Rude Behavior At Disney

[SuperTink]

1. Yes people in wheelchairs are given preference whenever possible on lines. I've seen it and I've been told how great it is to have someone in a wheelchair in your group.

OK so when will you be running over a family member's legs so you can have a grand ol' time in DisneyWorld? Hmmm?

 

[bwilcox]

People on this board are too sensitive. You think that any blanket complaint is directed at you. It is not. It is directed at the 95% or more people who visit Disney that don't read these boards. This is just a place to vent. Just to go over a few things:

1. Yes people in wheelchairs are given preference whenever possible on lines. I've seen it and I've been told how great it is to have someone in a wheelchair in your group.

You are absolutely wrong. Wheelchairs and ECVs don't get people to the front of the lines anymore, although they used to a while back. If you don't believe me, call Disney and ask.

 

[Mrs.Toad]

People on this board are too sensitive. You think that any blanket complaint is directed at you. It is not. It is directed at the 95% or more people who visit Disney that don't read these boards. This is just a place to vent. Just to go over a few things:

1. Yes people in wheelchairs are given preference whenever possible on lines. I've seen it and I've been told how great it is to have someone in a wheelchair in your group.
2. Electric scooters are dangerous in the wrong hands and should be banned in the Parks. If you hit someone you will hurt them. Those carts weigh a few hundred pounds. Even running over someones foot will cause pain. Yes you maybe careful and such but how are we supposed to know that. You can not speak for everyone that drives one.
3. Sitting on the bench at the bus stop and then jumping to the front on the line is RUDE. We are not mind readers, we don't know that you are waiting for the bus. If you are first and people start to Que up, then get in line. If someone in your group needs to sit, fine. But the bulk of your group must get up.
4.Children are important. My children are just as important to me as yours are to you. If my kids are willing to wait an hour to get a good seat for a parade then they are entitled to it. I used to make my kids bunch up to let some other kids scoot in and guess what would happen? A van full of adults would try to push in with the one or two kids that we accommodated. So I don't do it anymore. Done.
5.The pools do not provide toys. Any toys at the pool belong to someone else. Even the few pools that rent "noodles" are making me responsible to return it. Kids are kids and don't know any better. If you see your kid playing with some toys, and I am taking a liberty thinking everyone watches their kids, then you must ask them to give it back. We lugged it down to the pool for our kids, not yours.

I know I may sound harsh but I can not believe some of the things I have read on here this week. Disboard people are the nicest people in the world but I know I am going to get back stuff like, "This lonely little boy was playing with his boats all alone at the pool and my angels went over and played with him and he had the best time in his life and now we are lifelong friends with the parents." They remind me of comedy show. All the jokes are funny except the ones that might be about you. Believe me, they are not about you.

Maybe you should think about your delivery, then. Your comments were very generalized, seeming to apply to all wheelchair/scooter users. Even in this last quote, above, you say all scooters should be banned, because SOME people don't know how to handle them? You can't generalize like that and expect the average, careful scooter or PWC user not to make a rebuttal.

Notice in this thread, when someone mentioned a specific rude behavior by a wheelchair or scooter user, they weren't questioned. Only your generalizations were.

Yes, it's a fact that some (a small minority IME) wheelchair, scooter and stroller users are rude, but it's also a fact that some walkers are just as rude by walking right in front of them. It seems perhaps you are too sensitive to those of us venting about the latter, as well.

 

[MaryKatesMom]

We were watching the parade on Main Street there was a little girl maybe 7 yrs old standing to the left of my DH while the parade came towards our right. My DH is videotaping the parade and as soon as a character would come into view she would scream "Snow White!!!!!!" etc. It was eerily similar to Will Ferrel screaming "Santa!" in Elf. Each character was treated as if it were the most amazing surprise ever.

The video is a scream! After each meltdown, my DH would dryly say something like. "Is that Snow White?" "I wonder who that is?" "Do you see anybody?"

 

[Mrs.Toad]

I know lots will find this gross but what would you do?

Happened a few years ago while at "Honey I shrunk...". A family had plopped themselves right in the middle and when asked to move to the end the woman said "no way was she moving". As we stumbled across them to get seats, my niece (age 5) inadvertantly let out a rather loud and ordurious bit of flatulence, right in front of the woman who wasn't moving. I told her to say "Excuse me" and she turned to me and said "but Auntie, if I didn't have to climb over them, I wouldn't have farted".

I apologized to the woman but then we all got into a giggling fit over it.

EB

What karma! Hilarious!

