Resale shopping again.. my heart wants one thing but my head says another. Give your opinions.

As a family who loves WL I stalk and monitor the prices at BRV as I would very much consider some of them if the value get’s there to lock in more stays at WL for the coming years and to make it easy to get rooms in the harder to book season. Some thoughts.

Assuming that you can get CCV points at about 130 a point BRV would have to drop to the lower 50 dollars a point to equal the same value of points/dollar.

I think a lot of people just like the ease of being inside the main building. For us, I don’t think it matters too much but CCV has slightly better access to most of the food spots. IMO the charm of the BRV lobby makes up for that.

If you ever want to host a large group of people at WL and need a 3BR there are only 4 of them and they are within the CCV portion. They are awesome rooms and can be hard to book so owning at CCV has an advantage there.

In the short run we need a few more CCV points and CCV makes more sense for us as we love that GV but in the long run if we ever had the chance to add on a good bucket of points and BRV drops to where it’s a strong value and way to get more WL points for less of a hit in the short term I would be very tempted.

If you instead view the cabins as your goal then it’s just better to go for deep value SAP points and SSR is likely a good target.
 
Some of this may be redundant in what I shared while there but here is my thoughts on the 2 places we actually stayed at. And 2 questions that are weighing on my mind.

BLT
I really loved the views at night. A theme park view room would be amazing. We were in a preferred view room and the view during the day was nice and you could see Epcot. At night you couldn’t really see the ball too well due to light pollution in front of it, you could see the Epcot fireworks in the distance and a portion of the light pageant. I loved loved that you can see the fireworks and castle from the walking bridge or over off the deck area, huge plus as I don’t ever want to watch fireworks on Main St at MK.

We really really liked the refurbished 1 bedroom. 2 bathrooms is hard to beat. We liked the non galley kitchen layout w/ the island. The abstract art is very cool and I like it alot but I didn’t get the feels when I looked at it like I did at BWV, no pure joy while brushing my teeth like at BWV.

When I came home from our trip in April I for sure thought I would love being able to walk to MK from BLT. Well that experience was pretty neutral to me. Not great, not horrible.

I like that BLT has cover if you need to go get food. I like the food options. I don’t love the contemporary much. Very much feels like an airport. I don’t love that BLT is disconnected from Contemporary, this is a big reason I didn’t like VDH at first either.

You all may know I am bathroom snob. After taking the red eye and not sleeping our room wasn’t ready so I had to freshen up in the lobby bathroom and apply my sunscreen etc. This bathroom was SO NICE. The lobby bathroom was a huge single bathroom no stalls. Its was immaculately clean. I could set my makeup bag on the counter without hesitation because it was so clean. This is a small thing but to me it made a great difference in the start of my day.

Since we stayed in a 1 bedroom via an unexpected upgrade I can honestly say my husband may have had blinders on in regards the stay at CCV. He was blinded by the BLT 1 bedroom

- My biggest decision making question on BLT would be… could this preferred view actually be given as a theme park view since you can technically see Epcot?

CCV
I walked in and even though I had an idea of what to expect I was still in awe, especially after leaving the blah BLT/Contemporary lobby. CCV felt special much like VGC does although piano man really elevates VGC imo. I also noticed the homey vibe of CCV/BRV. People hanging out playing games, kids walking barefoot around (not a negative just an observation) I really liked the pool tables and fooseball outside, maybe this is part of their community hall? I just really like that my son can be doing that and I can have eyes him while hanging out by the water and not have him behind closed doors.

Seeing the water pegaent was a big plus. Not excited about the fireworks view from here though.

I didn’t realize that BRV and CCV were connected so closely. I really see it as one resort and I know I can get into BRV pretty easily most times of year I have found, so that is a factor in my decision.

The boat ride to MK was amazing.. seeing the monorail going back and forth next to the iconic Grand Floridian, seeing the expanse of the water. This boat rode did beat out the ride from BWV to HS by far.


- My biggest decision making question/wonder here is, is CCV more popular and more expensive solely due to BRV 2042 expiration? I really don’t see how the CCV lobby could be the selling point over BRV since they are basically feet away from one another. All in all we really liked CCV and I cant believe I considered selling it without ever going there.
Keep CCV and buy BLT :)

Not all trips are created equally..

There are times that call for pragmatism (ie. extra bathroom in BLT, NYE walk back without any lines)… while other trips include more resort time, playing around, enjoy the “isolation” feeling…

(Either way it has been fun following along)
 
Keep CCV and buy BLT :)

Not all trips are created equally..

There are times that call for pragmatism (ie. extra bathroom in BLT, NYE walk back without any lines)… while other trips include more resort time, playing around, enjoy the “isolation” feeling…

(Either way it has been fun following along)
Pragmatism, smagatism! Boardwalk Grand Villas!
 
I agree, CCV is definitely priced higher due to expiration.

