't always clear cut & this is just an example. I do think name calling or bad name inferring should be kept out of this thread.

 

[KCMiller]

And I don't think screaming at the characters is what a little 7 year old girl is supposed to do. There's a big difference between talking and screaming so loudly that no one can hear over you. Maybe the little girl was excited, but it would be far more polite if her parents would teach her to be a bit more quiet about it.

Hear, hear! I know small children scream and shriek. They also wear diapers and use baby bottles. Our job as parents is to teach them how NOT to do those things. It's a pet peeve of mine when I hear small children shrieking or screaming, and their parents are just standing there, oblivious. How about saying 'softly, darling - Mommy can't hear you when you are screaming.'

I raised three children, and belive me, they all shrieked and screamed. A few times. Then they learned not to, because, as I taught them, it was rude to the people around them. And they learned better ways of expressing themselves. Not rocket science, people. Parenting.

KC

 

[Mrs.Toad]

have you not read a single word of what I said? We stand up when the bus is arriving. Usually before it. We stand once we see other people coming. But by that point it's too late because now people have started lining up behind the others who have decided they must be first, even though they were not there first. So now, we are the ones that look like the line jumpers even though we were there first.

Perhaps you're all not familiar with the bus stops that I"m talking about. The ones I mean are the ones that have small waiting areas, with no queue lines - just a bench and some sidewalk. There's no reason to be on the bench unless you are waiting for a bus.

If you arrive at a bus stop and someone else is already there then the polite thing to do is say "are you waiting for this bus?" Is that so hard, to open your mouths and utter some bit of politeness? are you waiting for this bus?

My head is ready to explode on this - but if someone is waiting at a bus stop then they are waiting for a bus. End of story. don't assume that they are waiting for anything but the bus. The bus. That's it. Just the bus. Only the bus. they are waiting for the bus. Whatever bus you're takign -that's the one they're waiting for. Got it.

I understand you. I think the whole thing depends on what kind of bus stop you're at. Clearly, you're talking about the ones that have no real "line" set up, just some benches clustered together, with each cluster only serving one bus. The ones I've used are not set up with enough sidewalk space to even form a line. There, it's pretty obvious who was there first.

If it's a long serpentine line serving multiple busses and there are some benches next to it, then it would not make sense to wait for the people on the bench.

 

[Suellen]

I am thinking of this type of bus stop. Clearly there is room for a large amount of people to gather b/n the benches and the actual bus.

If your behind is on a bench behind the line. Ya ain't in the line.

 

[DizBelle]

have you not read a single word of what I said? We stand up when the bus is arriving. Usually before it. We stand once we see other people coming. But by that point it's too late because now people have started lining up behind the others who have decided they must be first, even though they were not there first. So now, we are the ones that look like the line jumpers even though we were there first.

Perhaps you're all not familiar with the bus stops that I"m talking about. The ones I mean are the ones that have small waiting areas, with no queue lines - just a bench and some sidewalk. There's no reason to be on the bench unless you are waiting for a bus.

If you arrive at a bus stop and someone else is already there then the polite thing to do is say "are you waiting for this bus?" Is that so hard, to open your mouths and utter some bit of politeness? are you waiting for this bus?

My head is ready to explode on this - but if someone is waiting at a bus stop then they are waiting for a bus. End of story. don't assume that they are waiting for anything but the bus. The bus. That's it. Just the bus. Only the bus. they are waiting for the bus. Whatever bus you're takign -that's the one they're waiting for. Got it.

Why should I assume they're taking the same bus I am? I'm going to MK. I'm going to get on the MK bus. If they're going to Epcot, they're not going to get on the MK bus.

I don't think I should have to keep track of everyone at the bus stop's destination. What if after I ask them where they are going, they get off the bench and someone else sits down. I have to make sure I see that and ask the new bench sitters where they are going. And I have to remove the original party from the bench sitter destination list.

If I am a bench sitter, I think I would be annoyed being asked by 20 different people asking where I am going.

The resort bus stops don't have lines anyway. They have a single shelter and you never know where the bus doors are going to be when the bus stops so there is no way to know where to line up.

AND, apparently, I'm going to have to keep track of which bench sitters were there before I showed up and which sat down after I showed up.

Then there are those that were sitting when I showed up but then got off the bench to board a bus and then someone else sits. So, I have to keep track of the standers too. That's A LOT of parties to keep track of.

There are at least a half dozen benches at any resort bus stop. Keeping track of potentially multiple parties for each bench is going to give me a headache.

I think I'm going to have to bring my laptop and develop a spreadsheet to do what is apparently required to take a WDW bus to MK.

 

[Jaymie]

This past trip, I think I encountered the rudest behaviour yet of my 15 visits. Our family walked into the theater to watch Muppets 3D. We all take our seats and the person behind my sister decides to take off their shoes and put their feet up on her seat, right next to her ear. Now maybe if the shoes hadn't been taken off, it wouldn't have been so bad. But stinky bare feet practically in her face, I don't think so. And the rest of his party says nothing. Well my sister just looks and me doesn't say a word, cause she doesn't want to be rude. Well, I didn't have a problem telling him to put his feet down. Then the family talked loudly through the WHOLE show. They were Brazilian and it appeared that the younger kid didn't understand english and maybe they were translating it for him, but let's try to whisper, not talk louder than Gonzo!!

As for everyone's beef with wheelchairs & ECV's, in all honesty, I don't love it when I walk up to a bus stop and see one waiting. But I consider myself very lucky that I don't have to deal with the inconvenience of using one every day, just to get around. So I just try to not worry about the extra time it's going to take and be thankful that I'm able to walk without a problem.

 

[hitthebids]

Hey BUFFETGIRL, I just realized I will be down there about 2 weeks before you. If I can I will put up a sign at SOG that will go something like this:

ATTENTION ALL PEOPLE STANDING FOR THE BUS
IF THERE ARE PEOPLE SITTING ON THE BENCH, PLEASE ASSUME THEY
ARE WAITING TO GET ON THE BUS AND ARE FIRST. IF FOR SOME REASON
THEY DON'T GET UP AND THE BUS LEAVES, THEN IT IS NOT BUFFETGIRL AND GROUP SO FEEL FREE TO BOARD THE NEXT BUS AT WILL.
THANK YOU

Sorry, but i just couldn't help myself.

 

[goofyernmost]

Most people are loathe to fight with idiots so they simply stay quiet and send me cute little notes about how we should have signs that say "I'm waiting for a bus, you moron"

That just cannot be true...their still arguing with your statements.

"I'm waiting for a bus, you moron"

Then get off your butt and get in line like the rest of those that realize the world does not revolve around them individually. I believe it was stated a bench is a place that you wait for a bus to arrive, the line is where you wait to get on the bus. It's your choice, sit and take the your chances on when to get on the bus or get in line and be able to get on in sequence with your arrival. It is apparent that you have never spent much time on public transit. Those are societal rules, it's just the way it is.

 

[maccagerl]

can't you people read?

I can read just fine, but I can't read your mind when you're relaxing on a bench at the back of the bus stop while everyone else is forming a line!
But no one is stopping you from sitting on the bench while everyone else gets on the bus, so no harm no foul!