 

[hitthebids]

IF i am wrong about the handicap que, then I am sorry. I was there summer of 07 and did not see anyone on line in a wheelchair. I did see people in the load area in wheelchairs however so I can not go beyond what I saw. I will humbly accept your statement as fact. And yes I know that Disney can not ban ECVs under FED law. BUT they do not have to make them available I believe for rent. Again if I am wrong then shame on me. The fact is if you step in front of a person and bump in to them, then it is just that, a bump. If you step in front of an ECV, it is going to hurt. For what ever reason, for whoever fault it is, it is going to hurt. Oh and to those people that think I should have someone in my family run over so they need to be in a wheelchair so I get some of the "benefits", SHAME ON YOU. Wishing pain upon another person is also RUDE. But that is what the OP was about.

 

[maccagerl]

You see, I didn't think about something that would make you dizzy/off balance when standing but would be fine walking. I was trying to think of something that would make your legs/feet able to handle miles of walking but couldn't handle even minimal standing.

Inner ear issues make perfect sense.

Thanks for the education!

THere are some joint conditions that are also much more painful when standing in one place for a long time , while walking uses different muscles and joint movements and is less painful.

 

[buffettgirl]

We were watching the parade on Main Street there was a little girl maybe 7 yrs old standing to the left of my DH while the parade came towards our right. My DH is videotaping the parade and as soon as a character would come into view she would scream "Snow White!!!!!!" etc. It was eerily similar to Will Ferrel screaming "Santa!" in Elf. Each character was treated as if it were the most amazing surprise ever.

The video is a scream! After each meltdown, my DH would dryly say something like. "Is that Snow White?" "I wonder who that is?" "Do you see anybody?"

see, I don't find that rude at all. That's what a little 7 year old girl is supposed to do. Perhaps it was her very first trip to Disney and it was the very first time she saw any of these characters? Dunno..but there's nothing rude about excitement and enthusiasm by a child, at a parade.

But I guess now we have to make sure our little ones don't talk at all in the parks....

And I still maintain that if some of you folks don't have enough brain power to figure out that people sitting on a bench, at a bus stop, are in fact waiting for a bus, then you're hopeless and I will happily let you get on the bus first because it's always nice to give up our seats for the more challenged among us.

 

[BayouMickey]

IF i am wrong about the handicap que, then I am sorry. I was there summer of 07 and did not see anyone on line in a wheelchair. I did see people in the load area in wheelchairs however so I can not go beyond what I saw. I will humbly accept your statement as fact. And yes I know that Disney can not ban ECVs under FED law. BUT they do not have to make them available I believe for rent. Again if I am wrong then shame on me. The fact is if you step in front of a person and bump in to them, then it is just that, a bump. If you step in front of an ECV, it is going to hurt. For what ever reason, for whoever fault it is, it is going to hurt. Oh and to those people that think I should have someone in my family run over so they need to be in a wheelchair so I get some of the "benefits", SHAME ON YOU. Wishing pain upon another person is also RUDE. But that is what the OP was about.

maybe it's coming from the selfishness in the tones of your statements.
to deny someone to be able to get around the parks COMFORTABLY (I'd like to see you self propell a wheelchair for 10 hours) is showing lack of understanding. btw the average weight of a ECV is only 80-100 lbs with a max speed of 4mph (used to be 8mph). They are not heavy at all and max speed is less than someone jogging at a moderate rate.

 

[ntsammy5]

I just realized thr popcorn smiley is missing.

 

[toocherie]

IF i am wrong about the handicap que, then I am sorry. I was there summer of 07 and did not see anyone on line in a wheelchair. I did see people in the load area in wheelchairs however so I can not go beyond what I saw. I will humbly accept your statement as fact. And yes I know that Disney can not ban ECVs under FED law. BUT they do not have to make them available I believe for rent. Again if I am wrong then shame on me. The fact is if you step in front of a person and bump in to them, then it is just that, a bump. If you step in front of an ECV, it is going to hurt. For what ever reason, for whoever fault it is, it is going to hurt. Oh and to those people that think I should have someone in my family run over so they need to be in a wheelchair so I get some of the "benefits", SHAME ON YOU. Wishing pain upon another person is also RUDE. But that is what the OP was about.

bids: not to cause a firestorm, but I am an ECV user and I have to say that there HAVE been times that I have gotten on a ride faster because of the mobility device. However, to go along with kpeveler, there are also times I have had to wait a much longer time than the non-disabled to get on a ride (the one that comes to mind is Toy Story, because often you wait in the regular line and while everyone else who was in line with you is riding, you then go and stand in another line for the handicapped cars--at least that's the way it is at Disneyland). So I think you're both right and wrong; but the OFFICIAL position is that wheelchair/ECV users do not get "front of the line" access.

see, I don't find that rude at all. That's what a little 7 year old girl is supposed to do. Perhaps it was her very first trip to Disney and it was the very first time she saw any of these characters? Dunno..but there's nothing rude about excitement and enthusiasm by a child, at a parade.