But I still wonder why their rooms seem to book up so much quicker than BRV. More contracts? I've never really looked into it, actually.

I don't know why I thought you owned at CCV and BWV. (What you own is right there in your signature...ha!) I do feel like you mention loving BWV and the feelings you get there a lot. So how do you compare the "feel" of Wilderness Lodge vs. Boardwalk?
WL didn't give me the feels like BW did, it did have me an awe of its grandeur but no feels. DH was just saying how this is basically VGC the whole time.
 

As a family who loves WL I stalk and monitor the prices at BRV as I would very much consider some of them if the value get’s there to lock in more stays at WL for the coming years and to make it easy to get rooms in the harder to book season. Some thoughts.

Assuming that you can get CCV points at about 130 a point BRV would have to drop to the lower 50 dollars a point to equal the same value of points/dollar.

I think a lot of people just like the ease of being inside the main building. For us, I don’t think it matters too much but CCV has slightly better access to most of the food spots. IMO the charm of the BRV lobby makes up for that.

If you ever want to host a large group of people at WL and need a 3BR there are only 4 of them and they are within the CCV portion. They are awesome rooms and can be hard to book so owning at CCV has an advantage there.

In the short run we need a few more CCV points and CCV makes more sense for us as we love that GV but in the long run if we ever had the chance to add on a good bucket of points and BRV drops to where it’s a strong value and way to get more WL points for less of a hit in the short term I would be very tempted.

If you instead view the cabins as your goal then it’s just better to go for deep value SAP points and SSR is likely a good target.
The 3 bedroom aspect makes a lot of sense. I was wondering about cabin availability. My husband you tubed a cabin video while we ate at Glacier Point.
 
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Off to sports armed with my point charts to make my case to my husband! I stumbled upon something that shocked me while examining these charts. :magnify:
Speaking of point charts and CCV, this is part of why I think CCV is a hidden gem. Its point chart practically matches BRV as a 2042 resort, but it gets 26 more years and can be had for $120-130/point. Points are cheap and you don't need massive stacks for high cost charts.

I also love the simplicity of no separate view categories at CCV (same as something I appreciate about BCV), so it's just one easy point chart to follow and not a situation where all the "value/cheap" categories get booked up and your carefully calculated point plans are suddenly scuttled.

On second thought, um, CCV is the worst! Everyone stay back, stay away!
 
That CCV expires when we will have flying cars and rockets that get you from LA to Auckland in 35 min but has a point chart that matches the older resorts……. And if that’s not it I’m adding that to the madness ;)

Oh man, I'd LOVE to go from LA to Auckland in 35 minutes!

@VGCgroupie, do you write for BuzzFeed, perchance?
 
WL didn't give me the feels like BW did, it did have me an awe of its grandeur but no feels. DH was just saying how this is basically VGC the whole time.

I’m finding that my resort ranking ebbs and flows during certain seasons. BW is my 1st love - no question - but CCV during the holidays is next level. I honestly don’t think any other resort comes close (sorry, VGF).

But then when I’ve stayed at CCV outside of December - while it’s still magical - I find myself wishing I was at BWV (and even RIV!)
 
is CCV more popular and more expensive solely due to BRV 2042 expiration?
Partially because of the expiration date. Also, affected by the popularity of studio. CCV has a good point chart but not many studios. You need home resort to get them during peak seasons.
BLT resort view studios are hard. but there are 103 preferred view studios. Though you pay more points, it’s not as hard to get 7 month
 
Partially because of the expiration date. Also, affected by the popularity of studio. CCV has a good point chart but not many studios. You need home resort to get them during peak seasons.
BLT resort view studios are hard. but there are 103 preferred view studios. Though you pay more points, it’s not as hard to get 7 month
This makes a lot of sense.
 
Speaking of point charts and CCV, this is part of why I think CCV is a hidden gem. Its point chart practically matches BRV as a 2042 resort, but it gets 26 more years and can be had for $120-130/point. Points are cheap and you don't need massive stacks for high cost charts.

I also love the simplicity of no separate view categories at CCV (same as something I appreciate about BCV), so it's just one easy point chart to follow and not a situation where all the "value/cheap" categories get booked up and your carefully calculated point plans are suddenly scuttled.

On second thought, um, CCV is the worst! Everyone stay back, stay away!


That CCV expires when we will have flying cars and rockets that get you from LA to Auckland in 35 min but has a point chart that matches the older resorts……. And if that’s not it I’m adding that to the madness ;)

Okay this is a pretty great thing for CCV and I can see huge value in it. TBH I never payed close attention to point charts and how much they vary.


What I found that I had no idea about was you are paying the same points for Boardwalk view and Pool/Garden view. I’m sure that is not news to everyone but I had to triple check that I was seeing things correctly. My mind is blown.
 
Geez was in the middle of showing renderings of Lakeshore Lodge to my husband and since I used his iPad he is now on webex answering work messages 🤨
 















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