And I still maintain that if some of you folks don't have enough brain power to figure out that people sitting on a bench, at a bus stop, are in fact waiting for a bus, then you're hopeless and I will happily let you get on the bus first because it's always nice to give up our seats for the more challenged among us.

one of my favorite parts of the park is seeing the joy and excitement of little ones, so I don't get this either--but to each his own. and about the last paragraph

maybe it's coming from the selfishness in the tones of your statements.
to deny someone to be able to get around the parks COMFORTABLY (I'd like to see you self propell a wheelchair for 10 hours) is showing lack of understanding. btw the average weight of a ECV is only 80-100 lbs with a max speed of 4mph (used to be 8mph). They are not heavy at all and max speed is less than someone jogging at a moderate rate.

I think the message in "bids" message got lost in the tone--not just about ECV users but about other kids, etc.

 

[Scurvy]

see, I don't find that rude at all. That's what a little 7 year old girl is supposed to do. Perhaps it was her very first trip to Disney and it was the very first time she saw any of these characters? Dunno..but there's nothing rude about excitement and enthusiasm by a child, at a parade.

But I guess now we have to make sure our little ones don't talk at all in the parks....

And I still maintain that if some of you folks don't have enough brain power to figure out that people sitting on a bench, at a bus stop, are in fact waiting for a bus, then you're hopeless and I will happily let you get on the bus first because it's always nice to give up our seats for the more challenged among us.

That isn't very nice. It could just as easily be assumed that someone sitting on the bench rather than standing in line is waiting on another member of their party. There are times I would love to just sit on bench and wait, but I see that it's crowded and want to be sure to get a seat on the bus, so I go stand in line. It seems like the smart thing to do.

And I don't think screaming at the characters is what a little 7 year old girl is supposed to do. There's a big difference between talking and screaming so loudly that no one can hear over you. Maybe the little girl was excited, but it would be far more polite if her parents would teach her to be a bit more quiet about it.

 

[TheWog]

And I still maintain that if some of you folks don't have enough brain power to figure out that people sitting on a bench, at a bus stop, are in fact waiting for a bus, then you're hopeless and I will happily let you get on the bus first because it's always nice to give up our seats for the more challenged among us.

I'm not committing either way, but how are people supposed to know which bus you are waiting for? We waited at our Jamaica bus stop and sometimes sat on benches. If our bus was coming we would get up and go over. I was usually standing anyway looking at different things, but DW and DS would sometimes sit. If our bus came we got up and got ready to board, but I didn't expect anyone to get out of our way because we were there first. If there is a large crowd forming I make sure I am there with my family to get on board. Maybe because we were there during a quieter time it was easier or us. Do you tell people arriving that you are waiting for the MK bus or the EPCOT bus? I am just trying to understand your point of view a bit more. IF you are waiting for EPCOT and EPCOT arrives do you get up right away and move toward where it loads or do you wait? I just don't know how people are supposed to know what your plans are.

 

[Suellen]

Wow, wow, wow. Lots of rude words and snippy statements.

I read these comments every few pages... not all of them mind you. But am shocked the bus debate is still going on. I wanted to comment on it but didn't thinking maybe it was finally dying out and not wanting to drudge it up again.... but since it is still going on ~ I will through out my 2 cents FWIW.

Bus: If there is a line and you aren't in the line ~ you are NOT the line leader. And really ~ the only issue should be when there is a lot of people waiting around otherwise everyone is getting on the bus and WHAT difference does it make what order? If you want a seat on the bus and it looks like it is going to be full ~ give up your seat at the bus stop so that you can get one for the ride. Please... there are at least 6 different buses (maybe 7?) how the heck do I know what one you are waiting for. Also FWIW ~ I am a bench sitter and typically wait for everyone to get on before I do.

ECV/Runners/Walkers/Crawlers ~ I don't really care how you get around the park..... be mindful that there are other people around you who don't want to be elbowed, pushed, shoved, run over or otherwise touched by you. IF you hit, elbow, push, shove, run over or otherwise touch another person for GOD'S Sake say "Excuse me!" my 3.5 year old knows to do this... why don't adults???

Rules ~ the rules are there for everyone. Yes ~ even YOU! If the sign says no flash photography ~ yes it is directed at YOU. If the CM says move all the way to the end of the row ~ rest assured they are talking to YOU ~ and if you didn't want to sit at the end ~ maybe you shouldn't have thrown me an elbow to get in front of me and my family and enter the theater first. If you child doesn't meet a height requirement... they don't ride.

Kids ~ your kids are YOUR responsibility ~ you choose to have them ~ you choose to have them on vacation with you. Make them follow the rules of "Disney" and society. Teach them to say excuse me or sorry, that not everything is theirs for the taking. Know your child before you go and plan your trip around what they can handle ~ my children are not allowed to have full on meltdowns in the middle of crowd ruining everyones good time ~ I don't want to hear your kid screaming bloody murder while you look straight ahead pretending like you don't hear it. Get out of line ~ deal with the issue ~ reacess and see if maybe your family needs a break.

I don't understand why people in crowds or on vacation or I don't know what the reason ~ feel like all of a sudden all things in the real world that would be considered the right thing to do fly out the window???

 

[buffettgirl]

I'm not committing either way, but how are people supposed to know which bus you are waiting for? We waited at our Jamaica bus stop and sometimes sat on benches. If our bus was coming we would get up and go over. I was usually standing anyway looking at different things, but DW and DS would sometimes sit. If our bus came we got up and got ready to board, but I didn't expect anyone to get out of our way because we were there first. Do you tell people arriving that you are waiting for the MK bus or the EPCOT bus? I am just trying to understand your point of view a bit more. IF you are waiting for EPCOT and EPCOT arrives do you get up right away and move toward where it loads or do you wait? I just don't know how people are supposed to know what your plans are.

ok, way back when I explained this already but I will explain it again.

I'm at the Shades of Green bus stop. Waiting for the bus to TTC. It's the only bus that's coming and my party is sitting waiting. No one is there. Groups arrive after us, they see us sitting. Bus pulls up and we all stand trying not to crowd the bus, making sure our kids don't get run over but yes, of course we stand and get ready to board, after people get off the bus, and the other folks who arrived after us jump on the bus first. There is only one bus coming.

Alternatively, we're at the SOG bus stop at the TTC. The bus is ONLY going to SOG. We're waiting on the bench. People arrive after us and stand where they assume the bus will stop. The bus appears in the parking lot and we all stand waiting for it to make it's way around the parking lot People jump on the bus in front of us even though we've stood and it's clear that we're waiting for the only bus that is going to come to that bus stop.

I have sometimes said "excuse me but we WERE waiting for this bus" but most often manners dictate that it's impolite to call out other people on their rudeness so we just let it go.

On the other hand, I have been at multi bus stops and I have simply said to those waiting "excuse me, what bus are you waiting for?" and then I know - ok, you're waiting for epcot, I'm waiting for mk. good enough. We all know what bus we're waiting for and we'll all board in the order which we arrived.

I'm really not sure why this is hard to comprehend. If someone is THERE before you then they are first. Not you. And unless Santa's Sleigh is routinely pulling up to the bus stop then chances are pretty good that the people waiting are waiting for a bus.

 

[maxiesmom]

And I still maintain that if some of you folks don't have enough brain power to figure out that people sitting on a bench, at a bus stop, are in fact waiting for a bus, then you're hopeless and I will happily let you get on the bus first because it's always nice to give up our seats for the more challenged among us.

Yes, they are waiting for a bus. But no one else knows WHICH bus they are waiting for. And it is not my job to take a survey of everyone at the bus stop to find out. If you want to be first on, you should be standing in line. And while you are waiting on a bus while you are sitting on a bench, you are not in fact in line for the bus. Kind of like at our local movie theater, which has benches by the ticket window. I don't consider the people on the benches to be in line to get a ticket, while they may in fact be waiting to see a movie.

See how subjective this whole "who is rude" thing is? You think I am rude for not quizzing the people sitting on the benches, I think you are rude for sitting on a bench and thinking that equates waiting in line.

 

[Halloweenqueen]

I totally understand Disney is for everyone, but from a child's point of view it is geared towards them.

I've stopped my children from getting in front of adults in character lines, or squeezing past adults for a better view of the parade or fireworks. They never tried to do these things because they were unmannered, they just don't understand an adult's point of view.

I remember waiting for Jedi Mickey during SW weekends and hearing the couple behind me say that they have never seen so many kids. lol Ten minutes later my son is asking me why adults want their picture with Mickey. lol

I think Disney is big enough for both adults and families with children to enjoy. Mutual respect would make a lot of these rude experiences disappear.

 

[dvcdisney]

I thought I'd share a story. Although it's been several months later, I am still quite upset about it.

We were waiting in line at the Princess Storybook Dining on our last vacation (past August) and there was this family who was rather loud, pushy and downright obnoxious behind us. I believe they were upseting everyone around them, but mostly the people behind them. Anyways, we tried to just ignore them and I would frequently bring up my children in front of me so they didn't hear what these people were yelling out. So as we were making our way to the area where we would take the photos, they continued to get louder, now they just started yelling out "hey there's Snow White, hey there's so and so". Anyways, when we became the next person to get our photos taken, the CM there came over to us and started explaining what we would do. She was in the middle of a sentence when all of a sudden, the woman (term used loosely - yes, I do still sound upset about it), pushed my daughter and I over and yelled out that her daughter needed to see Cinderella. No excuse me or pardon me. Because I was caught off guard and would normally politely move over, I did and it makes me angry that I did, even until now. When I realized what I did, I quickly moved back. She didn't even realize that we were having a conversation with the CM, all she cared about was what she wanted! At the same time, the CM had loudly said that they will be able to see them when they are at their table. (I honestly think that we were the only thing that was keeping those people from running over and seeing Cinderella while she was visiting a table.) The CM, rather loudly -although quite futile, had said " Some people, sheesh,!" she then told me "some people should be taught better manners"...To which the woman behind me just grunted. Then, without skipping a beat, she began our discussion again. Needless to say, I hope she wasn't as friendly to them as she was with us. They certainly do not deserve any courtesy.

I know the only reason why they were so rude is because they thought that they were the only ones at Disney and I could hear it now ..."I can do whatever I want, I paid a lot of money to get here"....yes, and I suppose rest of us came here for free!

 

[mom2meiko]

And yes I know that Disney can not ban ECVs under FED law. BUT they do not have to make them available I believe for rent. Again if I am wrong then shame on me. The fact is if you step in front of a person and bump in to them, then it is just that, a bump. If you step in front of an ECV, it is going to hurt. For what ever reason, for whoever fault it is, it is going to hurt. Oh and to those people that think I should have someone in my family run over so they need to be in a wheelchair so I get some of the "benefits", SHAME ON YOU. Wishing pain upon another person is also RUDE. But that is what the OP was about.

i just want to say that while i am not technically "handicapped" i do have severe problems with my back. not only do i have arthritis, i also have 2 herniated disks and degenerative disk disease. this makes walking any real distance and standing for any length of time a problem for me. (if i overdue it i typically end up stuck in bed, unable to move, heavily medicated for at least several weeks.) disney is so large - and there is so much standing around in lines, etc. that last year for the first time i was unable to do it on my own and had to rent an ecv each day at the parks. the alternative is for me to not be able to go. (we also had our 6.5 mo old baby with us so dh could not push the stroller and wheelchair at the same time.) if disney did not rent ecv's i would not be able to go so i hope that they never change their policy.

that being said, i drive slowly and carefully because i am terrified of hitting one of the many many people (adults and children) who literally dash right out in front of me!)

i also want to say that i can understand your concern from a different perspective. i was in a walmart w/ my sister and her 2 sons. one was in the carriage, the other walking slightly ahead (but not more than a foot or so.) an old man in an ecv came barrelling down the aisle and not only hit my nephew, he repeatedly drove into my nephew who at this point had become pinned against a shelving unit. (my first thought was that the man had suffered a stroke but it turns out he had just lost control of his ecv.) i am still so thankful that my nephew only suffered bruises in the incident.

my point is, yes, there can be injuries (although hopefully minor ones) with ecv's in the parks. the drivers of the ecv's need to use caution and watch out for those around them. but at the same time, the people around the parks should also realize that they could be hurt if they do just step in front of an ecv. they are not the easiest to maneuver in the crowded areas and maybe showing a little compassion for someone who is doing their best is not asking too much. (and ps - i've seen parents pushing strollers more recklessly than most of the ecv drivers i've seen in the parks.)

 

[hitthebids]

Thank you SUELLEN. You seem to get what I am trying to say. But you BUFFETGIRL are another case entirely. If you are sitting on a bench we do not know if you are waiting to get on, waiting to go into the park, waiting for more of your group, etc. even if the bus can only only be going to one place. If you tell the first person that walks up that you were first, how is the 30 people behind him to know that. And since most people don't agree with you, maybe you need to look at it from their point of view before you start to question our intelligence.